LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Close proximity to the Jamaica Bay. even on a north wind, Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Just a comment: Usually when posters here say that they don't want extreme weather "x", I don't believe it, only because I don't believe it when those same words come out of my own mouth. Instinctively we all seem to actually want to see it no matter what we are saying/typing. Even ice storms - I say I don't want it, but when the temperature eventually gets above 32, and it turns to plain 'ol rain, and the ice starts melting off the cars, if I'm being honest I have to admit that I feel a little sad. That's a problem, right? I cant stand severe weather because I've lost extremely expensive equipment over it. That needs to stay in the sparsely populated parts of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, NorthShoreWx said: Northshore Ski Bowl was open for business this afternoon and evening. Backyard skiing with a few inches of powder over a 12" base. I will learn to ski those trees, I will learn to ski those trees, I will learn to ski those trees... those trails look really nice, Ed, I just hope you wear a helmet because you can't ever be too safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: even on a north wind, Don? It was probably enough, as the cold air advection wasn’t quite sufficient to push the mercury below zero. And, the colder air was also passing across a part of the Long Island Sound to the north. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, donsutherland1 said: It was probably enough, as the cold air advection wasn’t quite sufficient to push the mercury below zero. And, the colder air was also passing across a part of the Long Island Sound to the north. wow thats interesting, did LGA make it below zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: Northshore Ski Bowl was open for business this afternoon and evening. Backyard skiing with a few inches of powder over a 12" base. I will learn to ski those trees, I will learn to ski those trees, I will learn to ski those trees... The Target near the New York Ave/Jericho Tpke intersection is the go to sledding area in my immediate backyard. Significant difference in snowpack between the Smithtown and Islip ends of Rt 111 today as you would expect. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow thats interesting, did LGA make it below zero? Yes. It was -3 on January 19, 1994. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I cant stand severe weather because I've lost extremely expensive equipment over it. That needs to stay in the sparsely populated parts of the country. “Severe” weather I experienced on LI is nothing like actual severe weather in Austin that’s for sure. But yes this is essentially a BECS upcoming for snow and cold in TX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes. It was -3 on January 19, 1994. I remember flying in from TX during the Feb 2016 cold snap and absolutely freezing when I got off the plane. It was in the mid 70s when I left and probably single digits at JFK. Coming back up from the south, the cold is hard to get back adjusted to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just a comment: Usually when posters here say that they don't want extreme weather "x", I don't believe it, only because I don't believe it when those same words come out of my own mouth. Instinctively we all seem to actually want to see it no matter what we are saying/typing. Even ice storms - I say I don't want it, but when the temperature eventually gets above 32, and it turns to plain 'ol rain, and the ice starts melting off the cars, if I'm being honest I have to admit that I feel a little sad. That's a problem, right?I love good snowstorms... but I abhor ice and very wet snows that take out power. I’ve lost power in the cold twice: October 2011 snow and March 6, 2018 snow (a foot and a half here)... and the house gets cold, fast. Extreme weather that takes out your power and convenience sucks. End of story.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Wow, even Corpus Christi right on the Gulf is under a winter storm watch for ice and expected low on Mon night of 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Just a comment: Usually when posters here say that they don't want extreme weather "x", I don't believe it, only because I don't believe it when those same words come out of my own mouth. Instinctively we all seem to actually want to see it no matter what we are saying/typing. Even ice storms - I say I don't want it, but when the temperature eventually gets above 32, and it turns to plain 'ol rain, and the ice starts melting off the cars, if I'm being honest I have to admit that I feel a little sad. That's a problem, right? Agree but I'll also admit I've never really seen a damaging ice storm, in nyc it's usually a glaze on trees and colder surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Brian5671 said: WSWatch for Houston. Don't see that much Can a red tagger who does top down forecasting visit the Texas subforum on the mid-West forum. 850 mb just above freezing and surface temps well below would seem to suggest mostly sleet on Euro for Houston, but the saturated level above the warm nose doesn't seem cold enough from what I heard for dendrites, and I am wondering if melted snowflakes required for sleet. Enough QPF to be interesting even as sleet, but an inch of freezing rain would cripple any city, let alone one in the South that is 3 years removed from last freezing rain disaster. (TXDOT pretreated highway overpasses and cloverleaf interchanges with CaCl2 brine solution, but heavy showers not well forecast just before the icing event washed it from the major highway flyovers, or they became skating rinks despite the best efforts). OT- I followed Direct Energy's advice and called my pipes stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, jm1220 said: “Severe” weather I experienced on LI is nothing like actual severe weather in Austin that’s for sure. But yes this is essentially a BECS upcoming for snow and cold in TX. I remember Dec 1989, it wasn't fun lol. Cold and dry for a whole