tiger_deF Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Looks like an eye might be popping out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Jon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Griizzcoat said: The cart before the horse so to say, but can a greek letter , "Delta" - in this case be retired? And if so- replaced with what? Never had this stuff in MET school. Just saying.../. it's never happened before. If the models are correct it should prove to be a topic of conversation at the post-season conference. The current models have delta hitting the delta with the only question being the delta-v. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 HMON and HWRF in perfect agreement with a 929mb low over Cancun. HMON is a few hours faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, tiger_deF said: Looks like an eye might be popping out You would've saved calories by not posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hlcater Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, tiger_deF said: no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Needs to shed the tumor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It's always a race to see who can say they "see an eye developing" first in hopes of being right, I swear. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 82 kt SFMR this pass 968 or 969 mb from the latest dropsonde Despite the continued deepening, Grand Cayman radar still does not show a great eye presentation, and satellite shows a lack of outflow to the east and south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Up to 100mph now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioWX Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Radar presentation has improved. NHC is now forecasting Delta to reach category 4 before landfall near Cancun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Not the most classic looking on IR. Sort of oblong shaped with it being squeezed from the east. Not sure if that ridge pushing in will have an effect or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Not the most classic looking on IR. Sort of oblong shaped with it being squeezed from the east. Not sure if that ridge pushing in will have an effect or not. Maybe somewhat improved from earlier though? It lost the big convective blob to the south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Interesting statement i bolded in the 5am disco from Blake Hurricane Delta Discussion Number 7 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL262020 500 AM EDT Tue Oct 06 2020 Delta has maintained a very deep central dense overcast during the past several hours, with overshooting cloud-top temperatures to -90C, and perhaps hints of an eye trying to emerge. On the last pass through the center, the Air Force plane reported a 4-mb pressure fall in one hour to 968 mb, with believable SFMR values of 80-85 kt. Thus, the initial wind speed is set to 85 kt. The hurricane is in the midst of a very impressive rapid intensification episode, having strengthened over 50 kt during the past 24 hours. I honestly don't see much that will stop it until it reaches Yucatan, due to low vertical wind shear, high deep-layer moisture, and the very warm and deep waters of the northwestern Caribbean. This is also supported by SHIPS rapid intensification probabilities that are well above 50 percent for most categories. Thus, the intensity forecast is raised to 115 kt near Yucatan landfall, closest to the HWRF forecast model, which has been a good performer this year, especially after ingesting NOAA radar data. Some weakening is expected due to land interaction, but conditions look ripe for re-intensification over the Gulf of Mexico. Almost all the guidance is higher, now showing Delta reaching category 4 status in the 2-to-3 day time frame, and the new NHC intensity forecast reflects this likelihood. However, an increase in southwesterly shear and cooler shelf waters near the northern Gulf coast should promote weakening, and little change has been made to the intensity forecast near landfall. Delta is moving much faster this morning to the west-northwest, with the latest estimates at about 13 kt. A strengthening mid-level ridge across Florida should steer the hurricane to the west-northwest or northwest during the next couple of days. Likely because of the deterioration of Gamma, model guidance is showing less poleward motion before Yucatan, and the official track is shifted to the west for the first day or so. Over the Gulf of Mexico, Delta should slow down and turn northward ahead of a trough moving eastward across Texas in a few days. Model guidance has again shifted westward, like the last cycle, and the official forecast is trended in that direction. However, it remains slightly east of the model consensus, due to a notable westward bias in some of the guidance during this hurricane season. Users are reminded to not focus on the details of the track or intensity forecasts, as the average 4-day track error is around 150 miles and the average 4-day intensity error is close to 15 mph. Key Messages: 1. Extremely dangerous storm surge and hurricane conditions are expected within portions of the northern Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico beginning tonight, and a Hurricane Warning is in effect. 