CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Feb 25-26 2010 snowicane was a miller b, can't get much farther west than that, it backed up over CT and NYC. @CoastalWx Even I got screwed from that in terms of wind. LOL. Core of LLJ went into nrn MA and SNH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I thought each day had a chance? I know you had that rogue band the other day. Cold air aloft, but thicknesses not brutal mean moisture in the air and the mtns squeeze it out. You won't have these when it's -30C at 850. Yeah I guess they do... but that pattern can also often be Dusting to inch and have a nice day. Last night dropped an inch of like snow drizzle, I think that’s the cling. It was snow but all low level small flakes, a decent amount of them. I dunno, I definitely didn’t expect this scene on the whole when looking at the pattern for this week. I think town has continued to out perform the mountain some how too. That plays into the wow factor. Temps and moisture are good. It’s been like 25-27F every day and good inversion with lots of moisture trapped under it. I think we are getting blocked flow upslope from the Worcester Range on the east side of town... that 3500ft ridge line I think is backing up the flow just enough to keep moisture coming in town, while east slope of Mansfield where the ski area is finds itself blocked out a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I thought each day had a chance? I know you had that rogue band the other day. Cold air aloft, but thicknesses not brutal mean moisture in the air and the mtns squeeze it out. You won't have these when it's -30C at 850. Yea seems foreseen by some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, The 4 Seasons said: Loved this one. Probably one of the first storms I remember truly tracking online using like unisys weather models (or something like that). Anyone remember that site? We had 13” in Albany I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Yea seems foreseen by some I know Ginxy, you’re never surprised lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Loved this one. Probably one of the first storms I remember truly tracking online using like unisys weather models (or something like that). Anyone remember that site? We had 13” in Albany I think. The AVN and the MRF days... JB daily vids and still good crazy.... and an epic, epic winter for VT. (here too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Loved this one. Probably one of the first storms I remember truly tracking online using like unisys weather models (or something like that). Anyone remember that site? We had 13” in Albany I think. 16” where I was living then 10 miles east of JFK airport. First time I definitely heard thundersnow. Fast switch to mostly rain though on the eastern 1/2 of Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Big rainstorm for next week but the storm signal continues on the gfs. Good track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScituateWX Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Even I got screwed from that in terms of wind. LOL. Core of LLJ went into nrn MA and SNH. If I recall turned into a rather significant coastal flood event in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I don’t think feb 25-26, 2010 is a miller B. That was this huge retrojob. The storm center was like down in the Bahamas the day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, radarman said: Feb 2010 references might summon Logan from the NY wilderness. He got like 40"+ I got 40 inches that month in NYC That retrogading storm was insane to track. The rain snow line cut right through Central LI early on in the storm . The storm looped on top and around of NYC at night. 14 inches at night with thunder snow was great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: God Dec 2000 can go shit in a hat. Friend of mine did that when we were kids and his mother spent too much time in the store, red hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, radarman said: The AVN and the MRF days... JB daily vids and still good crazy.... and an epic, epic winter for VT. (here too) Wasn't there one in February 2000 too that just kept tracking westward on the models in the final 48 hours and hit a similar area? I distinctly remember an event we were going to whiff in ALB and for some reason the memory is very vivid of skiing Whiteface that day and coming home to see the ETA was all the sudden hammering eastern New York and adjacent western New England. The event I'm thinking of had some insane meso-band from the Berkshires to SE of ALB and into the lower Hudson Valley I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I guess they do... but that pattern can also often be Dusting to inch and have a nice day. Last night dropped an inch of like snow drizzle, I think that’s the cling. It was snow but all low level small flakes, a decent amount of them. I dunno, I definitely didn’t expect this scene on the whole when looking at the pattern for this week. I think town has continued to out perform the mountain some how too. That plays into the wow factor. Temps and moisture are good. It’s been like 25-27F every day and good inversion with lots of moisture trapped under it. I think we are getting blocked flow upslope from the Worcester Range on the east side of town... that 3500ft ridge line I think is backing up the flow just enough to keep moisture coming in town, while east slope of Mansfield where the ski area is finds itself blocked out a bit. That's how I felt in 2015. Each s/w that looked benign dropped 1-3 lol. It is an awesome feeling for sure. Great pics. We jelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I don’t think feb 25-26, 2010 is a miller B. That was this huge retrojob. The storm center was like down in the Bahamas the day before. i dunno i wasnt here for that one i just looked at some maps that were available from that time cant believe 2010 was 10 years ago. Still seems recent. I mean it wasn't exactly a miller A then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Blocking keeps showing up next week and beyond 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: That's how I felt in 2015. Each s/w that looked benign dropped 1-3 lol. It is an awesome feeling for sure. Great pics. We jelly. Comparing a few over-performing snow shower events up here to Feb 2015 seems like a major party foul. I get it but that made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I hate March 2001 with a passion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, MJO812 said: I hate March 2001 with a passion Banned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, powderfreak said: Banned. And for hanging out in the wrong tribe. This is New England. Double Banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, The 4 Seasons said: i dunno i wasnt here for that one i just looked at some maps that were available from that time cant believe 2010 was 10 years ago. Still seems recent. I mean it wasn't exactly a miller A then either I’ve heard some Mets over the years calling those big ocean retrojobs as Miller Cs since they don’t fit the definition of either an A or a B as per Miller’s original 1946 paper. It was probably closer to an A though since it’s origins were way down in the subtropics around Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: I hate March 2001 with a passion That was brutal. I’ve had some mind numbing busts in my weenie career. It’s so bad that the wife wants me to get a hotel if another big one comes, I can’t stay home. She can’t deal with my mood swings and the day during the bust... I’m practically uncontrollable. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 March ‘01 might have been the only time I’ll be “disappointed” with like 2 feet of snow. It felt like we left about 12-18” on the table in that one. The modeling was so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: March ‘01 might have been the only time I’ll be “disappointed” with like 2 feet of snow. It felt like we left about 12-18” on the table in that one. The modeling was so ridiculous. I think I asked you before so refresh my memory. Wtf happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: March ‘01 might have been the only time I’ll be “disappointed” with like 2 feet of snow. It felt like we left about 12-18” on the table in that one. The modeling was so ridiculous. Bruce Schwoegler left nothing on the table. Great storm up here. Feb 01 too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Wasn't there one in February 2000 too that just kept tracking westward on the models in the final 48 hours and hit a similar area? I distinctly remember an event we were going to whiff in ALB and for some reason the memory is very vivid of skiing Whiteface that day and coming home to see the ETA was all the sudden hammering eastern New York and adjacent western New England. The event I'm thinking of had some insane meso-band from the Berkshires to SE of ALB and into the lower Hudson Valley I think. Pretty sure it's 1/30/00. You were way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScituateWX Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: Bruce Schwoegler left nothing on the table. Great storm up here. Feb 01 too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I think I asked you before so refresh my memory. Wtf happened? Everything phased kind of later and more disjointed than originally modeled. The more disjointed is what cost New England from getting widespread 3+ feet. The later and further north phase/development is what screwed further south (like mid-Atlantic) from getting snow at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: That was brutal. I’ve had some mind numbing busts in my weenie career. It’s so bad that the wife wants me to get a hotel if another big one comes, I can’t stay home. She can’t deal with my mood swings and the day during the bust... I’m practically uncontrollable. wait what? Were you in Southbury CT? or NYC? I mean we were always forcast to get slightly less in extreme southern CT than say the litchfield hills but having a 54hr snow storm with every p-type thats frozen and 12-18" at the end is never brutal imo. I finished with over a foot. Sure 3 feet would be nice but we werent expecting that. I remember the zones were 12-18" for here and thats where we finished. Heres the map: This is a funny video referring to that storm as well: You can see forecasts for Wills area was 1-3 ft and 20-30" for around Worcester. But southern CT and your area was more like 12-24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: Bruce Schwoegler left nothing on the table. Great storm up here. Feb 01 too. Yeah it was an awesome storm but I let internal expectations get out of hand. Nowadays regardless of what the models show, is never feel screwed by getting 25 inches. I was still pretty new with modeling though being 19 years old at the time. But it was really hard not to believe the 3-4 foot totals....even the old NGM was like 3.3 inches of qpf, lol. It was like pulling teeth to get that model to spit out more than an inch or inch and a quarter in any other big winter storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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