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The SSWE looks like  a Fail for us on the main LR models, leaving out the JMA.         Do not know what the latest is there.   

The benefit over last winter is that blobs of Arctic air may cause a surprise event.        There is no mention of real cold or snow here for this month.       Western Europe is sitting pretty.       Then Russia/Siberia.        We get the leftovers, if any.

In reality these outputs, whether Good or Bad for us are garbage.      We know that when the data for the Northern Winter are complied----there will be 4x the surface area shown as AN compared to the BN.       Just as it is every month, every season and annually.        Quite silly to try to place that patch(es) of Blue ahead of time.

Courtesy of WeatherBell.   The EURO did not update yet, but it was the same as below for D,J,F.

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1 hour ago, CIK62 said:

The SSWE looks like  a Fail for us on the main LR models, leaving out the JMA.         Do not know what the latest is there.   

The benefit over last winter is that blobs of Arctic air may cause a surprise event.        There is no mention of real cold or snow here for this month.       Western Europe is sitting pretty.       Then Russia/Siberia.        We get the leftovers, if any.

In reality these outputs, whether Good or Bad for us are garbage.      We know that when the data for the Northern Winter are complied----there will be 4x the surface area shown as AN compared to the BN.       Just as it is every month, every season and annually.        Quite silly to try to place that patch(es) of Blue ahead of time.

Courtesy of WeatherBell.   The EURO did not update yet, but it was the same as below for D,J,F.

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January

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looks warm yet snowy 

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16 hours ago, Rjay said:

I'll never forget what the Eagles did tonight.  The Giants suck and don't deserve anything but that was beyond words. 

they should have their first round draft pick taken away as punishment and given to the Giants

 

fwiw I dont believe ANY NFC east team should be allowed into the playoffs

 

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so far NYC has one mesurable snowfall this season of 10.5"...the average measurable snowfall has gone up in recent years...snowfalls are heavier on average...if we did not know already...

decade.....................snowfalls.....total snowfall....ave snowfall

1950-51 to 1959-60.....118..................226.0"................1.9"

1960-61 to 1969-70.....115..................307.3"................2.7"

1970-71 to 1979-80.......91..................212.5"................2.3"

1980-81 to 1989-90.......91..................197.4"................2.2"

1990-91 to 1999-00.......88..................247.3"................2.8"

2000-01 to 2009-10.......94..................314.7"................3.3"

2010-11 to 2019-20.....100..................330.3"................3.3"

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highest average by year...

2009-10..............................9...................51.4".................5.7"

1982-83..............................5...................27.2".................5.4"

2010-11............................12...................61.9".................5.2"

2005-06..............................8...................40.0"................5.0"

2015-16..............................7...................32.8"................4.7"

lowest average by year...

1972-73...............................3.....................2.8"................0.9"

2019-20...............................5.....................4.8"................1.0"

1996-97...............................8...................10.0"................1.3"

1985-86..............................10..................13.0"................1.3"

1962-63..............................12...................16.3"...............1.4"

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7 hours ago, JoshSnow said:

I’m going to guess the future. We will start getting major hits from GFS to Cmc and UkMet the next few cycles for next tuesdays event. Than we will be tracking a major nor’easter and all of sudden by the time it’s all said and done we’ll be getting snow to sleet back to snow like the one we just had a few weeks back.

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.TONIGHT...Clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph this evening. 
.THURSDAY...Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. 
.THURSDAY NIGHT...Clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds
around 5 mph. 
.FRIDAY...Sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph. 
.FRIDAY NIGHT...Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds
5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph after midnight. 
.SATURDAY...Sunny. Highs in the upper 30s. 
.SATURDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. 
.SUNDAY...Sunny. Highs around 40. 
.SUNDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. 
.MONDAY...Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. 
.MONDAY NIGHT...Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. 
.TUESDAY...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. 
.TUESDAY NIGHT...Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. 
.WEDNESDAY...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. 
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42 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


.TONIGHT...Clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph this evening. 
.THURSDAY...Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. 
.THURSDAY NIGHT...Clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds
around 5 mph. 
.FRIDAY...Sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 5 to
10 mph. 
.FRIDAY NIGHT...Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds
5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph after midnight. 
.SATURDAY...Sunny. Highs in the upper 30s. 
.SATURDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. 
.SUNDAY...Sunny. Highs around 40. 
.SUNDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. 
.MONDAY...Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. 
.MONDAY NIGHT...Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. 
.TUESDAY...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. 
.TUESDAY NIGHT...Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. 
.WEDNESDAY...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. 

too much blocking and this is what you get....

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6 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

You will have a sandwich and it will be cold and a foot long and it will be the best sandwich ever so you'll have 2 more! 3 feet of sandwiches!

it was a footlong chicken breast but due to ratios the bread was only 6".  all the vegetables fell off and i got mustard all over my face.  my worst forecast bust since i burned that pot roast Christmas 2017.

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12 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

too much blocking and this is what you get....

I always wondered what our winter temps would be like if we just sat in our own airmass. No injections of cold from the north or warmth from the south. I think this is just slightly cooler then what you would get as we do have a little northerly component to the flow. 

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We just have to face the facts that in all likelihood this will be the 3rd consecutive winter where the PAC refuses to cooperate despite the overall pattern as a whole reshuffles each ensuing winter. This winter season would hurt the most with a -NAO and we still can’t cash in. Just mind boggling.

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13 minutes ago, NutleyBlizzard said:

We just have to face the facts that in all likelihood this will be the 3rd consecutive winter where the PAC refuses to cooperate despite the overall pattern as a whole reshuffles each ensuing winter. This winter season would hurt the most with a -NAO and we still can’t cash in. Just mind boggling.

Agree

We have to stop getting our hopes up for anything in the long range. People have to stop posting about the stupid SSW. They rarely work for our area. Majority of the cold always end up on the wrong side.

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2 hours ago, NutleyBlizzard said:

We just have to face the facts that in all likelihood this will be the 3rd consecutive winter where the PAC refuses to cooperate despite the overall pattern as a whole reshuffles each ensuing winter. This winter season would hurt the most with a -NAO and we still can’t cash in. Just mind boggling.

I'd settle for a March 2019 repeat. At least we saw 2 decent storms to start the month. Expect huge storms and you'll most likely be disappointed 

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On 1/5/2021 at 5:07 PM, JoshSnow said:

I’m going to guess the future. We will start getting major hits from GFS to Cmc and UkMet the next few cycles for next tuesdays event. Than we will be tracking a major nor’easter and all of sudden by the time it’s all said and done we’ll be getting snow to sleet back to snow like the one we just had a few weeks back.

I’ll give you lots of credit if this happens lol 

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