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50 days and counting...

...HISTORIC PERIOD OF DRY WEATHER CONTINUES AT INDIANAPOLIS...

TODAY...OCTOBER 6...MARKS THE 49TH CONSECUTIVE DAY THAT LESS THAN
A TENTH OF AN INCH HAS FALLEN OFFICIALLY AT INDIANAPOLIS...THE 
LONGEST SUCH STRETCH IN RECORDED HISTORY. WITH JUST A SMALL 
THREAT FOR RAIN THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THIS STREAK 
WILL EXTEND SEVERAL MORE DAYS.

THE TOP FIVE LONGEST CONSECUTIVE STREAKS OF LESS THAN A TENTH OF
AN INCH OF DAILY PRECIPITATION:

1) 49 DAYS: 8/19-10/6/2020  ***ACTIVE*** 
2) 47 DAYS: 6/1-7/17/2012 
T3) 46 DAYS: 12/3/1955-1/17/1956 
T3) 46 DAYS: 8/13-9/27/1908 
5) 44 DAYS: 1/22-3/6/1935 (0.39")
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15 hours ago, IWXwx said:

50 days and counting...

...HISTORIC PERIOD OF DRY WEATHER CONTINUES AT INDIANAPOLIS...

TODAY...OCTOBER 6...MARKS THE 49TH CONSECUTIVE DAY THAT LESS THAN
A TENTH OF AN INCH HAS FALLEN OFFICIALLY AT INDIANAPOLIS...THE 
LONGEST SUCH STRETCH IN RECORDED HISTORY. WITH JUST A SMALL 
THREAT FOR RAIN THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THIS STREAK 
WILL EXTEND SEVERAL MORE DAYS.

THE TOP FIVE LONGEST CONSECUTIVE STREAKS OF LESS THAN A TENTH OF
AN INCH OF DAILY PRECIPITATION:

1) 49 DAYS: 8/19-10/6/2020  ***ACTIVE*** 
2) 47 DAYS: 6/1-7/17/2012 
T3) 46 DAYS: 12/3/1955-1/17/1956 
T3) 46 DAYS: 8/13-9/27/1908 
5) 44 DAYS: 1/22-3/6/1935 (0.39")

Man, I knew they were dry, but that is insane. 

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22 hours ago, Brian D said:

Interesting weather fact from Ft. Ripley October 1820. 11" of snow from the 11th-14th. Still stands as the most significant early Oct snowfall for that area. Fantasy of a bygone era? :)

https://www.climatestations.com/minnesota-weather-for-1820/

Thanks for sharing that link. It was really interesting to go back and read the weather records from Fort Anthony/Snelling in those early days. 1820 to the present is a very impressive weather record for our part of the continent. My home is only a couple miles from the historic fort location, I’m sure there was settler activity right on my property during those days. 

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18 hours ago, IWXwx said:

50 days and counting...

...HISTORIC PERIOD OF DRY WEATHER CONTINUES AT INDIANAPOLIS...

TODAY...OCTOBER 6...MARKS THE 49TH CONSECUTIVE DAY THAT LESS THAN
A TENTH OF AN INCH HAS FALLEN OFFICIALLY AT INDIANAPOLIS...THE 
LONGEST SUCH STRETCH IN RECORDED HISTORY. WITH JUST A SMALL 
THREAT FOR RAIN THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK...THIS STREAK 
WILL EXTEND SEVERAL MORE DAYS.

THE TOP FIVE LONGEST CONSECUTIVE STREAKS OF LESS THAN A TENTH OF
AN INCH OF DAILY PRECIPITATION:

1) 49 DAYS: 8/19-10/6/2020  ***ACTIVE*** 
2) 47 DAYS: 6/1-7/17/2012 
T3) 46 DAYS: 12/3/1955-1/17/1956 
T3) 46 DAYS: 8/13-9/27/1908 
5) 44 DAYS: 1/22-3/6/1935 (0.39")

Yet Indy is still barely into moderate drought status on the latest monitor. I don’t know how the area can’t at least be considered to be in a severe short-term drought based on the current streak. I guess the coolish temps of late have helped.

https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?Midwest

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50 minutes ago, sojitodd said:

Can this rain please then just skip under Indy if want to keep this dry spell but then move up and give me a good one or two inches? Dang. 

 

 

With a strengthening La Niña, the dryness in the midwest is likely to continue into November. Late summer / autumn dryness / drought is common in the midwest during La Niña’s, of course with variabilities.

Delta is starting to look like a possible swing and a miss for the lower OV this weekend as each model run lowers precip totals, but we aren’t nearly as dry as central IN.

