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The departing surface high will keep temperatures on the cold side
ahead of this system. Latest model soundings continue to suggest it
will be cold enough to allow for at least some wet snow at the start
of precipitation on Sunday. The GFS/NAM solutions are colder than
the ECMWF/GEM guidance, and would suggest a little longer period of
snow and better potential for some accumulation. Following the snow
at the onset, a stronger push of warm advection in the low levels
will change everything over to rain by late Sunday afternoon in the
west, and during the first half of Sunday night east of Lake
Ontario. Soundings suggest most areas will see a clean transition
from wet snow to rain. That said, there may be a few localized
pockets of freezing rain potential Sunday afternoon across the
valleys of the Southern Tier, and the first half of Sunday night
across the North Country if surface temperatures stay at or just
below freezing as warmer air aloft arrives.

The steady precipitation will taper off from west to east late
Sunday night and Monday morning as the surface low moves down the
Saint Lawrence Valley and a cold front sweeps from west to east
across the area. There will be some limited, light lake effect rain
and snow showers east and southeast of the lakes Monday in the wake
of this system as 850MB temps drop to around -5C. The limited lake
response will end Monday night as high pressure builds into the
Great Lakes with associated dry air, subsidence, and increased
boundary layer shear.
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1 hour ago, wolfie09 said:

The departing surface high will keep temperatures on the cold side
ahead of this system. Latest model soundings continue to suggest it
will be cold enough to allow for at least some wet snow at the start
of precipitation on Sunday. The GFS/NAM solutions are colder than
the ECMWF/GEM guidance, and would suggest a little longer period of
snow and better potential for some accumulation. Following the snow
at the onset, a stronger push of warm advection in the low levels
will change everything over to rain by late Sunday afternoon in the
west, and during the first half of Sunday night east of Lake
Ontario. Soundings suggest most areas will see a clean transition
from wet snow to rain. That said, there may be a few localized
pockets of freezing rain potential Sunday afternoon across the
valleys of the Southern Tier, and the first half of Sunday night
across the North Country if surface temperatures stay at or just
below freezing as warmer air aloft arrives.

The steady precipitation will taper off from west to east late
Sunday night and Monday morning as the surface low moves down the
Saint Lawrence Valley and a cold front sweeps from west to east
across the area. There will be some limited, light lake effect rain
and snow showers east and southeast of the lakes Monday in the wake
of this system as 850MB temps drop to around -5C. The limited lake
response will end Monday night as high pressure builds into the
Great Lakes with associated dry air, subsidence, and increased
boundary layer shear.

GFS 12z has a lot of good opportunities to it especially as we hit December...it would have 2 looks at a LES event for our regions...and FWIW Sunday looks somewhat colder and a tad more snow.

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Rain and snow on Sunday will change to mainly rain on Sunday night.
However, a wintry mix of rain, freezing rain and sleet could occur
Sunday night into early Monday morning over the higher terrain as
temperatures only slowly warm. Minor slushy snow accumulations are
possible on Sunday, especially across the higher terrain.
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Latest model soundings continue to suggest it
will be cold enough to allow for at least some wet snow at the start
of precipitation on Sunday before the strengthening low-level
trough pushes a warm layer aloft and eventually to the sfc across
the region. Thermal profiles remain mainly isothermal though,
right on the edge of rain and snow. Does seem that over majority
of western NY to the Finger Lakes that by time warm layer aloft
arrives Sunday afternoon, near surface temps will be just warm
enough for rain as main ptype. Before that occurs mainly inland
areas will see a couple inches of wet snow on Sunday morning.

By Sunday evening, still some concern that higher terrain east
of Lake Ontario and even lower elevations along the St. Lawrence
River could be looking at snow changing to mix of rain/freezing
rain or sleet depening on how cold it is at surface when warm
layer arrives. Went with mainly rain, but did include small
chance of the wintry mix as well. Possible some minor icing
could occur if coldest surface temps from NAM verify. Right now
this looks like pretty low risk though. Otherwise, most likely
looking at a cold, raw rain. Elsewhere, colder air working in
late behind system will not switch rain back to mix of rain and
snow until after daybreak on Monday. By this time though, steady
precipitation will begin tapering off from west to east as the
surface low moves down the Saint Lawrence Valley and a cold
front sweeps from west to east across the area.
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24 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

So many memories from this storm. Did anyone get stuck at school overnight?

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I spent 12 hours trying to drive from McKinley High in north Buffalo to home in S Buffalo. Must have pushed 50 cars that night. Never made it, got as far as hutch tech. Also stole a camera from some kids throwing snowballs at cars on park side :snowing: 

Oh yeah, about 4 hours of that was on the scajaquada. Someone had beer there...

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58 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

So many memories from this storm. Did anyone get stuck at school overnight?

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I was in elementary school. Got stranded at school till my mom could get me after 8pm. We watched movies on cots in the gym and ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I was one of the lucky ones who didn’t have to spend the night as over 20 other kids landed up sleeping overnight in the gym... 

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I was working in an office on Sheridan.

Guy I was working with told me to pack up and head out at lunchtime.

I remember driving on the 290 west, needing to get on 990.  I had made the drive so many times I just knew it was off to my right.  I kept edging over, because I couldn't see any signs or any lane markings.  Hardest snow I have ever seen.  Somehow I found it and got home.

They closed the office about 20 minutes after I Ieft.  Several staff members never even made it out of the parking to and slept there.

 

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6 minutes ago, cny rider said:

I was working in an office on Sheridan.

Guy I was working with told me to pack up and head out at lunchtime.

I remember driving on the 290 west, needing to get on 990.  I had made the drive so many times I just knew it was off to my right.  I kept edging over, because I couldn't see any signs or any lane markings.  Hardest snow I have ever seen.  Somehow I found it and got home.

They closed the office about 20 minutes after I Ieft.  Several staff members never even made it out of the parking to and slept there.

 

I was working in the northtowns at the time and just bought a brand new GMC Jimmy and wanted to chase...I was fine but the myriad of cars that got stuck on the 198 was hilarious. Ended up picking up my aunt the next day from downtown and it was like a formula 1 racetrack.

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2 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said:

I was working in the northtowns at the time and just bought a brand new GMC Jimmy and wanted to chase...I was fine but the myriad of cars that got stuck on the 198 was hilarious. Ended up picking up my aunt the next day from downtown and it was like a formula 1 racetrack.

Anyone remember how bad the hard pack was on the roads that week? They also postponed the Harvard cup because of the storm. 

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18 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Anyone remember how bad the hard pack was on the roads that week? They also postponed the Harvard cup because of the storm. 

That year was one of my favorite winters. Look at all the events that hit metro that year. 2000-2005 had some great winters. 5 straight of 100"+ at KBUF and quite a bit more than that south of them.

https://www.weather.gov/buf/lesEventArchive?season=2000-2001&event=C

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That was a great storm.  The intensity and timing really caught the metro off guard.  We just got home from school in West Seneca before the band moved over us.  
 

WKBW broadcast from the next morning...


Also some nice raw footage from the post storm...  Incorrect factual tidbits, but great footage.  Amazing to see that “ice pack” on the roads.  The heavy volume of traffic compacted 2’ of snow down to the density of an ice rink in the streets...

 

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