JasonOH Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Interesting radar loop from the Cayman Islands. It’s super far from radar but it looks like there *may* be an EWRC in progress/finishing up. http://www.weather.gov.ky/portal/page/portal/nwshome/forecasthome/radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 What is the 1-5 day path of this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Jon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, JasonOH said: Interesting radar loop from the Cayman Islands. It’s super far from radar but it looks like there *may* be an EWRC in progress/finishing up. http://www.weather.gov.ky/portal/page/portal/nwshome/forecasthome/radar I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that. I noticed that about an hour ago and figured somebody might comment. Looks like the wind field has expanded too. I was hoping we'd have a recon to confirm or rule it out by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said: You should know when 12z is dude. It’s something even metfan can tell you. It's about #156,000 on the list of most important/relevant knowledge to my career. But I appreciate the "metfan" advice. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Current IR presentation is definitely bottom-tier for a 140mph category 4 hurricane... imagine it’ll improve overnight prior to nailing Cancun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Anyone have the recon plan of the day for today? They updated tomorrow’s plan so the plan for today no longer comes up on the NOAA site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, JasonOH said: Anyone have the recon plan of the day for today? They updated tomorrow’s plan so the plan for today no longer comes up on the NOAA site. Next plane looks to be wheels up at 00z with nearly continuous coverage overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, jojo762 said: Current IR presentation is definitely bottom-tier for a 140mph category 4 hurricane... imagine it’ll improve overnight prior to nailing Cancun. Motion of the cirrus to the east of the system suggests continued easterly shear. This seems to be reflected in the RAMMB shear analysis, which shows about 15 kt currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Models are suggesting that shear will not abate until after landfall. Accordingly, they mostly hold at the current intensity. So I think the show is over in terms of RI prior to landfall. But sub 900 is still possible, right??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, WEATHER53 said: What is the 1-5 day path of this? Delta is forecast to go over the Yucatan Peninsula & reemerge over the south central Gulf. Then it's forecast to go toward the LA coastline Fri pm/Sat am. The cooler water & increased shear should weaken Delta some before the north Gulf landfall. But the strength at its peak will still determine its strength at its final landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 As expected, the inner core/eyewall is a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If you're going to harass a chaser it should probably be Jeff Piotrowski. (edit: please move to banter thread, didn't mean to have it here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, jpeters3 said: Models are suggesting that shear will not abate until after landfall. Accordingly, they mostly hold at the current intensity. So I think the show is over in terms of RI prior to landfall. But sub 900 is still possible, right??? models locked in with that clip of the very NE tip of the Yucatan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Radtechwxman Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, jojo762 said: Current IR presentation is definitely bottom-tier for a 140mph category 4 hurricane... imagine it’ll improve overnight prior to nailing Cancun. Yea if someone showed me the current IR satellite loop and ask me to guess intensity I definitely wouldn't be saying cat 4. Curious if the pressure has come up more and if the winds are lower. Cloud tops still very cold but organization is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 fringe radar image suggests maybe a larger eye trying to take over/absorb the 4nmi wide eye. Regardless, I think intensification is probably done for now. Remains to be seen whether it resumes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Wondering if the pin hole is teetering those cold tops around and causing it to look not as organized and if that second outer ring will ultimately broaden it out in the future cycles. Trend and timing. Going to try to look back on past pin hole radar examples to study their evolution and possible outcomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 145/956 @ 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Similar in size to Hurricane Charlie: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Some intense looking cloud tops starting to pop up around the core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yikes!064 WTNT41 KNHC 062034TCDAT1Hurricane Delta Discussion Number 9NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL262020500 PM EDT Tue Oct 06 2020Shortly after the release of the 1500 UTC advisory package, theNOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft measured a peak flight-level windof 132 kt, and during its final passage through the northeasteyewall around 1700 UTC it reported a peak SFMR wind of 121 kt.The aircraft continued to report an extremely small 4-to-5-nmi-wideeye. The central pressure did level off somewhat on the finalcouple of penetrations, with the latest reported central pressure at 956 mb. The initial wind speed was raised to 120 kt on the earlier intermediate advisory, and has been set at 125 kt for this advisory. The next reconnaissance aircraft mission into the hurricane is scheduled for this evening.There has been no evidence of an outer eyewall from the aircraftreports or earlier radar imagery from