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MO/KS/AR/OK 2020-2021 "Winter" Discussion


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From Norman 

...WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK...

A significant snowstorm is expected to begin Saturday night in
northwest Oklahoma, then spread quickly southeast through the day
on Sunday. The heaviest snowfall will probably occur Sunday night
and early Monday. Snowfall totals of 5 to 10 inches will be the
rule, with higher amounts in some areas. The "dry" nature of the
snow will make it particularly susceptible to being blown around
by the wind, and drifting snow is likely. Near-blizzard conditions
may occur in unprotected areas Sunday night and Monday.

In addition to the snow, very cold weather and moderate winds will
produce dangerously cold wind chills throughout Oklahoma and
north Texas from Saturday through Tuesday.

Please refer to our Hazardous Weather Outlook for additional
details.
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Looks like 12z GFS was a bit of a snowfall upgrade for most compared to the 06z, but still a tad less than 00z. Getting close to that period in model land where it is hard for them to be off astronomically. Meteorology is often a humbling science. In this case, the difference between 6" of snow and over a foot of snow comes down to nebulous details of isobars several thousands of feet up in the atmosphere, in addition to other mostly nuanced factors.

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1 minute ago, jojo762 said:

Looks like 12z GFS was a bit of a snowfall upgrade for most compared to the 06z, but still a tad less than 00z. Getting close to that period in model land where it is hard for them to be off astronomically. 

It’s hard not to already be excited about the possibilities even though there are plenty of opportunities to screw us over.  The GFS has stood its ground since at least Monday.   Maybe we can all breathe a bit easier in about 48 hours once this gets sampled.  I’ll admit it, I’m giddy...

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1 minute ago, JoMo said:

The main failure point would be a weaker wave that doesn't take on a neutral/neg tilt. If this is just a positive open trough, then that wouldn't be good for big snow totals. 

Thankfully the Canadian is mostly on an island of its own wrt a weaker less amplified wave... Not to say that it couldn't end up winning on this system vs the other globals, but just seems unlikely. 

Seems like the 84hr NAM is more like the Euro/GFS, as well...

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11 minutes ago, Solution Man said:

Will file it under U for unbelievable. No way the KC region sniffs 2ft of snow. Everything slides south or goes north around here. Thanks for sharing

Yup. Just hoping to sneak a coating to an inch Friday night and an inch or two Sunday and then let it warm up lol.

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1 minute ago, Solution Man said:

Agree, kind of brutal when you have the climate and can’t snow

Not looking forward to AWFUL roads again. The roads on Sunday/Monday were brutal across most of the metro, even in Johnson County which typically does a great job plowing and keeping roads clear.

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