Fall/Winter 2020/21 Banter Thread

[Cary67]

5 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said:

I saw the footage this morning. The prisoner escaped while the company driver was ordering at a McDonald's drive-thru.

Yep then lied that the prisoner escaped through the window when all he did was open the back door. No leg shackles just hand cuffs. Just ran off. Have to admit before the era of surveillance cameras,  body cameras, and cellphone videos just how much lying, corruption, and covering up were police departments engaged in. Scary to speculate

[A-L-E-K]

I am and always will be pro prisoner escape, you make it out, you should be free to go

[Cary67]

3 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said:

From the LR thread:

A clipper miss to the north and the rinse repeat El Nino track providing winter from Detroit and Central Ohio and pts east through the end of the month. Outside of the 2 day rainer giving us all our December precip its been warm and dry since late October.

I feel like storm systems used to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and then raise hell (winter + severe) from there to the east coast throughout winter and spring. For the better part of the last decade it seems like everything forms/intensifies east of us. The only impact events the Midwest gets anymore are sneaky mesoscale accidents like the August derecho.

Very little phasing. Things blow up east on the coast due to the ocean.  Right now trough set up to the east allows alot of weak clippers to blow up once off the coast of NE

[CheeselandSkies]

4 minutes ago, Cary67 said:

Yep then lied that the prisoner escaped through the window when all he did was open the back door. No leg shackles just hand cuffs. Just ran off. Have to admit before the era of surveillance cameras,  body cameras, and cellphone videos just how much lying, corruption, and covering up were police departments engaged in. Scary to speculate

Yikes. They didn't even put the "child" locks on to prevent him from doing that.

[WaryWarren]

Private sector ftw.

[nwohweather]

Unreal via sat photo of this Nor Easter

[Snowstorms]

You know the weather sucks when we’re talking about prison breakers. 

[BuffaloWeather]

6 hours ago, Stebo said:

Last report they were at 33.8" as of 45 mins ago with 14.7 falling in 2 hours and 45 mins. Absolutely insane for a synoptic storm.

Just crazy totals in central NY. Look at these 3 hours. I didn't know this was possible in NY from synoptic.

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BGM

...New York...

...Broome County...
2 SW Nws Binghamton          41.0 in   0640 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Vestal                       41.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Public
2 S Binghamton               41.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Public
Endicott                     40.5 in   0550 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
2 E Vestal                   40.2 in   0700 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
2 SW Vestal Center           40.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Nws Binghamton               39.6 in   0700 AM 12/17   Official NWS Obs
West Corners                 39.5 in   0649 AM 12/17   Public
Endwell                      37.0 in   0622 AM 12/17   Public
Chenango Bridge              36.0 in   0742 AM 12/17   Public
2 SSE Vestal Center          35.0 in   0747 AM 12/17   Public
Binghamton                   30.5 in   0715 AM 12/17   Public
Lisle                        30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
Port Dickinson               30.0 in   0703 AM 12/17   Public
Nanticoke                    29.0 in   0636 AM 12/17   Public
2 NNW Port Crane             28.6 in   0615 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Kirkwood                     24.0 in   0625 AM 12/17   Public
2 ENE Lisle                  23.0 in   0721 AM 12/17   Public

 

...Tioga County...
2 SE Newark Valley           44.0 in   0700 AM 12/17   Public
Owego                        40.0 in   0815 AM 12/17   Public
1 N Foster                   38.0 in   0630 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Tioga Terrace                36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Waverly                      32.0 in   0748 AM 12/17   Public
Lockwood                     26.0 in   0631 AM 12/17   Public
Berkshire                    25.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter

...Pennsylvania...

...Bradford County...
Litchfield                   43.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
Troy                         36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Sayre                        32.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
1 S Sayre                    31.0 in   0545 AM 12/17   Public
Ridgebury                    31.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
Towanda                      30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public

 

[Snowstorms]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Just crazy totals in central NY. Look at these 3 hours. I didn't know this was possible in NY from synoptic.

https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BGM

...New York...

...Broome County...
2 SW Nws Binghamton          41.0 in   0640 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Vestal                       41.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Public
2 S Binghamton               41.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Public
Endicott                     40.5 in   0550 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
2 E Vestal                   40.2 in   0700 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
2 SW Vestal Center           40.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Nws Binghamton               39.6 in   0700 AM 12/17   Official NWS Obs
West Corners                 39.5 in   0649 AM 12/17   Public
Endwell                      37.0 in   0622 AM 12/17   Public
Chenango Bridge              36.0 in   0742 AM 12/17   Public
2 SSE Vestal Center          35.0 in   0747 AM 12/17   Public
Binghamton                   30.5 in   0715 AM 12/17   Public
Lisle                        30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public
Port Dickinson               30.0 in   0703 AM 12/17   Public
Nanticoke                    29.0 in   0636 AM 12/17   Public
2 NNW Port Crane             28.6 in   0615 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Kirkwood                     24.0 in   0625 AM 12/17   Public
2 ENE Lisle                  23.0 in   0721 AM 12/17   Public

