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December Medium/Long Range Discussion


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33 minutes ago, DTWXRISK said:

  this event  is classic   event /  noreaster  that proves the   old adage   about   the difficulty of seeing a    SECS  in  early  DEC  

It takes a nearly perfect set-up, plus the usual luck, to overcome climo and get a significant snow event in the lowlands of the MA before mid December. It happens, but not often.

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2 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

Gfs had a better week than the euro. Euro has been trending towards a more Gfs like solution this weekend and Eps caved to the Eastern ridge day 9/10 that the gefs picked up on 36 hours ago. 

Shades of last 2 winters where the GEFS led the way with the EPS often dangling unicorns then slowly caving. 

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16 minutes ago, Wonderdog said:

That would be a nice event for the area. Does the depicted look at H5, support this storm?

Plenty of shortwave energy in the northern and southern branch for that period with a western ridge and colder air digging south. No way to know how the the interactions will unfold at this range. There will be the usual extreme run to run variation on the ops. 

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11 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Another thing to watch wrt that feature...if it can really bomb out into the 50/50 area it would improve our chances with the Dec 12-15 period. 

I was just coming to post this.  It's not much but having that feature stronger has already improved heights somewhat across the conus.  

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6 minutes ago, Amped said:

GFS has a closed H5 low track along the MD line and we don't get a flake.  Officially an unworkable setup for us.

 I'd be mildly intrigued for NC and SE VA though where most of his audience is.

no matter what the models always seem to show...we never see a flake

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