December 5-6, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast

[TalcottWx]

Phin's location is a great addition to the board. We all know it snows a ton there, but it's an opportunity to learn more about that area. I don't know as much as I would like. 

[Baroclinic Zone]

2.36” total QPF

1/4” snow

Peak wind 41mph

[moneypitmike]

Anyone who scored the most and how much from this?  I'm guessing it was Jeff.

[The 4 Seasons]

21 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=BOX&product=PNS&issuedby=BOX

thanks i know about all the PNS statements thats one of the resources i always use to make a verification map. I always ask here though because about half either dont report or dont make it to the PNS statement, plus i want to make sure its the latest updated amount. Sometimes they have slightly older numbers and not the final amount in the PNS. I'm assuming the 6.0" was yours from Tolland. That is the final right?

Looks like the highest in CT was from Union at 10"

Trace here.

[ORH_wxman]

Just now, moneypitmike said:

Anyone who scored the most and how much from this?  I'm guessing it was Jeff.

Phineas prob has 16-18? Could be more...Alex in the other side of the mountains looked like he did pretty well too though prob a bit less. 

Our N ORH county posters had 10-12...I measured just shy of 10” on winter hill on the north side of ORH. Back in Holliston we had about 4 inches of the densest/wettest snow I’ve seen. 

Randy/Zwyts chasing in eustis Maine prob had over a foot. 

[tamarack]

Had 1.5" of 9:1 snow (almost powder ) overnight, so storm total is 6.0" with 1.38" LE, plus the 0.10" RA at the start.  Oddly there's more in the driveway, 5"+, than at the stake, 4".  No drifting at all, just chunks blowing out of the trees which didn't impact either spot.

[Lava Rock]

Anyone who scored the most and how much from this?  I'm guessing it was Jeff.

Quick measurement 11" here. New genny works awesome. Only used 3.5gal gas over 13.5hrs. Honda ftw.

[HoarfrostHubb]

29 minutes ago, It's Always Sunny said:

Waking up to snow totals this morning . Hoping NWS updates these and we see some increased totals.

Yeah. I reported several updates and they still have my 3PM amount

[HoarfrostHubb]

14 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Anyone who scored the most and how much from this?  I'm guessing it was Jeff.

Prob Phin.  I did see a 12.5” report from Paxton MA which was prob the most in SNE

[HoarfrostHubb]

BOX tweeted out they were looking for final totals

Rutland Ma reported 10”.  Someone about a mile from me measured 10” here in the Hubb but I’m sticking with my 8.5

[CoastalWx]

Must look dam wintry if you have more than 8” of this snow. Congrats who got that. Should stick around for a little while.

[MBRI]

12"  in Rangeley

[STILL N OF PIKE]

Having my coffee prior to Heading west to Miller State Park.  Got coffee, Hiking clothes, and a ruler. LMAO. I look normal. Should be there by 9am. Lets see how high i can get as the base probably did well but ratio's probably increased with elevation.

[HoarfrostHubb]

My backyard a little while ago

[HoarfrostHubb]

Our son is working the lifts at WaWa. They were supposed to open at 7:30 but delays due to icing issues etc

[Damage In Tolland]

25 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

thanks i know about all the PNS statements thats one of the resources i always use to make a verification map. I always ask here though because about half either dont report or dont make it to the PNS statement, plus i want to make sure its the latest updated amount. Sometimes they have slightly older numbers and not the final amount in the PNS. I'm assuming the 6.0" was yours from Tolland. That is the final right?

Looks like the highest in CT was from Union at 10"

Trace here.

Yeah. 800 feet and above had 6” in town. There was 3-4 under 650’

[Hambone]

Maybe 3-4" of paste.... 32F.   Frozen solid this AM.  White rain fell all day... marginal temps... never got below 32.

[powderfreak]

Sugarloaf posted this for the morning photo...

Prob the best shot I’ve seen so far from this one.

[Great Snow 1717]

59 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

Is it my imagination or is that happening more often lately with storms?

It's not your imagination at all.

[The 4 Seasons]

2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Sugarloaf posted this for the morning photo...

That's this storm? Looks like arctic powder and a lot of it.

[mahk_webstah]

2 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

It's not your imagination at all.

Is there any data to support this?  Maybe Tip has an idea.

[powderfreak]

2 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

That's this storm? Looks like arctic powder and a lot of it.

It really cooled off.  You can tell it was paste at some point by how it’s stuck to the cars.  Arctic pow and that wind the cars are probably cleaned off lol.  Perfect right side up snowfall for the skiers up there.

[CoastalWx]

1 hour ago, mahk_webstah said:

Is it my imagination or is that happening more often lately with storms?

It can happen with a marginal airmass. I think many said it has big bust potential. 

[Damage In Tolland]

It really does the wonders for the soul and psyche to have snow during the holiday season. A rare snowy December morning . I know it’s gone by next weekend so will cherish while we have it.

[OceanStWx]

8 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

Did you have many reports from elevations or are those generally sparse ?

 Seems many in Maine Got tons of liquid but Missed warning snows by being about 500 feet Too low elevation . Just wondering what someone with another 500-800” elevation would have seen In interior SW Maine .

We were trying to tease out elevation from people when they called, but there aren't many people like Gene who know their elevation and all their neighbors elevations too. 

But I think it's clear that played a big role when you look at our office total vs up on Lava Rock. 

[mahk_webstah]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

It can happen with a marginal airmass. I think many said it has big bust potential. 

You’re missing my larger question.  I don’t know the model verification scores on specific storms but it seems busts are more frequent last couple.  I realize it could be some sort of bias at play but it seems it’s been a bustorama latelu

[CoastalWx]

8 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

You’re missing my larger question.  I don’t know the model verification scores on specific storms but it seems busts are more frequent last couple.  I realize it could be some sort of bias at play but it seems it’s been a bustorama latelu

I think it’s recent confirmation bias. Maybe you are referring to marginal event busts? 
 

I wonder if you guys were sucking exhaust maybe? It seemed like anybody downwind of high terrain didn’t do well. I saw the signal at Winni and purposely did not go there. I knew it would suck there despite my son begging me lol. Being downwind of high terrain in a marginal airmass can suck.

[OceanStWx]

9 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

You’re missing my larger question.  I don’t know the model verification scores on specific storms but it seems busts are more frequent last couple.  I realize it could be some sort of bias at play but it seems it’s been a bustorama latelu

Well I think a problem is that clown maps (especially these realistic looking ones) are a relatively new feature. Because of how they are generated, you rarely end up seeing more snow than they spit out. 

[CoastalWx]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

Well I think a problem is that clown maps (especially these realistic looking ones) are a relatively new feature. Because of how they are generated, you rarely end up seeing more snow than they spit out. 

Too many get sucked in. 

[powderfreak]

3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

Well I think a problem is that clown maps (especially these realistic looking ones) are a relatively new feature. Because of how they are generated, you rarely end up seeing more snow than they spit out. 

I feel like we take the over on those too in a cold atmosphere... “ratios will be better than 10:1 so take the over on the snow maps”.

I just think they in general show too wide a swath of heavy snows in almost every storm too... large swaths of heavy snow often tighten up in reality.