 

...Tioga County...
2 SE Newark Valley           44.0 in   0700 AM 12/17   Public
Owego                        40.0 in   0815 AM 12/17   Public
1 N Foster                   38.0 in   0630 AM 12/17   NWS Employee
Tioga Terrace                36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Waverly                      32.0 in   0748 AM 12/17   Public
Lockwood                     26.0 in   0631 AM 12/17   Public
Berkshire                    25.0 in   0730 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter

...Pennsylvania...

...Bradford County...
Litchfield                   43.0 in   0800 AM 12/17   Trained Spotter
Troy                         36.0 in   0600 AM 12/17   Public
Sayre                        32.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
1 S Sayre                    31.0 in   0545 AM 12/17   Public
Ridgebury                    31.0 in   0647 AM 12/17   Public
Towanda                      30.0 in   0626 AM 12/17   Public

 

That's just nuts. 40" and all synoptic. Even crazier when you step back and realize it all fell within 24 hours. 40" wow! Our seasonal average is 45". They got 95% of our average in one go. Why couldn't this storm be another 150-200 miles further west? I'd happy if we even get half that in a storm this winter lol. Seems impossible.   

[BuffaloWeather]

1 minute ago, Snowstorms said:

That's just nuts. 40" and all synoptic. Even crazier when you step back and realize it all fell within 24 hours. 40" wow! Our seasonal average is 45". They got 95% of our average in one go. Why couldn't this storm be another 150-200 miles further west? I'd happy if we even get half that in a storm this winter lol. Seems impossible.   

A poster from Upstate has a 44-45" snow depth, he likely got 50". Just insanity. It blew Binghamtons all timer snowstorm by like a foot.

[Snowstorms]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

A poster from Upstate has a 44-45" snow depth, he likely got 50". Just insanity. It blew Binghamtons all timer snowstorm by like a foot.

That’s crazy. The only storm that comes to my mind that is comparable in amounts is probably the Blizzard of 93. And that storm was 2-3x the size of this one.  Give me a storm like this in Jan or Feb. Thanks! 

[BuffaloWeather]

15 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

That’s crazy. The only storm that comes to my mind that is comparable in amounts is probably the Blizzard of 93. And that storm was 2-3x the size of this one.  Give me a storm like this in Jan or Feb. Thanks! 

Just put together the radar for the storm, just insane. 3-6" rates

 

[mississaugasnow]

17 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

That’s crazy. The only storm that comes to my mind that is comparable in amounts is probably the Blizzard of 93. And that storm was 2-3x the size of this one.  Give me a storm like this in Jan or Feb. Thanks! 

Did you get much last night? Though sucks to miss the main storm, woke up to 1.5" of powdery snow. With the snow cover -5C and grey overcast skies its my perfect winter morning. Unlike all the other storms this year, this one actually has a winter feel to it. The other ones felt more spring like with temperatures rising back to above 0C once the snow stopped. 

[madwx]

1 hour ago, CheeselandSkies said:

From the LR thread:

A clipper miss to the north and the rinse repeat El Nino track providing winter from Detroit and Central Ohio and pts east through the end of the month. Outside of the 2 day rainer giving us all our December precip its been warm and dry since late October.

I feel like storm systems used to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and then raise hell (winter + severe) from there to the east coast throughout winter and spring. For the better part of the last decade it seems like everything forms/intensifies east of us. The only impact events the Midwest gets anymore are sneaky mesoscale accidents like the August derecho.

meh, 2007-14 really skewed perception.  If you think about 2000-2005 or the 90s you realize it all balances out.  

[Snowstorms]

51 minutes ago, mississaugasnow said:

Did you get much last night? Though sucks to miss the main storm, woke up to 1.5" of powdery snow. With the snow cover -5C and grey overcast skies its my perfect winter morning. Unlike all the other storms this year, this one actually has a winter feel to it. The other ones felt more spring like with temperatures rising back to above 0C once the snow stopped. 

Got like 2.2cm (0.9") so you beat me this time. 

I agree. There was a nice winter feel this morning, but it'll be back above freezing by this weekend. We need a nice widespread storm like Feb 2013. Tired of all the disappointing Decembers we've been experiencing. 

[BuffaloWeather]

 

[Hoosier]

Crazy storm out there.  And I don't know about you but I take slight satisfaction that those kind of totals happened well inland and not in the I-95 cities.  

[OrdIowPitMsp]

14 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Crazy storm out there.  And I don't know about you but I take slight satisfaction that those kind of totals happened well inland and not in the I-95 cities.  

