rclab Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: You avg 25" of snow. Winter time is naturally a waste there. Your observation is true and in many years generous. However that 25” line will sadly be pushing well north, along the coast, in the decades to come. As always ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just also ... those perceived limitations are based not on the future - but on observance of recent trend and verification and model behavior ...sort of blended - Again again again ...that does not mean we can't change for the better. We have to be really careful here.. When we're dealing with 'edgy' flows that ride the fence of either positive or negative interference ... it take less to tip outcomes one way or the other. Nuances become proxy in such delicate matters ... Example, ever so slight post flow ridge response in the west gives a small amount of positive interference back to the wave ejection... The Miami Rule lurks there...but probably what happens is that you get more wave potency along a narrower latitude. - needle threader... Which by the way, this is already gone from a big up the EC Miller-B to needle thread as it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, rclab said: Your observation is true and in many years generous. However that 25” line will sadly be pushing well north, along the coast, in the decades to come. As always ... Our averages in SNE have yet to begin decreasing.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: me too unfortunately..NYC busted really bad looking at it now, they had a 17" FX from the NWS. They only picked up 7.6. I remember watching the dual pol sleet line racing north through Jersey and LI early that morning and knew the forecasts were in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, rclab said: Your observation is true and in many years generous. However that 25” line will sadly be pushing well north, along the coast, in the decades to come. As always ... Except the new NYC 30 year average will be almost 30"/yr. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: I don’t really get that feeling right after storms. Maybe a few days after. I get the feeling the minute radar flips to light snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: I don’t really get that feeling right after storms. Maybe a few days after. It starts creeping in right after the height of the storm and then slowly gets more and more pronounced towards the end, then when its over it hits like a truck....until i can find something on the interwebs to satiate my appetite. For example the most accurate, most scientifically sound, tried and true snow maps...especially the wxbell and weathermodel ones. Those are clearly superior to all other sites, because they show the most snow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Crappy morning at work. Please post clown maps to cheer me up. ...Post snowiest solutions only. Thanks in advance. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Our averages in SNE have yet to begin decreasing.. They didn't decrease in NYC either, they increased actually. Not that it's my concern anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Our averages in SNE have yet to begin decreasing.. The Geography of our location should prevent snow averages from changing much and in my opinion global warming could only intensify and increase snow totals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoth said: I remember watching the dual pol sleet line racing north through Jersey and LI early that morning and knew the forecasts were in trouble ask and you shall receive. oh you didn't ask? Well here it is anyways....enjoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, DotRat_Wx said: The Geography of our location should prevent snow averages from changing much and in my opinion global warming could only intensify and increase snow totals... May change distribution imo...more big tickets, less mood events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I favor that, as well. I'm fine with some snow, but I wouldn't expect 1'+. Oh I know, but many on here do despite the caveats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: ask and you shall receive. oh you didn't ask? Well here it is anyways....enjoy No need to reopen old wounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: Except the new NYC 30 year average will be almost 30"/yr. Yeah it's 29.3 for the last 30 years 20 years: 31.6 10 years: 34.9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: May change distribution imo...more big tickets, less mood events. Yes - agree with that. Makes a ton of sense. Our average Temps will rise. But a 1040 hp nosing in from our north will always drag cold air down in front of an approaching noreastern. Temp increases won't change our patterns. But they may intensify the boundaries. I'm no scientific genius but that's the way I look at it anyway. Can't ignore the effect increased Temps would have on ocean sst though. Coastal locations may suffer a bit more and see a decreased seasonal window for snow imo.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: I get the feeling the minute radar flips to light snow I get that feeling when I realize eastern New England is getting pounded, and I'm like Gary Sanchez with the golden sombrero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Yes - agree with that. Makes a ton of sense. Our average Temps will rise. But a 1040 hp nosing in from our north will always drag cold air down in front of an approaching noreastern. Temp increases won't change our patterns. But they may intensify the boundaries. I'm no scientific genius but that's the way I look at it anyway. Can't ignore the effect increased Temps would have on ocean sst though. Coastal locations may suffer a bit more and see a decreased seasonal window for snow imo.. Stronger coastal fronts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cold Miser said: Crappy morning at work. Please post clown maps to cheer me up. ...Post snowiest solutions only. Thanks in advance. Incoming in about 30-45min. Stay tuned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, rclab said: Your observation is true and in many years generous. However that 25” line will sadly be pushing well north, along the coast, in the decades to come. As always ... I expect it to decrease locally aside from any AGW component, due to the shear absurdity of the last 20 years. We are due for a little regression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Where's my rain/snow line.... Dear God I hope you get rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: I expect it to decrease locally aside from any AGW component, due to the shear absurdity of the last 20 years. We are due for a little regression. Or maybe it doesn’t and you have another 2015 in 2030? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Or maybe it doesn’t and you have another 2015 in 2030? Nah, Tip's hadley cell will eat us before then. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Or maybe it doesn’t and you have another 2015 in 2030? Maybe, but my guess is that it gets tougher to repeat the last 20+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Maybe, but my guess is that it gets tougher to repeat the last 20+ years. Sports, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: ask and you shall receive. oh you didn't ask? Well here it is anyways....enjoy Lol, the depression didn't even wait for after the storm with that one. That sleet-infused cement did have some staying power though as I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Sports, too. Moreso sports. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, CoastalWx said: Moreso sports. LOL. Don’t worry. Cam is one and done. It will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Does the shit wave early next week have any bearing on our main event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Does the shit wave early next week have any bearing on our main event? its 2020, so I will just assume it does.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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