RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Animal said: This looks about over excepts got some table scraps. qpf seems much less that modeled. melted down 5.5 of snow from earlier was 0.49 liquid. will pull remainder in the morning. We failed at the WAA thump( the more north peeps did anyway). We failed at qpf. We failed and got a quick sleet change. We look to fail with the second half now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said: The 8:34 pm PNS lists 5.7 at PHL - https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/getprod.php?new&prod=XXXPNSPHI&wfo=phi ETA - am guessing that is including IP. Cool. Thanks....under performer? What were you guys expecting there? Still a good start to the winter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Philly International at 5.7" beat me That's unpossible. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Back to snow here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Cool. Thanks....under performer? What were you guys expecting there? Still a good start to the winter... I think most of the calls for the city was 3" - 6" so it fell within that (assuming the wrap-around is minor. I think the models depicted the rain/snow line pretty well but the devil was in the sleet details (although as we got closer to the event, it was evident that there would be a good amount of sleet). I got about 5.3" of snow in IMBY before the sleetfest. Will have to see if I can core some tomorrow to approximate the sleet amounts before the ZR came (assuming it didn't completely soak through). I was going to practice getting a ratio (bought a Stratus gauge over the summer to try out). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedSky said: Philly International at 5.7" beat me That's unpossible. I'm guessing that is including sleet (it's an ASOS reading) since they would have changed over way before the rest of us in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Hurricane Agnes said: I think most of the calls for the city was 3" - 6" so it fell within that (assuming the wrap-around is minor. I think the models depicted the rain/snow line pretty well but the devil was in the sleet details (although as we got closer to the event, it was evident that there would be a good amount of sleet). I got about 5.3" of snow in IMBY before the sleetfest. Will have to see if I can core some tomorrow to approximate the sleet amounts before the ZR came (assuming it didn't completely soak through). I was going to practice getting a ratio (bought a Stratus gauge over the summer to try out). Nice...high end of the forecast. That sleet really helps retention, which is key as the holidays approach....lowest sun angle helps, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Very pleased with this one. Mid-December and a very traditional winter storm around these parts...thump, mix, slot....maybe a few flakes to wrap things up later. We usually see 2 or 3 of these on avg every season. Im fine with having one under our belts before the solstice. We're on the board and on our way! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Nice...high end of the forecast. That sleet really helps retention, which is key as the holidays approach....lowest sun angle helps, too. Well I doubled in one storm, what I had all last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Very pleased with this one. Mid-December and a very traditional winter storm around these parts...thump, mix, slot....maybe a few flakes to wrap things up later. We usually see 2 or 3 of these on avg every season. Im fine with having one under our belts before the solstice. We're on the board and on our way! Tough to complain about that in a healthy la nina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Hurricane Agnes said: Well I doubled in one storm, what I had all last season. I have outside shot at having my seasonal total from last year, after this storm.....pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Cool. Thanks....under performer? What were you guys expecting there? Still a good start to the winter... It's a 50% bust for the north people, the south did about what expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenCtyWx Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 We'll just have to see if round 2 transpires. I honestly have no idea at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Very pleased with this one. Mid-December and a very traditional winter storm around these parts...thump, mix, slot....maybe a few flakes to wrap things up later. We usually see 2 or 3 of these on avg every season. Im fine with having one under our belts before the solstice. We're on the board and on our way! How can you be pleased with a storm that spit out only half the expected Qpf of every model on the planet? If I was younger I would be doing the Clark Griswold rant but I tired. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, WarrenCtyWx said: We'll just have to see if round 2 transpires. I honestly have no idea at this point. There's a band of snow back around Harrisburg but am not sure if that will warm as it moves east or what. There is a little battle going on between the "relatively" warm rain line and the "cold" ZR/sleet line that caused some convective cells to briefly fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Anybody hear from Wentzadelphia and would he have done better at Philly International lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Snow/sleet going on. The plowed roads turning white again... 25F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, RedSky said: Anybody hear from Wentzadelphia and would he have done better at Philly International lmao Kathy Orr has Qtown at 8"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyGeekGirl Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Can someone tell me if the overnight forecast for PHL and just across the river into NJ has changed significantly in the last 2 hours? I've got one browser tab (accuweather) telling me the overnight high is 35 and it'll be snowing from 1-6am. Weather.com is steadfast that it will go up to 41 and be raining from 10pm till 3am. Then snow from 4-6am. Mount Holly at weather.gov is saying sleet then rain. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 And I peeped out at a light and the snow is back. Cracked the door open and could hardly budge it due to the winds. Getting a snow/sleet mix at the moment that is really blowing around. Temp is still 27 w/dp 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Birds~69 said: Kathy Orr has Qtown at 8"... Kathy is smoking the good stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Back to sleet here, cool. Temp. dropped a degree to 30F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, RedSky said: Kathy is smoking the good stuff. Your ruler may be malfunctioning... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedSky said: Anybody hear from Wentzadelphia and would he have done better at Philly International lmao You do know you likely will see another 3” in Quakertown yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, RedSky said: How can you be pleased with a storm that spit out only half the expected Qpf of every model on the planet? If I was younger I would be doing the Clark Griswold rant but I tired. I keep expectations in check especially when being bullseyed at 5+ days out and this early in the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedSky said: Kathy is smoking the good stuff. 8 inches is reported in the mt holly public info statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Animal said: 8 inches is reported in the mt holly public info statement That's fine but I got 5.5" I'm several miles north, and Hellertown to the NE is similar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, hazwoper said: You do know you likely will see another 3” in Quakertown yes? Did you see the NAM and the radar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathernut85 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Ripping sleet here, my skylights are ping ping pinging. I suppose it's nice to see the column getting colder again to support IP > ZR in WNW Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedSky said: Did you see the NAM and the radar HRRR gives you 3”. And yes I have seen the radar and the massive building returns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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