Yeah I’m with you on that, moral victory. Although I did go to NYC for the January 2016 storm and also don’t want that record broken. 

[Kitchener poster]

12 hours ago, Stebo said:

I had to post this here when I saw it, thanks to @andyhb for bringing it to my attention. Binghamton NY's ob

KBGM 170553Z AUTO 1/4SM +SN FZFG VV002 M09/M11 A2985 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 3/4 SLP136 P0040 60120 T10891106 11072 21089 58023 RVRNO

.40 liquid in one hour 1.20 in 6. Even at 10:1 you are talking 4" per hour that hour and 2" per hour in 6 hours. But that is at 10:1. Notice the temp/dew -9c/-11c. You are almost assuredly having higher than 10:1 ratios. Even at 12:1 thats 4.8" and 14.4 in 1/6 hours.

My wife’s family lives in Binghamton. They finished with just over 24 inches. I’m bummed because in a non Covid year I would have been there. I absolutely would have started my holiday a few days early to enjoy that blockbuster storm. 

[madwx]

1 hour ago, Angrysummons said:

Even worse for the east coast establishment, is the ocean was drained by this storm. They will need some actual phasing in the future............something this winter does not like to do. That said, this was a miss for a lot. The overrunning was very contained.

I heard you can walk to the Titanic now

[michsnowfreak]

3 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Crazy storm out there.  And I don't know about you but I take slight satisfaction that those kind of totals happened well inland and not in the I-95 cities.  

if a storm of that type happened in this subforum, even a watered down version, you'd have some mighty unhappy posters and some ecstatic ones lol. A death band of 35-40" with a pedestrian foot just a short distance away. 

[BuffaloWeather]

15 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

if a storm of that type happened in this subforum, even a watered down version, you'd have some mighty unhappy posters and some ecstatic ones lol. A death band of 35-40" with a pedestrian foot just a short distance away. 

Looks pretty spread out to me.

[michsnowfreak]

31 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Looks pretty spread out to me.

I just meant a death band sets up anyone outside of it will be jealous. 

[Stebo]

5 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Crazy storm out there.  And I don't know about you but I take slight satisfaction that those kind of totals happened well inland and not in the I-95 cities.  

Absolutely, there is a bit of joy there.

[Stebo]

2 hours ago, madwx said:

I heard you can walk to the Titanic now

[weatherbo]

Where do I send the check?

[mimillman]

1 hour ago, weatherbo said:

Where do I send the check?

Need the snow up by you! Otherwise, my snowmobiling trip is gonna go bust...

[mimillman]

3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

if a storm of that type happened in this subforum, even a watered down version, you'd have some mighty unhappy posters and some ecstatic ones lol. A death band of 35-40" with a pedestrian foot just a short distance away. 

We get that all the time. It’s called lake effect

 

[RCNYILWX]

Chicago hasn't had a 6"+ calendar day snowfall since 2/9/18. The last 6"+ snowstorm was 11/26-27/18. Was thinking about that in context of how NYC didn't get as much as some of the earlier model progs, but Central Park still got 10.5", which was their largest December storm since Boxing Day 2010.

 

The last double digit snowfall at ORD was 11/20-21/15 and the last double digit snowfall during met winter was GHD II. Obviously major events are a lot less common out here than the east coast but we're seriously overdue. December has become a feast or famine month locally, mostly famine since 2010, with only 2010, 2013, and 2016 featuring above normal snow. The prior decade on the other hand had some very big Decembers (with also a few lean years), none more so than 2000. We won't be able to finalize what the December normal will be for the '90-'20 climate normal period until this month ends but prelim data is the December average/normal will drop to 7.5" from 8.2".

 

 

 

 

[Hoosier]

51 minutes ago, RCNYILWX said:

Chicago hasn't had a 6"+ calendar day snowfall since 2/9/18. The last 6"+ snowstorm was 11/26-27/18. Was thinking about that in context of how NYC didn't get as much as some of the earlier model progs, but Central Park still got 10.5", which was their largest December storm since Boxing Day 2010.

 

The last double digit snowfall at ORD was 11/20-21/15 and the last double digit snowfall during met winter was GHD II. Obviously major events are a lot less common out here than the east coast but we're seriously overdue. December has become a feast or famine month locally, mostly famine since 2010, with only 2010, 2013, and 2016 featuring above normal snow. The prior decade on the other hand had some very big Decembers (with also a few lean years), none more so than 2000. We won't be able to finalize what the December normal will be for the '90-'20 climate normal period until this month ends but prelim data is the December average/normal will drop to 7.5" from 8.2".

 

 

 

 

I think the return rate on 10"+ storms for Chicago is like once every 2.5 to 3 years, but I could be a little off.  If that is right, then yeah, you could say that we're "due"