2. Heavy rainfall will affect portions of the Cayman Islands, western Cuba and the northern Yucatan Peninsula through midweek. This rainfall could lead to significant flash flooding and mudslides. The potential for heavy rain and flash flooding will increase across portions of the central Gulf Coast, Tennessee Valley, and southeastern United States as Delta moves inland later this week. 3. Delta is forecast to approach the northern Gulf Coast late this week as a hurricane. While there is large uncertainty in the track and intensity forecasts, there is a significant risk of dangerous storm surge, wind, and rainfall hazards along the coast from Louisiana to the western Florida Panhandle beginning Thursday night or Friday. Residents in these areas should ensure they have their hurricane plan in place and monitor updates to the forecast of Delta. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 06/0900Z 17.5N 81.3W 85 KT 100 MPH 12H 06/1800Z 18.7N 83.1W 100 KT 115 MPH 24H 07/0600Z 20.4N 85.8W 115 KT 130 MPH 36H 07/1800Z 21.8N 88.5W 105 KT 120 MPH 48H 08/0600Z 23.0N 90.4W 110 KT 125 MPH 60H 08/1800Z 24.2N 91.5W 115 KT 130 MPH 72H 09/0600Z 25.8N 92.0W 110 KT 125 MPH 96H 10/0600Z 29.8N 91.1W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND 120H 11/0600Z 34.0N 88.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Blake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, yoda said: Interesting statement i bolded in the 5am disco from Blake Hurricane Delta Discussion Number 7 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL262020 500 AM EDT Tue Oct 06 2020 Delta has maintained a very deep central dense overcast during the past several hours, with overshooting cloud-top temperatures to -90C, and perhaps hints of an eye trying to emerge. On the last pass through the center, the Air Force plane reported a 4-mb pressure fall in one hour to 968 mb, with believable SFMR values of 80-85 kt. Thus, the initial wind speed is set to 85 kt. The hurricane is in the midst of a very impressive rapid intensification episode, having strengthened over 50 kt during the past 24 hours. I honestly don't see much that will stop it until it reaches Yucatan, due to low vertical wind shear, high deep-layer moisture, and the very warm and deep waters of the northwestern Caribbean. This is also supported by SHIPS rapid intensification probabilities that are well above 50 percent for most categories. Thus, the intensity forecast is raised to 115 kt near Yucatan landfall, closest to the HWRF forecast model, which has been a good performer this year, especially after ingesting NOAA radar data. Some weakening is expected due to land interaction, but conditions look ripe for re-intensification over the Gulf of Mexico. Almost all the guidance is higher, now showing Delta reaching category 4 status in the 2-to-3 day time frame, and the new NHC intensity forecast reflects this likelihood. However, an increase in southwesterly shear and cooler shelf waters near the northern Gulf coast should promote weakening, and little change has been made to the intensity forecast near landfall. Delta is moving much faster this morning to the west-northwest, with the latest estimates at about 13 kt. A strengthening mid-level ridge across Florida should steer the hurricane to the west-northwest or northwest during the next couple of days. Likely because of the deterioration of Gamma, model guidance is showing less poleward motion before Yucatan, and the official track is shifted to the west for the first day or so. Over the Gulf of Mexico, Delta should slow down and turn northward ahead of a trough moving eastward across Texas in a few days. Model guidance has again shifted westward, like the last cycle, and the official forecast is trended in that direction. However, it remains slightly east of the model consensus, due to a notable westward bias in some of the guidance during this hurricane season. Users are reminded to not focus on the details of the track or intensity forecasts, as the average 4-day track error is around 150 miles and the average 4-day intensity error is close to 15 mph. Key Messages: 1. Extremely dangerous storm surge and hurricane conditions are expected within portions of the northern Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico beginning tonight, and a Hurricane Warning is in effect. 2. Heavy rainfall will affect portions of the Cayman Islands, western Cuba and the northern Yucatan Peninsula through midweek. This rainfall could lead to significant flash flooding and mudslides. The potential for heavy rain and flash flooding will increase across portions of the central Gulf Coast, Tennessee Valley, and southeastern United States as Delta moves inland later this week. 3. Delta is forecast to approach the northern Gulf Coast late this week as a hurricane. While there is large uncertainty in the track and intensity forecasts, there is a significant risk of dangerous storm surge, wind, and rainfall hazards along the coast from Louisiana to the western Florida Panhandle beginning Thursday night or Friday. Residents in these areas should ensure they have their hurricane plan in place and monitor updates to the forecast of Delta. