PghPirates27 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Damn they are pretty confident that we will get atleast 4 from this. NWS PBZ pretty bullish too, 4-6 inches: Timing for the change over looks to be sometime between 6pm-11pm With the GFS being quicker and NAM / Canadian a bit slower. Part of me is actually hoping for a later switch (assuming it doesn't affect totals). I think it will be an awesome transformation from bare ground to winter wounder land when the kids wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Yeah, everybody seems oddly confident in this situation. Hopefully, that's good news, but it brings big bust potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 19 hours ago, Rd9108 said: Don't even start. I have zero confidence in this event, just based off what we have seen with these in the past. Then again literally everything has overperformed this year so maybe this will continue the trend. In any case, we were essentially halfway to our season average before winter even started. Given our last few December’s which seem to remember constantly being in the 50’s that’s a win, not to mention we already got our best storm since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 NAM is back on board. The question now is how fast does the front roll through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 hours ago, RitualOfTheTrout said: NWS PBZ pretty bullish too, 4-6 inches: Timing for the change over looks to be sometime between 6pm-11pm With the GFS being quicker and NAM / Canadian a bit slower. Part of me is actually hoping for a later switch (assuming it doesn't affect totals). I think it will be an awesome transformation from bare ground to winter wounder land when the kids wake up. Instead of a slow bleed, they must be expecting a sudden burst of cold air at all levels. This should promote decent snow growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Wow Canadian! Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, north pgh said: Wow Canadian! Merry Christmas! GFS a good 6”-7” as well. Models are advertising a suprisingly (to me) wide swath of decent snows. That would seem to give us a bit more wiggle room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, north pgh said: Wow Canadian! Merry Christmas! The Canadian is refusing to backdown. Going down with the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Burghblizz said: GFS a good 6”-7” as well. Models are advertising a suprisingly (to me) wide swath of decent snows. That would seem to give us a bit more wiggle room We are going for top 5 Decembers. Imagine if we get another 8 inch storm. That would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Winter Weather Advisory URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 1239 PM EST Wed Dec 23 2020 PAZ007>009-013>016-020>023-029-031-073-075-WVZ001>004-012-021-509- 241000- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0017.201225T0000Z-201225T1800Z/ Mercer-Venango-Forest-Lawrence-Butler-Clarion-Jefferson PA-Beaver- Allegheny-Armstrong-Indiana-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland- Fayette-Hancock-Brooke-Ohio-Marshall-Wetzel-Marion-Monongalia- Including the cities of Sharon, Hermitage, Grove City, Oil City, Franklin, Tionesta, New Castle, Ellwood City, Butler, Clarion, Punxsutawney, Brookville, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City, Indiana, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Uniontown, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, Moundsville, New Martinsville, Fairmont, and Morgantown 1239 PM EST Wed Dec 23 2020 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THURSDAY TO 1 PM EST FRIDAY... * WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5 inches. * WHERE...Portions of northwest, southwest and western Pennsylvania and northern and the northern panhandle of West Virginia. * WHEN...From 7 PM Thursday to 1 PM EST Friday. * IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning commute. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Slow down and use caution while traveling. Please report snow or ice by calling 412-262-1988, posting to the NWS Pittsburgh Facebook page, or using Twitter @NWSPittsburgh The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation and Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission remind motorists to adjust speeds based on driving conditions as winter weather impacts Pennsylvania roadways. Visit www.511pa.com for the latest travel, roadway and traffic conditions. && $$ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 This might be Mr. Obvious here, but it's unusual for PBZ to issue a WWA this early. Thinking holiday travel is the reason for the extended lead time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Euro has us at like 5-7ish fwiw. Granted that is using a 10-1 ratio which most likely will not occur at least at first. Regardless when was our last White Christmas. Seems like every year I'm in shorts that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Euro has us at like 5-7ish fwiw. Granted that is using a 10-1 ratio which most likely will not occur at least at first. Regardless when was our last White Christmas. Seems like every year I'm in shorts that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghPirates27 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Euro has us at like 5-7ish fwiw. Granted that is using a 10-1 ratio which most likely will not occur at least at first. Regardless when was our last White Christmas. Seems like every year I'm in shorts that day. I think we had one a few years ago? Other than that the last one I remember was way back in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Euro has us at like 5-7ish fwiw. Granted that is using a 10-1 ratio which most likely will not occur at least at first. Regardless when was our last White Christmas. Seems like every year I'm in shorts that day. 2017 we had 1.4” I believe early in the morning. 2010 had snow on the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 So can we get a 30 inch December? What is the December record? I know there are other storm chances before the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: So can we get a 30 inch December? What is the December record? I know there are other storm chances before the end of the year. December record 36.3", probably a stretch, #2 however, is just over 26", maybe a #2 December! All models, long and short range seem to paint 3"-6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 18z NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCity87 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I just never understand why they put out graphics showing a certain number then put out an entirely different total in the advisory/warnings. They flip flopped the warning last week 3 times in a day. 5-9" to 4-8" then right back to 6-9". Very minor changes but why even bother? Some differing opinions in that office it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 When does the HRRR start to come into play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, ChalkHillSnowNut said: When does the HRRR start to come into play? Tomorrow morning is my guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 When does the HRRR start to come into play? 00z tonight will give you that 36 hr run. Not sure how great the model performs that far out though. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 The 18z hrrr 36 hours has us 3-5 in that time period. Maybe not accurate that far out but it gives us a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 It would be really wonderful if weather.gov fixed their radar not loading.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 DT claims 6" for all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecanem Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Wow that would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mailman said: DT claims 6" for all. Seems a little far east, no? Most guidance seems better for Eastern Ohio, but either way. Looks good here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecanem Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Ahoff said: Seems a little far east, no? Most guidance seems better for Eastern Ohio, but either way. Looks good here. 0z NAM looks like a track right on that patch. Looks like a jackpot for us. Hopefully it holds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCity87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 It's times like these where I miss the old Weather Channel. Nothing brought me more joy as a child than seeing that orange warning scroll across the bottom of the screen Back then 3-6 was warning criteria. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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