Tropical Storm Gamma

[cptcatz]

9 minutes ago, Prospero said:

I decided to look up "Gamma" on the internet, to see what I could learn.

Now I think forever to me, "Gamma" was the tropical storm that was in early October 2020.

First thing I think of is the robot from the video game Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast. 

[Prospero]

17 minutes ago, cptcatz said:

First thing I think of is the robot from the video game Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast. 

That came up in the search results. I'm not knowin' as bout Dreamcast, but that was the most interesting of all results I think. Other than "Gamma" being the third letter of the Greek alphabet, I wish I never looked it up.

TROPICAL STORM GAMMA

That's it for me.

 

[wxmx]

It's moving a bit faster than forecasted. About to get it's feet wet. I think it will get a bit farther north than the forecasted track before turning west, southwest

[Prospero]

16 minutes ago, wxmx said:

It's moving a bit faster than forecasted. About to get it's feet wet. I think it will get a bit farther north than the forecasted track before turning west, southwest

Yea.

Is it "for certain" a hard left is coming?

I see the models.

Not too many years ago storms would take their own path.  I know technology and predictions have improved. But "for sure" a hard left?

[tiger_deF]

I'm really suprised how good Gamma looks right now with all the shear in the gulf 

[wxmx]

That's because that awesome outflow channel is evacuating the upper levels of the cyclone nicely, forcing strong connection to popup over Gamma. The next 24 hours it'll see the strongest shear, relaxing a bit gradually afterwards

[Sam Kane]

Beware of Delta!!

[bowtie`]

12 hours ago, Prospero said:

I decided to look up "Gamma" on the internet, to see what I could learn.

Now I think forever to me, "Gamma" was the tropical storm that was in early October 2020.

100% off-topic but Gamma for me ill always be the Ronnie Montrose (RIP) band whose second album artwork is one of the all-time greatest. The sharkfins in the grass with the sun-bathing feet, fantastic.

[Amped]

2 hours ago, Sam Kane said:

Beware of Delta!!

Gamma did not watch out for Delta this GFS run.

 

[bdgwx]

And on the 6Z parallel GFS it is the other way around. Gamma ends up swallowing up Delta. It does seem like odds are increasing that we see a binary interaction.  

[Amped]

GFS and CMC both make landfall in S MS. 

However they differ on timing, intensity and whether it's Delta or Gamma making landfall.

One of the more interesting model wars I've seen.

[yoda]

Interesting disco tonight

Tropical Storm Gamma Discussion Number  11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL252020
1000 PM CDT Sun Oct 04 2020

Gamma has moved much farther northeast than previously anticipated.
With little in the way of low or mid-level large-scale steering flow
currently in place, it seems likely that upper-level
southwesterlies, also responsible for the shear affecting the
tropical storm, are causing this recent northeastward motion. This
may be either through reformations of the center closer to the
convection or a direct contribution to the net steering. An Air
Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is currently investigating
Gamma and so far has found max SFMR winds of 47 kt but flight level
winds of only 45 kt. Given the data so far, there is no indication
that Gamma is any stronger than the 50 kt intensity, but it seems
prudent to let the plane finish its pattern before lowering the
winds at this time.

Gamma's future track is highly uncertain. The track guidance spread
is much higher than usual, and confidence in the forecast is
accordingly low. Most of the global models indicate that Gamma will
soon begin moving generally west-southwestward as a mid-level ridge
briefly builds over the eastern and central Gulf of Mexico.
Unfortunately, there is little agreement on exactly when this will
happen or how fast Gamma will move once it turns. After about 48 h,
Gamma could interact with Tropical Depression Twenty-Six, which is 
forecast to move over the northwestern Caribbean Sea at that time. 
Current dynamical models are notoriously bad at forecasting such 
interactions, but if the two systems do interact it will likely 
cause Gamma to move inland over the Yucatan.

Whether such an interaction occurs or not, continued shear and 
proximity to land should cause the tropical storm to gradually 
weaken, and Gamma could dissipate if it moves over land (and stays 
there) in a few days, as shown by the GFS. The ECMWF shows the 
vortex remaining over water but dissipating nonetheless, while a 
couple other global models maintain the vortex longer and show it 
moving north over the central Gulf of Mexico late in the forecast 
period. The NHC forecast is a compromise between those solutions, 
showing a remnant low moving north over the southern Gulf of Mexico 
by day 5. In general, the NHC intensity forecast is similar to the 
previous one, but slightly lower to account for the system 
potentially moving inland.

Due to the uncertainty in the forecast at this time, future
advisories may feature larger than normal changes to the track or
intensity forecast. It is also worth noting that several dynamical
model trackers appear to lose Gamma and jump to tracking Tropical 
Depression Twenty-Six when it reaches the Gulf of Mexico, resulting 
in unrealistic depictions of the intensity and track forecasts.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Gamma is expected to produce heavy rainfall for several days over
portions of southeastern Mexico, the Yucatan Peninsula, Central
America, and far western Cuba. This rainfall could result in
life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides, particularly in the
mountainous regions of southeastern Mexico and Central America.

2. Even though Gamma is just offshore, tropical storm conditions
are likely along portions of the northern coast of the Yucatan
Peninsula on Monday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  05/0300Z 22.8N  87.2W   50 KT  60 MPH
 12H  05/1200Z 22.7N  87.7W   45 KT  50 MPH
 24H  06/0000Z 22.3N  88.5W   45 KT  50 MPH
 36H  06/1200Z 21.8N  89.5W   40 KT  45 MPH
 48H  07/0000Z 21.3N  90.3W   40 KT  45 MPH
 60H  07/1200Z 20.3N  90.7W   35 KT  40 MPH
 72H  08/0000Z 20.2N  90.1W   30 KT  35 MPH...INLAND
 96H  09/0000Z 22.0N  90.7W   30 KT  35 MPH...OVER WATER
120H  10/0000Z 24.0N  91.0W   30 KT  35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

$$
Forecaster Zelinsky

[yoda]

What a 5 day track lol

[LawdogGRNJ]

I shudder to think of the destruction Delta will bring considering the massive volume of water Gamma dumped on the Yucatan.  Even in its post tropical state the NHC forecast calls for an additional 8 inches of rain in some regions.  

[CheeselandSkies]

The subtitle of this thread did not age well...

[Gelavis]

This costed us $100 millions guys, that's pretty much!