Geez150 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: I have no idea how people are already calling off winter on November 17th...What exactly is this based on? Some lousy teleconnections for the next 4 weeks (which still doesnt even get us into the actual calendar start of winter)?? Aside from one really warm week in November, things are right on track in regards to a typical year. I think I'm -1.5" in the snowfall dept according to climatology. For my area (where we get very little meaningful lake effect), I look forward to February and March; the big months for Synoptic whoppers. We haven't even got to the starting line yet and people are writing off this winter. Weird wild stuff indeed, get a grip everyone.. Though I do fully agree with you that we shouldn't be signing off just yet. I don't necessarily blame anyone for being gun shy, based on our winters have been basically all down hill since the winter of 2014/2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: I have no idea how people are already calling off winter on November 17th...What exactly is this based on? Some lousy teleconnections for the next 4 weeks (which still doesnt even get us into the actual calendar start of winter)?? Aside from one really warm week in November, things are right on track in regards to a typical year. I think I'm -1.5" in the snowfall dept according to climatology. For my area (where we get very little meaningful lake effect), I look forward to February and March; the big months for Synoptic whoppers. We haven't even got to the starting line yet and people are writing off this winter. Weird wild stuff indeed, get a grip everyone.. I think its all preference. Last year seemed like a bad winter but for me it was fine, started off fast with November snowstorms and cold, and then off again/on again threading the needle and ending up with around 48" of snow. Id rather that instead of losing November-January to tiny nothing events surrounded by warmth and then getting 3-4 6" storms in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Moderate snow/graupel at the moment, replacing what I lost from earlier lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 We have ACCUMULATION! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Upstream moisture and a Gbay connection setting up right now. I might sneak out an inch tonight if things play out right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, CNY-LES FREAK said: Starting to absolutely despise where I live as I'm sick and tired of watching it snow to my North and to my South! Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Southwestern Oswego county and Northwestern Onondaga county are in such a crap transition zone. What area of Oswego County are you in? Are you just north of Clay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_rules Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Grass is covered in the hills of the northern Catskills. Down to 24° and looking mighty wintry outside! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just as the band shifts south from Oswego county, it falls apart. Looks like another dusting marked down...and wait of another couple weeks to get our first inch here in the NW Syracuse burbs. I really doubt how much Lake effect snow this area gets...I am thinking it's more lake-enhanced on the back side of well-pathed systems, which were missing last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Looking at webcams, it looks like Rome (Oneida county) had enough to shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The LR temps look to be right around the seasonal average of low 40’s to upper 30’s as we approach December. In that type of scenario it would not take much for us to be in the right side of a system to get snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Snow Reports last 2 days. Boston got 5.5" inches overnight last night https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=BUF&product=PNS&format=CI&version=3&glossary=0 https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BUF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I'm convinced that a NNW wind is when we get our best snows at my locationexcept when a Cutoff sits atop Vermont or NH for a few days as it meanders off into the Gulf of Maine! Who's calling off Winter anyway, lol, I haven't read the thread in a while! Very cold morning with a temp of 17° with snow falling and have added a couple inches since 6:30 so all in all, not bad for 11/17!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Southwestern Oswego county and Northwestern Onondaga county are in such a crap transition zone. What area of Oswego County are you in? Are you just north of Clay?Neah, about 4-5 miles North of Great Northern mall!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just as the band shifts south from Oswego county, it falls apart. Looks like another dusting marked down...and wait of another couple weeks to get our first inch here in the NW Syracuse burbs. I really doubt how much Lake effect snow this area gets...I am thinking it's more lake-enhanced on the back side of well-pathed systems, which were missing last year.100% correct my friend. True LE doesn't happen around here all that often but when it does, its special fo sho!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ithaca is getting smashed right now especially with the enhancement off of Cayuga, very nice indeed!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just some on and off flakes here.. Central Oswego county has been snowing since last evening, I would imagine several inches have fallen.. Heading to pulaski soon, hopefully it's still snowing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Estimated totals as of 12z.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2.4 inches here as of 9:00. The temperature has been in the lower 20s but now sits at 25. It’s been snowing all morning but it seems to have let up in the last few minutes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Thinksnow18 said: The LR temps look to be right around the seasonal average of low 40’s to upper 30’s as we approach December. In that type of scenario it would not take much for us to be in the right side of a system to get snow. You're right. Long range does not look terrible. No air really cold enough for lake effect, but synoptic chances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Riding through parts of the tug, obviously not the biggest event but it's something lol 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Wow! Pretty slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: Wow! Pretty slow. That’ll happen when the next 2 weeks look desolate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Yeah. I don’t see much despite a favorable track. No Canadian highs to link up with anything. maybe some LES on a SW flow. temps marginal. but it could be what we want. Several times in the last few years we started strong only to be dissatisfied. Maybe it goes the other way? Or maybe we are due one more dud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: Yeah. I don’t see much despite a favorable track. No Canadian highs to link up with anything. maybe some LES on a SW flow. temps marginal. but it could be what we want. Several times in the last few years we started strong only to be dissatisfied. Maybe it goes the other way? Or maybe we are due one more dud. Nearly every long term indice/index/etc... paints a grim picture of this winter. Hopefully they're all wrong and we get slammed. We just need cold air to get things going. I just don't see a lot of it for awhile. The thing is Ninas usually feature great Decembers and spring arrives early. December is 10 days away. If things still look this grim at end of month it might be another ratter winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Nearly every long term indice/index/etc... paints a grim picture of this winter. Hopefully they're all wrong and we get slammed. We just need cold air to get things going. I just don't see a lot of it for awhile. The thing is Ninas usually feature great Decembers and spring arrives early. December is 10 days away. If things still look this grim at end of month it might be another ratter winter. Great point. It’s that SE ridge. I think it’s a new permanent feature. Global warming change. I’m gonna have to move to Montana/ Wyoming. NW and Northern Rockies is gonna be where it’s at. Surprisingly affordable in Jackson Hole. Lol! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 At least snowfall seems above normal in Canada, our source of cold air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: At least snowfall seems above normal in Canada, our source of cold air. I mean one thing we can hang our hats on this far north is during all of January our average high is below freezing so even a +2 degree departure still gets us plenty of snow chances even really from mid December on if being honest. I’m not worried...yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: I mean one thing we can hang our hats on this far north is during all of January our average high is below freezing so even a +2 degree departure still gets us plenty of snow chances even really from mid December on if being honest. I’m not worried...yet Nam shows some snow on Sunday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 So did last nights Canadian.. Couple/few inches before flipping to rain.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 If we can just get this a little farther east lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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