month with a brief break for a rainstorm (busted forecast of 8 inches of snow right up until the event), Dec 1989 avg temp of 25 and then we averaged 40 for both Jan and Feb, can you imagine that? Best event of the year was the 6 inches that fell on Thanksgiving, we had a grand total of 4 inches after that for the rest of the season and barely made it to 10 inches total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Did you see the PBS series where they were talking about having to cancel a traditional ski and skate event that used to take place every year because they just never had ice anymore and decided to move it to the Alps? I guess the ice is back for this year at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, jm1220 said: Wow, even Corpus Christi right on the Gulf is under a winter storm watch for ice and expected low on Mon night of 18. Brownsville with a WSW first time in a decade Remember the Christmas 2004 event? They must've lost their minds to have a white Christmas there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, jm1220 said: I remember flying in from TX during the Feb 2016 cold snap and absolutely freezing when I got off the plane. It was in the mid 70s when I left and probably single digits at JFK. Coming back up from the south, the cold is hard to get back adjusted to. that was VD when NYC had a lot of -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes. It was -3 on January 19, 1994. The interesting thing is LGA didn't get affected by the Sound but JFK did. Typically in early season snowstorms JFK beats LGA because the latter is right near the Sound. I remember this was the case in October 2011 and to greater effect in the November 2012 storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: The interesting thing is LGA didn't get affected by the Sound but JFK did. Typically in early season snowstorms JFK beats LGA because the latter is right near the Sound. I remember this was the case in October 2011 and to greater effect in the November 2012 storm. A due north wind spends more time over the Long Island Sound for JFK than it does for LGA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 almost the entire state of TX and OK are under a WS warning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: I remember Dec 1989, it wasn't fun lol. Cold and dry for a whole month with a brief break for a rainstorm (busted forecast of 8 inches of snow right up until the event), Dec 1989 avg temp of 25 and then we averaged 40 for both Jan and Feb, can you imagine that? Best event of the year was the 6 inches that fell on Thanksgiving, we had a grand total of 4 inches after that for the rest of the season and barely made it to 10 inches total. And the winter of 89 wasn't much better, with a blown call of a big snowstorm in Jan where not one flake fell in the metro region..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: And the winter of 89 wasn't much better, with a blown call of a big snowstorm in Jan where not one flake fell in the metro region..... yep got super warm around New Years and stayed warm the rest of the way. Dec was bad as it was just bitter cold and dry-the pattern we have now is much better-cold but not brutal and a nice storm track around a weaker SE ridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 5 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: A due north wind spends more time over the Long Island Sound for JFK than it does for LGA. oh thats why CAD affected them more than those two snowstorms did- they had NE winds! NE wind affects LGA more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, weatherpruf said: And the winter of 89 wasn't much better, with a blown call of a big snowstorm in Jan where not one flake fell in the metro region..... That was in Feb I think and ACY got 20 inches we got zilch well we got virga but thats it another blown 8 inch call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bluewave Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 So far the coldest low and high temperature in NYC this winter is 14°/25°. Houston has a chance to drop lower than that over the next few days. HOUSTON METROPOLITAN AREA... HOUSTON Cloudy Fzdrzl Ptcldy Fzrain Mocldy Sunny Sunny /36 18/23 12/33 33/42 31/37 24/49 35/63 /30 90/40 00/00 40/90 40/20 00/00 00/00 0.19 0.33 0.00 1.03 0.11 0.00 0.00 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Torch said: Can we get a better description and replace the word “thump” for winter forecasts? (that’s thump not Trump) Good morning, Torch. That might need its own, adults only discussion thread, As always ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 what a difference one week makes-last sunday models showed 2 weeks of cold and snow....got about 3 inches last week and possibly nothing but rainstorms this week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 At 11 am CST, frigid air continued to push into Texas. Select temperatures: Amarillo: 0° (low so far: -1°) Dallas-Fort Worth: 17° Houston: 34° Lubbock: 6° (low so far: 5°; old record: 12°, 2004) The temperature in Houston will likely reach the teens tomorrow morning. The last time that happened was January 17, 2018 when the temperature fell to 19°. The last time before that was January 8, 1996 when the temperature also fell to 19°. Overall, Houston can expect its lowest temperature since December 24, 1989 when the mercury dipped to 11°. Select temperature levels and most recent occurrences: Amarillo: < 0°: February 14, 2021: -1° (through 11 am CST) < -1°: January 7, 2017: -3° < -3°: February 10, 2011: -6° < -6°: December 22, 1989: -8° < -8°: February 11, 1986: -12° < -12°: February 1, 1951: -14° Dallas-Fort Worth: < 16°: January 17, 2018: 13° < 13°: February 4, 1996: 8° < 8°: December 23, 1989: -1° Houston: < 20°: January 17, 2018: 19° < 19°: December 24, 1989: 11° Lubbock: < 10°: February 14, 2021: 5° (through 11 am CST) < 5°: January 1, 2018: 4° < 4°: February 2, 2011: 2° < 2°: December 23, 1989: -1° < -1°: December 22, 1989: -2° < -2°: January 5, 1971: -4° < -4°: January 13, 1963: -16° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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