Grand Cayman. As a result, some additional strengthening is likely to occur before Delta reaches the northeastern coast of the Yucatan peninsula latetonight or early Wednesday. The NHC intensity forecast is once again a little above the various intensity aids until landfall in Mexico. When the small inner core of Delta moves over land, weakening is expected, but warm waters and low vertical wind shear over the southern Gulf of Mexico should support re-strengthening, and a second peak in intensity is likely when Delta is over the central Gulf of Mexico in 48-60 hours. After that time, increasingsouthwesterly shear and the cooler shelf waters over the northern Gulf are expected to cause some reduction in wind speed. The global models, however, depict a significant increase in the size of Delta's wind field while it is over the Gulf of Mexico, which increases the spatial extent of the storm surge and wind threats for the northern Gulf coast. So regardless of Delta's final landfall intensity, the projected large size of the hurricane is likely to result in a significant storm surge and wind event for portions of the northern Gulf coast later this week.Delta has been moving steadily west-northwestward today at 300/15 kt. The track forecast reasoning remains unchanged from the previous advisory. A mid-level ridge over Florida and the northeastern Gulf of Mexico is expected to continue steering Delta west-northwestward during the next 36-48 hours. After that time, a developing trough over the south-central United States should cause Delta to turn northward, and by Friday the hurricane is forecast to begin accelerating northward or north-northeastward ahead of the trough. This motion will bring Delta onshore along the northern Gulf coast between 72 and 96 hours. The dynamical models continue to be tightly clustered through 48-72 hours with some increase in spread thereafter. The overall trend in the guidance has been slightly westward, and the new forecast has been adjusted accordingly and lies near the middle of the envelope. Supplemental upper-air balloon launches at 0600 and 1800 UTC have begun at upper-air sites across portions of the southeastern United States. In addition, a NOAA G-IV synoptic surveillance mission is in progress and should provide additional data for the 0000 UTC cycle of the dynamical models. Key Messages:1. Life-threatening storm surge and potentially catastrophic wind damage are expected within portions of the northern Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico beginning tonight. All preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion. 2. Heavy rainfall will affect portions of the Cayman Islands, western Cuba and the northern Yucatan Peninsula through midweek. This rainfall could lead to significant flash flooding and mudslides. The potential for heavy rain, flash and possible minor river flooding will increase across portions of the central Gulf Coast, Tennessee Valley, and southeastern United States as Delta moves inland later this week.3. There is an increasing likelihood of life-threatening storm surge and dangerous hurricane-force winds, especially along the coasts of Louisiana and Mississippi, beginning on Friday. Residents in these areas should ensure they have their hurricane plan in place and follow advice given by local officials. Storm surge and hurricane watches will likely be issued for portions of the northern Gulf Coast on Wednesday. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINIT 06/2100Z 18.9N 84.1W 125 KT 145 MPH 12H 07/0600Z 20.2N 86.1W 135 KT 155 MPH 24H 07/1800Z 21.8N 88.8W 105 KT 120 MPH 36H 08/0600Z 23.0N 91.1W 110 KT 125 MPH 48H 08/1800Z 24.4N 92.6W 115 KT 130 MPH 60H 09/0600Z 25.9N 93.2W 115 KT 130 MPH 72H 09/1800Z 28.0N 92.9W 110 KT 125 MPH 96H 10/1800Z 32.4N 90.9W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND120H 11/1800Z 35.5N 87.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, NavarreDon said: 145/956 @ 5 . The pressure is still very high for a 145 mph hurricane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Starting to think the small eye has collapsed but convection is still very intense due to strong banding. Call it an ERC or merely just the tiny eyewall losing integrity and succumbed to stronger outer convective banding but this appears to be morphing into a larger eye. I only say that because it didn't seem to have very dominate outer concentric band earlier on MW. Perhaps just a strong backside band. But it is a tiny 'cane so changes can likely happen over a much shorter period of time since the last scan. Yes, I did read the NHC discussion. Still, it does not look as organized as it was even an hour ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Jon Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, brianc33710 said: The pressure is still very high for a 145 mph hurricane. this was the case with Laura too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The larger eyewall is mostly there. It's just broken on the n/ne side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters3 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said: The larger eyewall is mostly there. It's just broken on the n/ne side. attenuation 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUWX Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Pretty decent uptick in lightning on the SW side. Eye seems slightly more apparent on visible as the sun sets.... *ducks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 This is the ugliest 145mph hurricane I ever laid my eyes on via satellite. Lol. I'm shocked the winds went up. Only in 2020. Despite it being disorganized in the inner core, it still has took advantage of the great environment conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 There's a noticeable fujiwara between Delta and Gamma on the visible the last couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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