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 06/0900Z 17.5N 81.3W 85 KT 100 MPH 12H 06/1800Z 18.7N 83.1W 100 KT 115 MPH 24H 07/0600Z 20.4N 85.8W 115 KT 130 MPH 36H 07/1800Z 21.8N 88.5W 105 KT 120 MPH 48H 08/0600Z 23.0N 90.4W 110 KT 125 MPH 60H 08/1800Z 24.2N 91.5W 115 KT 130 MPH 72H 09/0600Z 25.8N 92.0W 110 KT 125 MPH 96H 10/0600Z 29.8N 91.1W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND 120H 11/0600Z 34.0N 88.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Blake Euro has had an awful west bias this season with all tropicals across the globe. Not good at all this season. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Heck of a burst in the southern eyewall 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Superstorm93 said: Heck of a burst in the southern eyewall Recon will be heading in soon. May very well find the most dramatic strengthening yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmators Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 959.4 extrap 107 mph surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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weatherCCB Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I also think the sky the limit with this. Again let’s hope the models weakening this at landfall are correct. Either way, looks like big surge threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Regardless of effects on the Gulf Coast, this is looking like it could be a bad hit to the NE Yucatan. Would be worst hit for that area since Wilma in 2005. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 And now we're up 60 knots since 8am yesterday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 RIP Señor Frog's 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yeah it's starting to look like the eye is getting more defined and trying to clear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The core is only about 40 miles across. With a little under 24 hrs until landfall, I expect it to make a run at cat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Regardless of effects on the Gulf Coast, this is looking like it could be a bad hit to the NE Yucatan. Would be worst hit for that area since Wilma in 2005. what's the population like in that area? Thinking sparsely populated outside of cancun and cozumel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 You can plainly see the small 6-8nm eye is merely obscured by high cirrus. That should clear out as the day progresses. This is a very small eyewall though. It's a little tough to forecast internal structural changes with such a tiny eye. An intense convective burst could even widen the eyeband and the eye could get larger without a traditional ERC. We've seen eyes get larger without an ERC. But 24 hrs is a long time when you have a rapidly intensifying core. MW doesn't reveal strong enough concentric banding for a new much larger eyewall to yet form. So really, Delta could very well make a run at Cat 5 prior to a NE Yucatán impact. It should still be a compact hurricane and core regardless of eyeband fluctuations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Pretty scary that we're continuing to see model intensity guidance bump in the stronger direction. I agree with @WxWatcher007 too...not very sold on the rapid weakening prior to LF. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltimorewx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: what's the population like in that area? Thinking sparsely populated outside of cancun and cozumel.... Cancún is pretty heavily populated and with the track it looks like it could go right over the barrier island where all the resorts are and then downtown Cancún. It won’t be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The eye is only 5 miles wide. One would think an eyewall replacement cycle would occur at some point.Just as an FYI, a statute mile is 1.15 nm. So 5 miles to nm is 5.75 and just rounding to 6nm. That being said, small eyewalls will fluctuate based on micro perturbations of strong meso bursts. That can morph and fluctuate the eyeband a nm or two even when small over short periods of time. Larger eyes do the same but it's obviously less noticeable due to larger diameter and area. Next recon could hypothetically find an even smaller eyewall on next mission, however, it has been reported open in portions of the band. It wouldn't surprise me if it expands a little as deep convection keeps bursting. Again, these small eyewalls are chaotic and futile to predict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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