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December 2020 Discussion


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  On 12/1/2020 at 10:40 PM, FRWEATHA said:
Would love to see a repeat of this storm. Very impactful and memorable storm down here. Wind stayed N and NNW avoiding any changeover. 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/12/07/us/unpredicted-storm-brings-new-england-up-to-2-feet-of-snow.html

My memory was that winter was good overall here and great for CNE and NNE. Had the early April blizzard too.
 

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That is the one that gave my area 18" and ORH like 5".

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jesus... just when we're ready to pull the trigger on tossing accolades at the GFS ...it immediately puts out a cycle that looks like they detonated an a-bomb on the mother board of the Cray stack

Firstly, it's not going to success in evacuating that intense N/stream arced flow over Ontario  just in convenient time to take that stupid thing that far NW like that...  too much mass displacement - .. 

It's almost like they deliberate parameterized the GFS not to phase - ..it's progressive bias just kills it...

I saw the NAM and thought well...there's the Euro nod ...then the GFS seems to purposefully do odd whole-scale things to avoid it lol

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  On 12/2/2020 at 12:50 AM, dryslot said:

This one on the 5th is more of a thread the needle with a marginal air mass in place, I would prefer the follow up wave on the 7/8th with a slightly better air mass if we had a choice.

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We want the first to cut way west if you want baroclinic zone close to coast for that one 

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  On 12/2/2020 at 1:09 AM, PhineasC said:

West enough to rain on all of us followed by out to sea sounds about right. Any chance 12/7 turns into a blizzard for Norfolk? That would just feel right. 

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The most likely outcome as it stands, Lets get this to trend east some so at least the NW areas up here can salvage something.

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  On 12/2/2020 at 1:09 AM, PhineasC said:

West enough to rain on all of us followed by out to sea sounds about right. Any chance 12/7 turns into a blizzard for Norfolk? That would just feel right. 

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At least you’re prob getting good upslope behind the 12/5 system. More favorable look than the trash this current system will give. 

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  On 12/2/2020 at 1:23 AM, SnowGoose69 said:

I would be wary still of the euro being overamped at this range as it seems to be consistently the last 5 years.  It was insanely overamped with tomorrow's evolution of this very system over OK/TX 3 days ago and has since gone the other way.  

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We will see if the others cave to it tonight. 

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