mappy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, baltosquid said: Oh I don't think you actually said anything to really gripe about but I do think overall there's a lot of grumbling from many after last winter's disaster; more what I'm getting at. No, I don't think anyone said anything worth griping over. Its the NAM. But I totally get everyone is on edge and wants snow. Last winter was horrible for everyone. Some are a little more testy than others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltosquid Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Anyway, about new data, ICON took a jump East and is now putting the low out of the bay. A bit better but still some heavy rain after the initial snow so far. No backend frames yet. Not significant temperature change at the surface from what I can see, maybe a slight tick warmer. Don't have higher level stuff on TT. Edit: Nothing on the backend for anyone. Anomalously poor showing for snow in the NW compared to other models today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, ers-wxman1 said: It’s not gospel, it’s indicative of the evolution of the pattern. The model is not worthless beyond 48 hours. I happen to work with the hard working employees that spend millions to make these models run year round, that dedicate their lives to making NWP better and people just trash them like it’s a wind up toy. I may be wrong here but i thought the NAM hasn't been updated since 2017 and is being retired in the next 3 or 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 My public apologies to @ers-wxman1. My post was out of line, shouldn’t have been made, and any comments I had should have been made in private. I’m sorry for the post and have communicated to him that we value his contributions. 8 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thanatos_I_Am said: Cranky was such a great follow on Twitter. Could make any boring day interesting meteorologically. You ever hear why he’s stopped? No idea. He was incredibly detailed. What he did had to be crazy time-consuming, so maybe he just stopped because of the time involved when he obviously wasn't making money off of it. Or maybe he got tired of the critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, ravensrule said: Just for your information JI is a real meteorologist. In fact if you put a gun to my head and asked who is better him or Wes i may have to go with JI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hey, at least we have the lowest sun angle of the year we're working with. We wouldn't need to read 650 posts about March sun. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, nj2va said: Hey, at least we have the lowest sun angle of the year we're working with. We wouldn't need to read 650 posts about March sun. I wonder how much that influences outcomes or is it more just a matter of day versus night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 rgem looks like a hold. maybe even slightly better than 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Yeoman said: What does spoons have to say? worst couple ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltosquid Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, 87storms said: rgem looks like a hold. maybe even slightly better than 12z. Would be better if not for some stubborn warmth at the 850 level that pauses snowfall in most of central MD (particularly around I95) that brings down the totals quite a bit there. Hopefully, a pocket like that is something that can change. Though the Nam kinda had a similar pocket too. Though it is a meso at long range, so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraff Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 To infinity and beyond! Let’s roll happy hour GooFuS! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, baltosquid said: Would be better if not for some stubborn warmth at the 850 level that pauses snowfall in most of central MD (particularly around I95) that brings down the totals quite a bit there. Hopefully, a pocket like that is something that can change. Though the Nam kinda had a similar pocket too. Though it is a meso at long range, so we'll see. yea, looked a little better at the beginning for the cities. it's a good thing we still have a day of modeling because all it's gonna take is a minor shift east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowchaser Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Anyone wanna take a guess how much I’m going to get in Snowshoe WV at an elevation of 3,200 feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraff Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I’m out. Hour 6 on the GFS is a disaster. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGolfBro Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Scraff said: I’m out. Hour 6 on the GFS is a disaster. You could see it early LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukeblue219 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, nj2va said: Hey, at least we have the lowest sun angle of the year we're working with. We wouldn't need to read 650 posts about March sun. Or 10 posts about March sun and 640 posts joking about posts about March sun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, ers-wxman1 said: This is ridiculousness! I think their being harsh but I noticed your not really predicting anything much different then most but it’s the tone. Instead of focusing on a he positives for the parts of the region that get snow you are focused more on the fail aspects. I get crap for that too sometimes. No one likes to hear depressing news. Even if they know it’s true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, baltosquid said: Would be better if not for some stubborn warmth at the 850 level that pauses snowfall in most of central MD (particularly around I95) that brings down the totals quite a bit there. Hopefully, a pocket like that is something that can change. Though the Nam kinda had a similar pocket too. Though it is a meso at long range, so we'll see. Also didn't help the low was almost to the coast in NC and then jumped back slightly NW into Virginia. Models are having problems with low placement and it's messing up the snow/mix/rain lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 GFS first flakes out this way at 15Z 48 snow for everyone. 850 just south of Woodbridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardmeiser Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, dukeblue219 said: Or 10 posts about March sun and 640 posts joking about posts about March sun. Sun is already setting later. We are toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraff Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I’m feeling a semi-nuke coming... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, psuhoffman said: I think their being harsh but I noticed your not really predicting anything much different then most but it’s the tone. Instead of focusing on a he positives for the parts of the region that get snow you are focused more on the fail aspects. I get crap for that too sometimes. No one likes to hear depressing news. Even if they know it’s true. I appreciate anyone with knowledge and their opinions, especially a met. I think it's awesome they are on this board. I think the thing bothering most is that his educated opinions are presented as facts that are a 100% lock. If he just presented his opinions and showed why he thinks this or that will happen, it would come off differently. It's definitely the tone and way it is presented. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2mb stronger low at hr48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Its warmer this run for sure. Looks more like the NAM than the Euro. 57 LP over OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 GFS is caving. It's warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Some ccb love for MD at 63. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scraff said: I’m feeling a semi-nuke coming... The blast from a nuclear weapon is definitely warm. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Since it seems to be the afternoon for apologies on this board, perhaps one needs to be made to the NAM...... 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCAlexandria Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 goodbye cruel weenie world, rain for all 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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