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1 hour ago, ovweather said:

With a strengthening La Niña, the dryness in the midwest is likely to continue into November. Late summer / autumn dryness / drought is common in the midwest during La Niña’s, of course with variabilities.

Delta is starting to look like a possible swing and a miss for the lower OV this weekend as each model run lowers precip totals, but we aren’t nearly as dry as central IN.

Yeah I see that the chances of significant rainfall for me are going down...oh well. 

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9 hours ago, ovweather said:

Yet Indy is still barely into moderate drought status on the latest monitor. I don’t know how the area can’t at least be considered to be in a severe short-term drought based on the current streak. I guess the coolish temps of late have helped.

https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?Midwest

The wife and I spent a few days in the Louisville area last weekend. The drive down was interesting because as we drove through Central Indiana, suddenly the lawns were dead (dormant).  It got a little greener as we got down to the Ohio, but was still dry. We thought about doing a waterfall tour, but the first two we checked out were almost dry.  We quickly gave up on that idea. lol

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2 hours ago, Hoosier said:

LOT calling for 81 at ORD tomorrow.  Assuming it happens, there's a very good chance it will be the last 80 degree day.

We are forecast for 80 both tomorrow and Saturday. If that little backdoor front moves the clouds in too soon on Saturday, 80's not happening.

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8 minutes ago, IWXwx said:

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The wife and I spent a few days in the Louisville area last weekend. The drive down was interesting because as we drove through Central Indiana, suddenly the lawns were dead (dormant).  It got a little greener as we got down to the Ohio, but was still dry. We thought about doing a waterfall tour, bet the first two we checked out were almost dry.  We quickly gave up on that idea. lol

Yeah, not a good time for a waterfall tour. This time of year, unless big rain events happen weekly, most creeks / streams are normally running at their lowest levels for the entire year.

It seems September / October in the OV is either very dry or very wet over the past few decades. Rarely “normal.”

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How do the great November storms correlate with ENSO?

Nov 1913: El Nino!

Nov 1940 (Armistice Day Storm): El Nino!

Nov 1950: La Nina

Nov 1966 (985 mb): possibly neutral

Nov 1975 (Edmund Fitzgerald): La Nina

Nov 2002 (tornado outbreak) El Nino

Does anybody else have any thoughts about this?

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18 minutes ago, Chinook said:

How do the great November storms correlate with ENSO?

Nov 1913: El Nino!

Nov 1940 (Armistice Day Storm): El Nino!

Nov 1950: La Nina

Nov 1966 (985 mb): possibly neutral

Nov 1975 (Edmund Fitzgerald): La Nina

Nov 2002 (tornado outbreak) El Nino

Does anybody else have any thoughts about this?

That big storms can happen in any ENSO state?

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48 minutes ago, Chinook said:

How do the great November storms correlate with ENSO?

Nov 1913: El Nino!

Nov 1940 (Armistice Day Storm): El Nino!

Nov 1950: La Nina

Nov 1966 (985 mb): possibly neutral

Nov 1975 (Edmund Fitzgerald): La Nina

Nov 2002 (tornado outbreak) El Nino

Does anybody else have any thoughts about this?

You are missing a few 1998 had a huge storm, and though in October you have to consider the Octobomb, both of which were La Nina.

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Record yesterday here in Duluth. Awesome day yesterday.

RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DULUTH MN 0725 AM CDT SAT OCT 10 2020 ...

RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT DULUTH MN...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 80 WAS SET AT DULUTH MN YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 76 SET IN 1930.

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22 hours ago, Chinook said:

How do the great November storms correlate with ENSO?

Nov 1913: El Nino!

Nov 1940 (Armistice Day Storm): El Nino!

Nov 1950: La Nina

Nov 1966 (985 mb): possibly neutral

Nov 1975 (Edmund Fitzgerald): La Nina

Nov 2002 (tornado outbreak) El Nino

Does anybody else have any thoughts about this?

You can add Halloween storm Oct31-Nov2 1991: El Nino

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For a week I was looking forward to this weekend and some modest warmth and sunshine after the mixed week, instead of waking up to the final hours of good weather I see a dark, gloomy overcast (noon is as bright as 6:45 pm!!) and higher than expected winds. Just 24 hours ago it was showing mainly sunny conditions. This was the last day on my 7-day showing both 20C+ and some sunlight...

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10 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said:

The GFS continues to tease snow events for the upper midwest in the 1-2 week period.  Last night's Euro had a good one up in Minnesota.

At the very least, it appears the garden season will be over.

GFS fantasy games had to start at some point.

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