powderfreak Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: It takes some stones to forecast a significant period of 3:1 or worse ratio. Ha yeah that's true. It would be funny to see that in the grids. Heavy snow with new precipitation amounts of 0.75-1.00" and total snowfall of 1-3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1.0” in Southington, CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Eustis, ME. 22, flurries, final total 13” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deck Pic said: Eustis, ME. 22, flurries, final total 13” Any deck pics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deck Pic said: Eustis, ME. 22, flurries, final total 13” Nice to see you 2 made the trip for this. Hope all is well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Heh. Yes. Will post later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, MBRI said: 12" in Rangeley My future home up there one day. I love that part of Maine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 0.5” in Scarborough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: It takes some stones to forecast a significant period of 3:1 or worse ratio. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 hours ago, The 4 Seasons said: anyone got CT final snow reports send em may way, ty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Looks like Randolph is the highest total in New England on CoCoRaHS so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, dendrite said: It felt like one of those midday April, brighter overcast deals where it’s melting at the bottom as fast as it’s trying to accumulate on the top. These were like sleet ratios or even worse. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: 1.0” in Southington, CT Yea. My T-2” for us worker out well. I didn’t believe any of the zonked guidance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 11.5" final. Genny chugging along 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1.5" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 0.0” final. 0.0” season to date. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Just shy of 11.5” depth at 1365’ @ Miller state park 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 12 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: When everyone was flipping to snow ahead of schedule I thought it was going to be a positive bust...LOL. Shows how quickly things can change. I was sure that the 128 belt was gonna get rocked. They were changing over around 2pm and it looked excellent for hours...but they just never mustered the intensity after the flip. The low level temps were a problem but I’m still surprised. I guess maybe the lift wasn’t quite lining up perfectly in DGZ which really helps in marginal setups. You need everything to go right...esp at lower elevations and perhaps that was the one ingredient missing in an otherwise perfect opportunity to overcome the marginal near-sfc layer. Trying to dive deep to figure out what the real failure point was here, because I don't really think it was forcing. The QPF was pretty good, right ballpark anyway, clearly there was strong f-gen in the right location relative to the storm. I keep coming back to our 00z sounding last night with DGZ up around 500 mb. That's not a great spot and indicative of a pretty torched air mass. Dropping less than dendrite ratios into a deep near freezing layer primed snow to melt at the surface. Even when rates were decent. There was a lot of 1/2 to 3/4SM snowfall that normally would accumulate if your flakes weren't already near slush by the time they reach the ground. Honestly the 04.12z NAM forecast soundings weren't bad in the vicinity of GYX, and it should've been a bigger red flag to me. We were running with ratios around 7:1, but they needed to be lower than that given the environment we were working with. Elevations did better because it shrunk the near freezing layer that flakes had to fall through and kept near surface temps slightly cooler. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Trying to dive deep to figure out what the real failure point was here, because I don't really think it was forcing. The QPF was pretty good, right ballpark anyway, clearly there was strong f-gen in the right location relative to the storm. I keep coming back to our 00z sounding last night with DGZ up around 500 mb. That's not a great spot and indicative of a pretty torched air mass. Dropping less than dendrite ratios into a deep near freezing layer primed snow to melt at the surface. Even when rates were decent. There was a lot of 1/2 to 3/4SM snowfall that normally would accumulate if your flakes weren't already near slush by the time they reach the ground. Honestly the 04.12z NAM forecast soundings weren't bad in the vicinity of GYX, and it should've been a bigger red flag to me. We were running with ratios around 7:1, but they needed to be lower than that given the environment we were working with. Elevations did better because it shrunk the near freezing layer that flakes had to fall through and kept near surface temps slightly cooler. That’s a good point about dropping flakes in a near 32 layer that is thousands of feet thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Thank goodness I’m not the first person up this toll road . Able to make a decent pace up. Skier went by a few mins ago lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 0.5” in ScarboroughReally? I thought they were frcsting 5" or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Just now, Lava Rock said: 37 minutes ago, PWMan said: 0.5” in Scarborough Really? I thought they were frcsting 5" or so This storm was impossible to forecast in CP of Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Lava Rock said: 37 minutes ago, PWMan said: 0.5” in Scarborough Really? I thought they were frcsting 5" or so And I ended up with 2.9" It was probably more, but I was fast asleep when the snow ended and the board was a wind blown/compacted 0.4" after my 2.5" midnight ob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Thank goodness I’m not the first person up this toll road . Able to make a decent pace up. Skier went by a few mins ago lol Drive and post safely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Trying to dive deep to figure out what the real failure point was here, because I don't really think it was forcing. The QPF was pretty good, right ballpark anyway, clearly there was strong f-gen in the right location relative to the storm. I keep coming back to our 00z sounding last night with DGZ up around 500 mb. That's not a great spot and indicative of a pretty torched air mass. Dropping less than dendrite ratios into a deep near freezing layer primed snow to melt at the surface. Even when rates were decent. There was a lot of 1/2 to 3/4SM snowfall that normally would accumulate if your flakes weren't already near slush by the time they reach the ground. Honestly the 04.12z NAM forecast soundings weren't bad in the vicinity of GYX, and it should've been a bigger red flag to me. We were running with ratios around 7:1, but they needed to be lower than that given the environment we were working with. Elevations did better because it shrunk the near freezing layer that flakes had to fall through and kept near surface temps slightly cooler. Yea when I flipped and started accumulating fast I thought for sure 12 was a distinct possibility. This quieted my appetite, but I’m already craving more! Thankfully it’s December and not late Feb. Any 12+ potential and I’m on the road these days, gotta enjoy my 30s no regrets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, MarkO said: <400' I'm dumb.. Location:Thornton, NH 1100' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Drive and post safely. Posting on the toll road looks up as he read ends the park ranger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, OceanStWx said: It takes some stones to forecast a significant period of 3:1 or worse ratio. I had a general 3-5" in my Portland/Augusta/Bangor forecast when I left on Friday, but given what the NWS and folks on the board were discussing, I was really worried I was going to bust low. I'm glad there was such a struggle in that regard. Lack of drier dewpoint advection and strong lift but in the wrong spot kinda makes sense to me. Given the lack of good antecedent airmass, there's more bust potential if things don't align. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Some upslope moving in now. 20 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: This storm was impossible to forecast in CP of Maine We’re about 1/2 mile from the ocean. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s more west of Route 1. Good discussion earlier about the torched layer and how it likely inhibited accumulation even with decent intensity. When we started to flip around noon I figured we were primed for a thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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