HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: Lots of room to ski for our VT skiing homies. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of COVID. I would anticipate reduction in skiers will mean reduction in things like snowmaking and grooming, fewer lifts running etc... More space but some downsides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, dendrite said: Buds are beginning to swell. seriously though ... is this possible - in 2011 ... my forsythias took off around 2nd week of November ...and I can't recall if flowers popped but those, and other shrubbery types too, did swell and split and half mutilated young leafs sort of half committed - the sun was week so I don't know what the bio-molecular response is between temperature vs sun angle/irradiance triggering... Anyway, it was sort of 'meme' ed as a second green up back then and others noted this around the landscape... after the early cold and snows of Halloween .... That I think was a more profoundly cold span of time ... This deal the other day ... seems it was like that day ...then this CAA windy jive that's already pulling out... Tomorrow still has the look of an impressive diurnal but I don't know how much decoupling tonight. Pretty striking warm frontal translation on the charts during the morning afternoon tomorrow so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: The leaves are getting that "leathery" look... Strange because my forsythia are blooming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Late to the party but finally got my first measurable snowfall of the season. About and 1” so far. Still nice to see. After this it’s tank-tops and irocs for a while it seems #NovaScotiaStrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I would anticipate reduction in skiers will mean reduction in things like snowmaking and grooming, fewer lifts running etc... More space but some downsides It might work out OK for the locals up there who are just skiing and riding, but the outlook for the employees and economic community that relies on out-of-state visitors may not like it so much. And it isn’t like there aren’t other options for mountains. NH is right next door. Skiing seems like a low-risk activity to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Poor Freak. The guy will be riding lifts up and down all day alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Maybe Killington will try to secede from Vermont again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, PhineasC said: It might work out OK for the locals up there who are just skiing and riding, but the outlook for the employees and economic community that relies on out-of-state visitors may not like it so much. And it isn’t like there aren’t other options for mountains. NH is right next door. Skiing seems like a low-risk activity to me. Skiing itself certainly seems low risk. Lodges/resort bars/locker rooms/bathrooms are an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Skiing itself certainly seems low risk. Lodges/resort bars/locker rooms/bathrooms are an issue. They generate so much revenue inside the lodges and that will be the bitter financial pill for them to swallow this winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I am looking forward to one or two more outdoor dining experiences with the family this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Others agree.. SED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I am looking forward to one or two more outdoor dining experiences with the family this weekend. Right through mid week next week really. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I am looking forward to one or two more outdoor dining experiences with the family this weekend. We have the rest of the month and if Ray is right that the pig shows up in Jan-Feb, we have a good chunk of mid winter to do it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: We have the rest of the month and if Ray is right that the pig shows up in Jan-Feb, we have a good chunk of mid winter to do it as well. We Mid-Atlantic our way through winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: VT should just come out and say “if you are not from here stay away.” They have Coos County NH in the red too. That’s just silly. It’s hard to expect people to roll the dice and go anyway because you never know when they will suddenly begin enforcing these rules. Hasn’t stopped anyone yet. It’s the same thing all those fall foliage tourists signed when they checked into hotels all summer. I heard the state did >80% normal summer/fall tourism with all the “restrictions” so we’ll see what winter brings. There’s really nothing “new.” Getting crazy though. Mass has COVID curfews (better be home by 10pm), NY requires a test travelers, gonna shut ‘er down again. The restrictions are coming back it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Poor Freak. The guy will be riding lifts up and down all day alone You don’t ski do you? Lol. Half the skiers would be fine if the lifts didn’t run. The mountain was tracked out by 8am this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It looks like it’s about a 7-8 period in a row of 72-80 or 81, depending on location . Shorts everyday into mid November before it gets cold Tgiving week forcing everyone inside where they should be at that time of year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: It looks like it’s about a 7-8 period in a row of 72-80 or 81, depending on location . Shorts everyday into mid November before it gets cold Tgiving week forcing everyone inside where they should be at that time of year. I’m looking forward to shorts again to be honest lol. 60F will feel like summer again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I would anticipate reduction in skiers will mean reduction in things like snowmaking and grooming, fewer lifts running etc... More space but some downsides Just wait till people see the photos of lift lines this winter... they’ll want no part of that. That place that opened in Quebec was only local pass holders and the liftline was 30-40 minutes for a 3-min ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Poor Freak. The guy will be riding lifts up and down all day alone I'm sure he'll be ok with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, Lava Rock said: I'm sure he'll be ok with that That’s a nightly dream. But I know Kev doesn’t ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 So great to have the data an hour early! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Hasn’t stopped anyone yet. It’s the same thing all those fall foliage tourists signed when they checked into hotels all summer. I heard the state did >80% normal summer/fall tourism with all the “restrictions” so we’ll see what winter brings. There’s really nothing “new.” Getting crazy though. Mass has COVID curfews (better be home by 10pm), NY requires a test travelers, gonna shut ‘er down again. The restrictions are coming back it seems. I don't think they were actively requiring day trip leaf peepers to sign waivers and hand over a bunch of contact information, though. Yes, people can simply ignore these state guidelines, but they seem more black and white and direct than we have seen so far. The proof will be in the numbers, though, as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Just wait till people see the photos of lift lines this winter... they’ll want no part of that. That place that opened in Quebec was only local pass holders and the liftline was 30-40 minutes for a 3-min ride. Why would they be longer than normal? I guess they won't be filling the seats unless it is a family group... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, MaineJayhawk said: Lots of room to ski for our VT skiing homies. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of COVID. Thank you Mrs. Garrett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, mreaves said: Thank you Mrs. Garrett I wonder how the heads of Will and Freak would look on the bodies of Blair and Jo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: I wonder how the heads of Will and Freak would look on the bodies of Blair and Jo Will has to be Ms. Garrett. He seems like he's the house mother around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: We have the rest of the month and if Ray is right that the pig shows up in Jan-Feb, we have a good chunk of mid winter to do it as well. I finished today. Just going to take until the weekend with the snowfall forecast....no sense burying it on election week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I finished today. Just going to take until the weekend with the snowfall forecast....no sense burying it on election week. Snow, burying, I see what you did there! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 52 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Why would they be longer than normal? I guess they won't be filling the seats unless it is a family group... Bingo. You ride a lift with who you show up with. Lift capacity will likely be 50% of normal, just like what led to mile long lines at summer gondola operations. So here’s the thing, the resorts are not set up to operate at 100% this season. Like this summer they were set up to accommodate like 60% of normal visitors but 80-100% came and it was a poor experience. The places were overrun, long lines, traffic, etc. Its the same this winter, they are planning for reduced visitors so if the full boat of visitors show up it’s going to be like getting caught with your pants down. Lift lines have been massive everywhere that’s started skiing or even tried it last summer. The resorts in the Alps opened for two days before the optics of massive lines were so bad the gov’t forced them to close. I still think the resorts are being set up to handle only limited amounts of skiers and the fear is still that *too many* show up and they aren’t prepared to manage that crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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