December 5-6, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast

[PhineasC]

2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Thank you.  :-).  
 

Hope you reach 20” with this...knock it out of the park dammit!!  

It's been piling up faster than I can recall ever seeing. Every time I walk out there it's another inch or two it seems. It's gotta be 13-15 at least now. Also blowing into huge drifts now.

[Snowcrazed71]

 would love to see some pics. We missed out on the big stuff here. 2" here ( I guess that's better than zero as some poeple got Zippo )

[WinterWolf]

3 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

It's been piling up faster than I can recall ever seeing. Every time I walk out there it's another inch or two it seems. It's gotta be 13-15 at least now. Also blowing into huge drifts now.

Ahhh man, I hope we can score a big event like what you’re getting tonight this winter? 
 

I told you a few days ago...just be patient and it’ll happen.  And here you are crushing it!

Enjoy. 
 

 

[PhineasC]

I should have bought a yardstick.

[WinterWolf]

4 minutes ago, Deck Pic said:

I'll be there for a week starting tomorrow - St. Agatha

Yup...that’s where I rent a cabin for the winter.  Right on 162..facing long lake!  Gorgeous area. 

[Lava Rock]

More wood on stove.

[Fozz]

41 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

It's been piling up faster than I can recall ever seeing. Every time I walk out there it's another inch or two it seems. It's gotta be 13-15 at least now. Also blowing into huge drifts now.

Better than Feb 5, 2010?

[PhineasC]

1 minute ago, Fozz said:

Better than Feb 5, 2010?

I have a poor memory for such things, but it seems to be faster in this event. In fact, I have spent some time this evening envisioning how I reached nearly 3 feet in some of those MD HECS, because this New England snow with the bands rotating "backwards" off the ocean into my backyard has been something else entirely. I think it is a duration difference between those events. 

[PhineasC]

I have heavily-laden trees swinging wildly here. My power line coming to the barn and then underground to my house is holding strong. It's kind of amazing. My power in MD would have been out by now. Eversource FTW here.

[PhineasC]

Still snowing really hard here.

[psuhoffman]

7 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

I have a poor memory for such things, but it seems to be faster in this event. In fact, I have spent some time this evening envisioning how I reached nearly 3 feet in some of those MD HECS, because this New England snow with the bands rotating "backwards" off the ocean into my backyard has been something else entirely. I think it is a duration difference between those events. 

We can get intense CCB banding down in MD too but it’s less frequent getting a storm to amplify enough that far south.  Plus we can get some pretty good WAA front end thumps too if there is a deep cold layer dammed in.  Obviously it happens way more frequently in New England. 

[psuhoffman]

3 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Still snowing really hard here.

Told ya the dry slot wouldn’t make it to you. That band will start to dissipate over the next couple hours but upslope flow could keep you going for a while. 

[bobbutts]

16 hours ago, MarkO said:

Completely legal.

How did you manage that?

[TheMainer]

Observation from a friend in Guilford , ME that they're over a foot now and that "snowmobile trail work this fall was probably a waste of time" haha. Gonna burn through 3 gallons in the chainsaw tomorrow....

[MarkO]

2 hours ago, bobbutts said:

How did you manage that?

<400'

[The 4 Seasons]

anyone got CT final snow reports send em may way, ty

 

[MarkO]

Maaaaaybe 2" in Thornton, nothing from the front end and looks like a max of maybe 2.5" in Lowell based on webcam.

[Great Snow 1717]

A totally underwhelming event in the Merrimack Valley area. The Boston TV mets and NWS busted badly in the area. .....and as been the case with  the last several winters the next "warm" up is already in sight. 

[mahk_webstah]

7 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

This storm was an embarrassment. To have 2 inches by 145 pm and wind up with 3 inches total is just against all intelligent thought given where this was heading via modeling and forecasts at that point.  We flipped by 1045 in Nashua..ahead of schedule....forecast for 6 plus and looked to be over performer and we just had a combo of shiat lift after 4pm and garbage temps.

Is it my imagination or is that happening more often lately with storms?

[Whineminster]

If I measured every 6 hours I definitely would have had a foot.  About 10" OTG

[Damage In Tolland]

30 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

anyone got CT final snow reports send em may way, ty

 

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=BOX&product=PNS&issuedby=BOX

[amarshall]

Thought maybe we'd see a coating waking up. 0" Duxbury

[It's Always Sunny]

Waking up to snow totals this morning . Hoping NWS updates these and we see some increased totals.

[JC-CT]

7 hours ago, PhineasC said:

About 50 people or so live up on the hill where I am.

300 some in Randolph total. It's a very sparse area.

If you want this lifestyle, just do it, is my advice. Most people here are working class salt-of-the earth types. They are not high-rollers and most of the homes in Randolph are very modest. I live in basically the largest compound in the town. This entire area is very blue collar which was a big part of the draw for me. I love the people here and in Gorham/Berlin/Milan. Honest, hardworking people.

There are honest, hardworking people everywhere.

[alex]

It snowed 

 

 

[MarkO]

I guess Bretton Woods is where I'm going. 

2 minutes ago, alex said:

It snowed 

 

 

I guess I'll be hitting Bretton Woods. Supposedly 10-12" on the mountain. Totally skunked in Thornton. Did you accumulate yesterday afternoon at all?

[alex]

Just now, MarkO said:

I guess Bretton Woods is where I'm going. 

I guess I'll be hitting Bretton Woods. Supposedly 10-12" on the mountain. Totally skunked in Thornton. Did you accumulate yesterday afternoon at all?

Bretton Woods? We started accumulating around 1 pm or so - although it was very light for the first couple of hours

[dendrite]

Hooksett damage

Northfield damage

 

Other than the cable line, nbd here. I saved the bamboo and birches with frequent shaking. The birches will hopefully recover. As for my parents, at least they’ll get more sun. 

[MarkO]

Just now, alex said:

Bretton Woods? We started accumulating around 1 pm or so - although it was very light for the first couple of hours

Yeah, Cannon still isn't open, and I assume Waterville will be on wind hold. 

[CoastalWx]

7 hours ago, wxsniss said:

Thank you for that. That is so refreshing.

Only the best here, including you, Walt, and some others, are confident enough to admit when they were wrong and understand why.

Attributing incorrect forecasts to weenie maps across the board is a tiresome narrative. Career NWS mets, actually putting up concrete maps, and to an audience of hundreds of thousands, got this and other storms wrong, and it's not because they were rip-reading weatherbell maps.

There were plenty of red flags that we can point to in hindisight. As always, a confluence explains the bust. Last night we actually mentioned that the best omega was well below the DGZ in eastern SNE throughout most of the event --- but maybe we dismissed that as generating poor but not inadequate snowgrowth. We've certainly overcome that in other storms. A stinger never really materialized. We've certainly had past storms overcome marginal airmasses with good dynamics, and maybe this just did not pack enough punch. Not a single person here would have said Northborough would end up with 1.5". Even Lunenberg managed only 6.5" lol.

The weenie maps just don’t take anything important really into consideration. I hate them lol. I thought it would pound in metro west, but it did not. I do think the lift into the DGZ was only confined to a narrow area associated with the higher terrain coincidentally (I think I even said it’s possible this could be a storm that really differs from low elevation to high elevation). Therefore if it doesn’t pound dendrites, it is tough to latent cool to near 32. That’s probably a big reason. If I was on air or a NWS met, I would have busted there for sure. Hell I busted on 1-3 for BOS lol. Congrats on the little one!