WinterWxLuvr Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 @DTWXRISK and @psuhoffman Always great stuff from you guys. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: If you can only have one and the other will we total garbage the pac is better. We have more snows from pac help and a disaster atl then the other way. However, that assumes both the epo and pna are hostile. The advantage of high latitude blocking in a Nina is if you get enough ridging into the western NAO and AO domain it’s going to apply pressure on the TPV to either retrograde west just enough to pop a pna ridge...the you have a +epo, +pna -AO/NAO which is a great snow pattern or you get the tpv to drop into the west and pop an epo ridge and get a -epo -pna -AO/NAO which is also good. It’s hard with a great looK up top for the pac to remain total garbage in both the epo and pna domains. It would be nice to get a -EPO, -PNA, -AO and -NAO. A east based negative NAO would be better than a west based one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, DTWXRISK said: LOOOKS better here woof monster -NAO if its correct It’s the best look up top we’ve had in years...some ppl are just getting antsy because there isn’t a blizzard on the Gfs yet lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 i wont believe this pattern is real till @Bob ChiIIis back 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, psuhoffman said: It’s the best look up top we’ve had in years...some ppl are just getting antsy because there isn’t a blizzard on the Gfs yet lol i remember the 18-19 winter...the euro weeklies kept advertising this but it never came to pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowchaser Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 ICON looks solid for Monday. Just need more cold air. At a minimum this could be a heavy wet snow maker for the mountains in western Virginia and West Virginia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 ICON is back with the monday storm. You could see it on the 500 maps...but it looks like rain to start lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ji said: ICON is back with the monday storm. You could see it on the 500 maps...but it looks like rain to start lol and rain to end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Snowchaser said: ICON looks solid for Monday. Just need a little more cold air. At a minimum this could be a heavy wet snow maker for the mountains in western Virginia and West Virginia. Beat me to the punch. Icon trying to peeps closer to eastern apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buddy1987 said: Beat me to the punch. Icon trying to peeps closer to eastern apps. just brutal---cant ask for a better track--this also seems really fast--sunday night to monday morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ji said: i remember the 18-19 winter...the euro weeklies kept advertising this but it never came to pass Yes except we aren’t chasing a day 16 fantasy. The NAO ridging has already begun to develop and by 72 hours we have a legit -AO/NAO that holds and even strengthens through the rest of the run on ALL guidance. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkelWx Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The ICON has a known warm bias IIRC. That "rain" is likely snow. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ji said: just brutal---cant ask for a better track--this also seems really fast--sunday night to monday morning? Agreed. Track can’t get much better than that. This whole pattern is very volatile. Medium range is gonna get might busy me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ji said: ICON is back with the monday storm. You could see it on the 500 maps...but it looks like rain to start lol Surface is scorched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowchaser Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I can see a scenario Monday where everyone under 2,000 feet in elevation gets heavy rain. While places like Snowshoe, WV and elevations above 3,000 feet get 12” inches of heavy wet snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Me too ! Anthony Masiello @antmasiello Looking forward to the 12/10 00z update. Poleward EP vectors! 10:34 PM · Dec 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowLover22 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ji said: i wont believe this pattern is real till @Bob ChiIIis back could be he's not coming back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, psuhoffman said: Surface is scorched. Crazy right?! You got 2m’s in Wytheville at 32 and in central and eastern va you’re up around 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, SnowLover22 said: he's not coming back What happened to Bob anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 One thing that’s giving me the warm fuzzies is that we see a great look up top develop within 10 days from now and not really relent through the remainder of the run. Looking at the GEFS, we see the -AO and -NAO and a decent look on the Pacific side, as well. It'll suck if we don’t score in the next couple weeks, but if we can set this as the base atmospheric state for the season then we WILL score sooner rather than later. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, SnowLover22 said: could be he's not coming back its a weather board. it dosent have to be dramatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Buddy1987 said: What happened to Bob anyway? he spent 14000 straight hours on this board without seeing an inch of snow 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Icon in CMC camp and honking for next Wed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, Buddy1987 said: Icon in CMC camp and honking for next Wed. magic of CAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 geez that is a fast moving storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTWXRISK Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ji said: and rain to end sooo? did expect anything else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowchaser Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 NOAA is thinking this will be a mountain event for Monday. Western Virginia, West Virginia into western Pennsylvania. If true, this could really help the ski resorts out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Snowchaser said: NOAA is thinking this will be a mountain event for Monday. Western Virginia, West Virginia into western Pennsylvania. If true, this could really help the ski resorts out. Honestly a 10% chance of 0.25” of snow/sleet QPF for D5 for the mountains of MD and WV could probably be shown all winter long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Icon is a jumper. But what a thump that would be out this way. Thump to dryslot would be just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 take the GFS and ICON and blend them for next monday--that would work lol. GFS did take a big step towards something 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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