Damage In Tolland Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:32 PM, ORH_wxman said: How do you know it't going to be below normal snowfall? Expand How do you know it won’t be? No one knows. It’s my forecast . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:34 PM, CoastalWx said: Kevin has been a meteorological mess since last year. Expand Like you who group texts ratter and then goes snowy and pretends I have no clue what I’m talking about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:34 PM, CoastalWx said: Kevin has Just been a mess! Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:47 PM, Damage In Tolland said: How do you know it won’t be? No one knows. It’s my forecast . Expand I wasn't the one conveying certainty, you were. It could be a ratter, but I was asking where you got the extreme confidence form that it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:39 PM, CoastalWx said: I just don't get having to be pessimistic going into this. But to each his own. Expand Reverse psychology has been around the forums for a while. I’ve used it. Set expectations at zero lol. But don’t project that on everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:48 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Like you who group texts ratter and then goes snowy and pretends I have no clue what I’m talking about . Expand I just enjoying effing with you. My honest opinion is not a ratter. I have nothing to point to a ratter or snower, just my gut and some educational guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Some just never call for a mundane forecast. Never say just below normal or even normal. It has to be a full ratter or the deepest winter ever. No middle ground because what’s the fun in that? Those are sometimes the only two options for certain folks lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 @ORH_wxman Best I can gather is that my current spot probably had around 80" in 2007-08. Groveland, which is just se of Haverhill and seems like a reliable station, had 77.4". Jive with your map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:54 PM, powderfreak said: Some just never call for a mundane forecast. Never say just below normal or even normal. It has to be a full ratter or the deepest winter ever. No middle ground because what’s the fun in that? Those are sometimes the only two options for certain folks lol. Expand ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:09 PM, Damage In Tolland said: ? Expand Ha! Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:09 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: @ORH_wxman Best I can gather is that my current spot probably had around 80" in 2007-08. Groveland, which is just se of Haverhill and seems like a reliable station, had 77.4". Jive with your map? Expand Sounds a little low to me. But not too far off. I'd prob put you closer to mid/high 80s that winter, or possibly even cracking 90" if you are being a weenie about every squall. As we know, if the coop isn't a very meticulous snow observer, then it could easily be on the low side even if they are still following the minimal guidelines. Also you are west of them so you were prob on the W side of the CF in some events where they weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:19 PM, ORH_wxman said: Sounds a little low to me. But not too far off. I'd prob put you closer to mid/high 80s that winter, or possibly even cracking 90" if you are being a weenie about every squall. As we know, if the coop isn't a very meticulous snow observer, then it could easily be on the low side even if they are still following the minimal guidelines. Also you are west of them so you were prob on the W side of the CF in some events where they weren't. Expand Yes, I was surprised how low they were bc looking at the data, it seems pretty legit. I know I have told you in the past that I figured around 90" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:22 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yes, I was surprised how low they were bc looking at the data, it seems pretty legit. I know I have told you in the past that I figured around 90" here. Expand I mean, I do have Groveland around 80" on my map, but you are closer to 90" on the map. They should be expected to get a little less than you anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:26 PM, ORH_wxman said: I mean, I do have Groveland around 80" on my map, but you are closer to 90" on the map. They should be expected to get a little less than you anyway. Expand Must just be a steeper gradient than I had suspected. I have noted since moving here two years ago that the CF often stops at Haverhill, so that makes sense, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 That small window near Halloween bares watching for something wintery. It’s been on and off guidance for a few days now. Long ways out but could offer a shot. Then of course the winter goes to hell after (if the myth is true) #NovaScotiaStrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:33 PM, Hazey said: That small window near Halloween bares watching for something wintery. It’s been on and off guidance for a few days now. Long ways out but could offer a shot. Then of course the winter goes to hell after (if the myth is true) #NovaScotiaStrong Expand If it happens on 10/30 vs 11/2, winter is shot to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Yeah it's way out there, but there's some potential for somethign wintry around 10/30-10/31....low probability of course this time of the year, but there's some very cold ar lurking and a good high is present on most current guidance. Fwiw, the Euro OP cuts the system to our west, so anything is possible at this range. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:41 PM, ORH_wxman said: Yeah it's way out there, but there's some potential for somethign wintry around 10/30-10/31....low probability of course this time of the year, but there's some very cold ar lurking and a good high is present on most current guidance. Fwiw, the Euro OP cuts the system to our west, so anything is possible at this range. Expand So if it cuts west, winter is saved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:47 PM, CoastalWx said: So if it cuts west, winter is saved? Expand Yup. Voo-Doo Meteorology at its best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 2:52 PM, powderfreak said: Reverse psychology has been around the forums for a while. I’ve used it. Set expectations at zero lol. But don’t project that on everyone else. Expand i do this for every snowstorm. makes me feel better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:58 PM, Lava Rock said: i do this for every snowstorm. makes me feel better Expand We know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:32 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Must just be a steeper gradient than I had suspected. I have noted since moving here two years ago that the CF often stops at Haverhill, so that makes sense, actually. Expand Depending on the winter there can be a sharp gradient across the area. Haverhill is a very large city, nearly 36 square miles and it is the largest city in Essex county. The central part and NW parts of Haverhill are best for snow. The area closer to North Andover is more prone to mixing and/or changing to plain rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:47 PM, CoastalWx said: So if it cuts west, winter is saved? Expand Only if you flip the calendar to 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:01 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: Depending on the winter there can be a sharp gradient across the area. Haverhill is a very large city, nearly 36 square miles and it is the largest city in Essex county. The central part and NW parts of Haverhill are best for snow. The area closer to North Andover is more prone to mixing and/or changing to plain rain. Expand That is more sw end of town....I would think the part bordering Groveland and Boxford to the se would be worst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:02 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Only if you flip the calendar to 2002. Expand I was mind blown to see snow in Oct 2002. Couldn't believe it. And then similarly in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:08 PM, CoastalWx said: I was mind blown to see snow in Oct 2002. Couldn't believe it. And then similarly in 2003. Expand June 2002 takes the cake for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:09 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: June 2002 takes the cake for me. Expand You mean May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I wasn't around for the May stuff in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:10 PM, CoastalWx said: You mean May? Expand Yes. I pulled a Kevin/Tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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