wolfie09 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 No surprise that the winds will be nearly due west, when I now need a WSW lol Looks good for my old stomping grounds.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 13 out of the last 20 years have been above average snowfall in Syracuse. 2000-2001 191.9 2001-2002 59.4 2002-2003 153.2 2003-2004 181.3 2004-2005 136.2 2005-2006 124.6 2006-2007 140.2 2007-2008 109.1 2008-2009 149.6 2009-2010 106.2 2010-2011 179.4 2011-2012 50.6 2012-2013 115.4 2013-2014 132.0 2014-2015 119.7 2015-2016 79.6 2016-2017 134.9 2017-2018 153.6 2018-2019 115.0 2019-2020 87.6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: 13 out of the last 20 years have been above average snowfall in Syracuse. 2000-2001 191.9 2001-2002 59.4 2002-2003 153.2 2003-2004 181.3 2004-2005 136.2 2005-2006 124.6 2006-2007 140.2 2007-2008 109.1 2008-2009 149.6 2009-2010 106.2 2010-2011 179.4 2011-2012 50.6 2012-2013 115.4 2013-2014 132.0 2014-2015 119.7 2015-2016 79.6 2016-2017 134.9 2017-2018 153.6 2018-2019 115.0 2019-2020 87.6 But only 3 of the last 9. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I'm still trying to figure out where all this cold air is coming from. Its in the mid 50's all across Ontario Province and in the 50's pretty much every where else. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 WSW for my area for 4-7" total with 7-10 in the more favored locations like the TUG but that seems very high for me especially the lower elevations but we'll see what happensSent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 No surprise that the winds will be nearly due west, when I now need a WSW lol Looks good for my old stomping grounds..Yeah, I don't know where the NWS are getting their totals from cause they're way off Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Hrrr doesn't go out far enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Looking upstream at the upper Great Lakes the winds are definitely not West or even NW as they look more on the NNW side but perhaps as the system continues to move eastwatd, the winds will veer more towards the WNW. Is there still redevelopment in the Gulf of Maine?Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just love being in the middle of 2 Jackpot areas, what a f'in joke and the Winter of 20-21' begins, lol! Someone South of the City of Syracuse is gonna see 6-10" watchSent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Cold air will start to push through this evening, especially over the higher terrain..I think I'll miss the"bulk" to my south as it stands now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Cold air will start to push through this evening, especially over the higher terrain..I think I'll miss the"bulk" to my south as it stands now..Yeah, we won't see a changeover to snow some time between 6-7z tomorrow morning and by that time, the suns up and temps will begin to warm and then its back to rain. The second event, tomorrow night into Tuesday is primarily for the Southern Tug then that heads out on Tuesday then we warm back into the mid to upper 60's, Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Syrmax said: Since I’ve been here (15 winters), we have been average or above avg for snowfall for probably 11 or 12. So not bad...although the propensity for consistent snowcover has been lacking. I haven’t seen any real analysis of this compared to longer term averages, so I don’t know if it’s a real trend or imagined. However, more frustratingly for me, is that we def have had a number of recent Dec/Jan periods where it magically gets mild right before Xmas and into at least the first half of January. Which is really a downer from an overall seasonal “quality of experience” standpoint. Last winter a perfect example...starts early, gets mild in prime time, yet a cold wet spring with snow into mid May. On top of the Covid misery. Blech! 1 hour ago, rochesterdave said: I remember in the 90’s I used to get so jealous of Syracuse. I’d wake up here in Rochester with bright sun and see a report of heavy snow in Syracuse with 14” fresh. They seem to have stopped having a lot of those Syracuse blaster bands that come off the SE of Ontario and literally just bisect the city. It could be that they just had some anomalous years then. Hey! Syracuse still has the big swinging dic. in the thruway cities. 1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said: Syracuse average snowfall has been going up the last 30 years. Great discussion, guys. I think some of it is true winter to me is having some consistent snowcover along with falling snow. I think Delta was talking about that earlier in the week? Although the past 10 to 20 years have had some increasing snowfall, the ability for it to stick around has generally been lacking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Great discussion, guys. I think some of it is true winter to me is having some consistent snowcover along with falling snow. I think Delta was talking about that earlier in the week? Although the past 10 to 20 years have had some increasing snowfall, the ability for it to stick around has generally been lacking. This link has the depressing graphics. It’s something i wasn't even aware of until recently. Total seasonal snowfall is somewhat stable over the last 50 years or so, but snowpack is certainly on the downward trend. Vanishing snowpack 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Heavy rain here, 41°.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 18Z runs showing the Northern Onondaga screw zone in effect. Strong and transitional winds, proximity to Lake Ontario, my presence, and low elevation ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 You guys out west in the Buffalo area getting any snow from those showers? Probably any hour now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: You guys out west in the Buffalo area getting any snow from those showers? Probably any hour now. Jamestown has been reporting snow for a few hours now and is sitting at 33. Very envious of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Jamestown has been reporting snow for a few hours now and is sitting at 33. Very envious of them. Sometimes I regret not taking the job in Springville... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 This must be a new webcam. Live from Jamestown. It's not the best quality, but nice for those of us waiting for the first snowfall. The ground looks white there. https://wnynewsnow.com/live/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Receiving some sort of frozen precipitation, most likely graupel.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Apparently Holiday valley changed over a few hours back too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrich Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 If this November end up above average then we are due for below average in March, April and May again next year. Let's hope it happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, DeltaT13 said: This link has the depressing graphics. It’s something i wasn't even aware of until recently. Total seasonal snowfall is somewhat stable over the last 50 years or so, but snowpack is certainly on the downward trend. Vanishing snowpack Yep, average temps overall have gone up dramatically the last 50 years and as a result snowfall retention will get worse each year. This is pretty substantial warming. https://www.wgrz.com/article/weather/forecast/climate/warming-winters-may-lead-to-more-snow-for-western-new-york/71-066a5545-e706-4a0a-b974-f94f4878ee16 +3.2 is a massive difference in terms of snowfall retention. In the next 50 years you can more then double that. Our climate is going to be similar to that of Pittsburgh PA in terms of temp by 2050. Over the past 50 years, the average number of days with 6 inches or more in the ground has decreased from 34 days to 19 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Lyndon NY in Catt county 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Really hope we don't have to fight the SE ridge all year again. Is that a permanent structure in our environment now? Every winter we get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Really hope we don't have to fight the SE ridge all year again. Is that a permanent structure in our environment now? Every winter we get it. That’s my biggest concern. Cold NW, ridge in the SE. It could be climate change. If so, back to Bozeman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, rochesterdave said: That’s my biggest concern. Cold NW, ridge in the SE. It could be climate change. If so, back to Bozeman! Both the GEFS and EPS show the battle but the SE ridge wins the entire run. Just torch city the next 10 days at least. We will likely be setting some records. Next weekend we will have highs in the 70s 1-2 days. +20 departures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, TugHillMatt said: This must be a new webcam. Live from Jamestown. It's not the best quality, but nice for those of us waiting for the first snowfall. The ground looks white there. https://wnynewsnow.com/live/ WNY New Snow, name checks out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Both the GEFS and EPS show the battle but the SE ridge wins the entire run. Just torch city the next 10 days at least. We will likely be setting some records. Next weekend we will have highs in the 70s 1-2 days. +20 departures. It’s right where we want to be. We’ll get plenty of big synoptic storms and the artic blast or two that brings in the hoods. I see a lot of variability this winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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