HoarfrostHubb Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Pete B defended Ray’s measurement on the air in that one, lol. That’s the one endorsement I wouldn’t want. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Lets see if the eps is too amped like usual When has it been established the eps tends to be amped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I don't the performance in the tropics is particularly relevent....especially since ECMWF has stated that they have focused on the mid latitudes at the expense of the tropics with respect to recent upgrades. It isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: That’s the one endorsement I wouldn’t want. Lol It was actually a good defense by him...he said something like “that measurement in Wilmington is old school. The spotters have recently been advised to not clear every 6 hours but the top airport sites still do. The measurement is just like you’d see at an airport.” Im paraphrasing there but he basically was talking about how it was kind of arbitrary that spotter and coop measurements all of the sudden shouldn’t clear every 6 hours. Now advised just to take peak depth on the snowboard in a 24 hour period. You can clear after 24h. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I don’t follow Judah (prob should). Fisher is great for his mix of good meteorology, weenieism, and fun times. Very approachable A bunch of New England TV Mets are. Barry B was great. I love public figures that remain relatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: I love public figures that remain relatable. It’s why we big fans of @CT Rain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Pete B defended Ray’s measurement on the air in that one, lol. Missed that, too....glad to see some reputable mets actually considered my point, as opposed to blindly dismissing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It was actually a good defense by him...he said something like “that measurement in Wilmington is old school. The spotters have recently been advised to not clear every 6 hours but the top airport sites still do. The measurement is just like you’d see at an airport.” Im paraphrasing there but he basically was talking about how it was kind of arbitrary that spotter and coop measurements all of the sudden shouldn’t clear every 6 hours. Now advised just to take peak depth on the snowboard in a 24 hour period. You can clear after 24h. So what is the ‘official’ way to measure now...are we still 6hr/clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: It’s why we big fans of @CT Rain Yea, Ryan, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 If you think about, DPW crews and private contractors, which represent the majority of clientele for snowfall forecasts, want to know how much snow is going to fall from the sky. That is what they are going to have to plow, not the settled depth 1-2 days later. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, Ryan, too. And Cindy FItzgibbon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: So what is the ‘official’ way to measure now...are we still 6hr/clear? Only acceptable at a first order site now. Spotter/coop is your max depth during the storm unless it’s longer than 24h then you can clear. I think that’s what it is now...I feel like it changes a lot, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: And Cindy FItzgibbon I haven't really interacted with her much....my twitter clique usually consists of Fisher, Judah and a bunch of other national mets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Only acceptable at a first order site now. Spotter/coop is your max depth during the storm unless it’s longer than 24h then you can clear. I think that’s what it is now...I feel like it changes a lot, lol. I'm doing 6 hour sweep bc that is what makes sense to me. If enlightening someone with my settled depth arouses them, I'll be more than happy to make their day by adding that, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I haven't really interacted with her much....my twitter clique usually consists of Fisher, Judah and a bunch of other national mets. Who is Judah lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, DotRat_Wx said: Who is Judah lol Judah Cohen....the polar vortex guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Judah Cohen....the polar vortex guy It’s the season of Judah Maccabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 " Hold on....let that 1' on rt 128 settle for a day or so, I bet we'll only have to plow 10"....lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Small events I usually just measure at the end but the big events, I’m sticking with the 6hr/clear process. In heavy rates I’ll sometimes measure every hour but won’t clear just to get a better indication of intensity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Small events I usually just measure at the end but the big events, I’m sticking with the 6hr/clear process. In heavy rates I’ll sometimes measure every hour but won’t clear just to get a better indication of intensity. TBH, I think I do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I'm doing 6 hour sweep bc that is what makes sense to me. If enlightening someone with my settled depth arouses them, I'll be more than happy to make their day by adding that, though. Given the new recommendations, I think if you go with the old way , That you should also def post max depth like a default two measurement report. It would minimize the disbelief from the drastic differences we can see from a drawn out storm that involves fluff. I mean obviously going old school would cause measurements to stick out . I don’t really care that much but I just imagine the amount of back and forth that could be eliminated lol I would imagine the difference could approach 30% in some Long drawn out biggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Given the new recommendations, I think if you go with the old way , That you should also def post max depth . It would minimize the disbelief from the drastic differences we can see from a drawn out storm that involves fluff. I mean obviously going old school would cause measurements to stick out . I don’t really care that much but I just imagine the amount of back and forth that could be eliminated lol I would imagine the difference could approach 30% in some Long drawn out biggies I def. volunteered that my max depth was 25" in that March 2018 event....I remember because I made a comment that it made sense that the spotter reported a storm total snowfall of 25". He stuck the ruler in the ground after dinner at the end of the day...I know I pointed that out. I know the spotter....we are connected on social media at this point, and that is exactly what he did. He is an elementary school teacher....good dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The 50:1 shit that doesn’t accumulate unless you clear every 6 hrs would drive me nuts. Great to ski in, but at least with my wind blown snow, I know it’s not pancaking in half after I eat dinner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBeard Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 NAM is reasonable for Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, PowderBeard said: NAM is reasonable for Monday. Ya? Enlighten us a tad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBeard Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, WinterWolf said: Ya? Enlighten us a tad? Similar to the more conservative runs of previous models earlier and not a complete whiff like the EURO and Uncle. Widespread 1-3". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ya? Enlighten us a tad? To quote Kevin, nothingburger. At least within 20 miles of the ocean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ya? Enlighten us a tad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PowderBeard said: Similar to the more conservative runs of previous models earlier and not a complete whiff like the EURO and Uncle. Widespread 1-3". 12z was better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, PowderBeard said: Similar to the more conservative runs of previous models earlier and not a complete whiff like the EURO and Uncle. Widespread 1-3". 1 minute ago, ineedsnow said: Thank you gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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