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December Medium/Long Range Discussion


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38 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Here’s the NA view on the 12Z GEFS leading up to next Thursday’s potential...legit -NAO and 50/50 ish low.  Nice look there.

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Yup, wouldn't focus on specifics at the surface but it's definitely an interesting pattern. You can clearly see cold air protruding from Canada and an active southern stream jet. I suspect there will be multiple waves over the coming weeks and NWP models will probably struggle.

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  I am  as BULLlSH about  Mid DEC for  the NE  US--    say  from PA  turnpike   north  as any one .   

in fact  I  made a  post last week about   DEC 2  abut Mid December potential  in the general thread  ( which no one looked at ) .   
I ddnt know  which short wave   was  gong to be the  one..  DEC 14  or DEC 16  ...until yesterday. 

I am  bullish about  MILLER B DEC 16  event...   I think to see something  like this in Mid DEC in a   moderate La  Nina  should be  a  red flag to all the     oh woe   to me  this is  a shitty  winter  crowd 

 I am  NOT against posting snow map  BUT I loathe   the  wxbell and  weathermodels snow maps ... 
Give me pivotal   weather  and  euro wx snowmaps.

 Hell even tropical  tidbits  snow maps when used  correctly are better 

 but yeah   yeah for  NE USA  for  12/16  i  am NOT woofing yet  .. Growling  yes..   

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1 hour ago, WxWatcher007 said:

It’s about as good as it can get. For all the hand wringing about the pattern breaking down or not showing up, there were hints of a mid-December pattern shift 2-3 weeks ago and here we are on the cusp.
 

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Notice the trend towards a -NAO and -AO around the 15th, then another bump down around the 19th. That's probably next week's storm shuffling everything towards a better pattern for snow. Wes had a graphic that showed when the NAO and AO are tanking we typically get some slop storm and then about 10 days later we get a cleaner pass.  Looks like it may be happening.

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