Rd9108 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Christmas eve on steroids it seems for NYE. Can we jackpot again? Long way out but the signal is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Christmas eve on steroids it seems for NYE. Can we jackpot again? Long way out but the signal is there GFS, threw out a total similar to that for this storm, maybe it comes to a more realistic number like we just had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Christmas eve on steroids it seems for NYE. Can we jackpot again? Long way out but the signal is there Next window to watch for sure although 00z Euro and 12z Canadian ops don't really support and even GFS has shifted west. Still 6-7 days out so who knows how it will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Rd9108 said: So all we need is a big daddy and my winter season will be complete. So far this is exactly what I like. Front loaded seasons are better than backloaded. I believe we are in a good place as far as storm tracks. No doubt. I’ve always preferred more snow in December. In fact I would trade most of March, if it meant more snow in December every year. Chasing that first snowfall into the middle of January is annoying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Is GFS decent at picking out a pattern earlier and doing the worst after that, or am I imagining that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Ahoff said: Is GFS decent at picking out a pattern earlier and doing the worst after that, or am I imagining that? I think that is generally correct. Especially in our area where it seems to underestimate warm air advection. So when that is the driver of snowfall, it’s going to underestimate it. When it leads to mixing issues, it also of course underestimates that. The why’s are above my pay grade. The mesoscale models with smaller grid spacing pick up more local nuances and thus are more accurate in the short team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Unfortunately, it doesn’t look good for winter for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCity87 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ahoff said: Unfortunately, it doesn’t look good for winter for a while. That changed quickly. Read articles last week saying this was the upcoming pattern was the best since 96' lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 hours ago, SteelCity87 said: That changed quickly. Read articles last week saying this was the upcoming pattern was the best since 96' lol. If I had a nickel for everytime I've heard "we have a great upcoming pattern" and it didn't pan out I'd be rich. We had a great month though regardless...just hope the rest of the winter doesn't suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 hours ago, SteelCity87 said: That changed quickly. Read articles last week saying this was the upcoming pattern was the best since 96' lol. I know people were saying after Christmas there would be better blocking and I heard a pattern resembling early February 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg8tr0514 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If I had a nickel for everytime I've heard "we have a great upcoming pattern" and it didn't pan out I'd be rich. We had a great month though regardless...just hope the rest of the winter doesn't suck.Just need you to make your “call” of 1-2” and we’ll have a great snowy winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just out of curiosity, we’ve had 3 6+ inch events already this year. How many did we have the last 5 years or so total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, lwg8tr0514 said: Just need you to make your “call” of 1-2” and we’ll have a great snowy winter . K. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just remember this from kdka last month, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, north pgh said: Just remember this from kdka last month, 1. We've already beaten that, so yay! 2. They are either very wrong, or... 3. We are super screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelCity87 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, north pgh said: Is this our highest monthly total since Feb 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, SteelCity87 said: Is this our highest monthly total since Feb 2010? It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 12/27/2020 at 1:32 PM, SteelCity87 said: That changed quickly. Read articles last week saying this was the upcoming pattern was the best since 96' lol. I'm seeing alot of discussions / debate on whether the higher heights in Greenland are really due to a "true" NAO or just the result of way above normal temperatures inflating past average 500mb heights for this time of year. Still more data says that the precursor to a SSW / PV split is typically above average temperatures for us. All above my pay grade but what I do see is a general lack of cold air. It's odd to see rain on the NW side of a low pressure in early January anywhere let alone up into Canada. I think we just need more time to see how this evolves. Do we end up with the typical Nina response the rest of winter (Nina's are usually front loaded) or does some other factor combined with the a hopefully weakening Nina yield different results. As always expect models to struggle during any change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 NWS says this is the 2nd snowiest December ever, 8th snowiest month ever, and 4th snowiest start to a season ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Ahoff said: NWS says this is the 2nd snowiest December ever, 8th snowiest month ever, and 4th snowiest start to a season ever. Not terribly informative but a "fun" read while we wait for the next snow threat to track: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/12/29/pittsburgh-weather-snow-winter/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem Manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2M6BlBRt27u7OKOMsfswAWa5TvFsAgbDNHj_Pz7SKTf8e-4Mdw4ZkLkzk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 With the little snow we received this morning, this is now the 7th snowiest month ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutnOakmont Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What a pleasant surprise to receive about a half inch overnight. I thought for sure it was just going to be rain. Hope everybody is well and happy new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Pretty crazy we had the 2nd snowiest December. Looks like we have a strong block developing for the beginning of January. Tracking chances will start to show up again soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Yes I picked up an inch. I happened to be outside with my sick dog off and on overnight. It started to switch from rain to snow about 2:30 and came down pretty good for about 2 hours. Happy New year everyone and hopefully this year of storms can continue January and February. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 1247 PM EST Thu Dec 31 2020 OHZ039>041-048>050-057>059-068-069-PAZ007-013-014-020>022-029-031- 073-075-WVZ001>004-510-511-513-010200- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0018.210101T1200Z-210101T1800Z/ Tuscarawas-Carroll-Columbiana-Coshocton-Harrison-Jefferson OH- Muskingum-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Mercer-Lawrence-Butler- Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Fayette- Hancock-Brooke-Ohio-Marshall- Ridges of Eastern Monongalia and Northwestern Preston-Preston- Western Tucker- Including the cities of New Philadelphia, Dover, Carrollton, Malvern, East Liverpool, Salem, Columbiana, Coshocton, Cadiz, Steubenville, Zanesville, Cambridge, Martins Ferry, St. Clairsville, Caldwell, Woodsfield, Sharon, Hermitage, Grove City, New Castle, Ellwood City, Butler, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Uniontown, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, Moundsville, Coopers Rock, Kingwood, Bruceton Mills, Parsons, Hendricks, and Saint George 1247 PM EST Thu Dec 31 2020 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TO 1 PM EST FRIDAY... * WHAT...Freezing rain expected. Total ice accumulations of a light glaze. * WHERE...Portions of northwest, southwest and western Pennsylvania, east central Ohio and northern and the northern panhandle of West Virginia. * WHEN...From 7 AM to 1 PM EST Friday. * IMPACTS...Very slippery sidewalks, roads and bridges are possible. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning commute. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Precipitation will changeover to rain as temperature increases through midday Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 It’s funny, they seem to issue a WWA very quickly for a tiny bit of ice that will melt pretty fast, but wait forever to issue one for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ahoff said: It’s funny, they seem to issue a WWA very quickly for a tiny bit of ice that will melt pretty fast, but wait forever to issue one for snow. 12/13/09 there was a similar event that shut down the parkway west for awhile. ( Luckily I flew to Ft Lauderdale the day before ) IMO the relatively smaller ice events, seem to be the worse driving wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, CoraopolisWx said: 12/13/09 there was a similar event that shut down the parkway west for awhile. ( Luckily I flew to Ft Lauderdale the day before ) IMO the relatively smaller ice events, seem to be the worse driving wise. Well, yes, I understand that, but it's just funny that it took them a while to put warnings for a 10" snow storm, but a bit of rain that will freeze for a few hours then rapidly melt, gets more than a day's notice. Just interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Happy New Year everyone! Looks like some solid blocking is showing up on the models. Here's to hopefully more tracking and more importantly big hits in our near future! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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