powderfreak Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah he’s on the wrong side of Pinkham notch for upslope. The synoptic stuff will come though. Some years there’s a couple good ones in November but other years it seems like you’re waiting and then all of the sudden you get destroyed by several in a row in December. Yeah I think it’s all pretty normal to above normal for places in SNE and NNE that have seen events (outside that zone south of the Whites into adjacent Maine)... I feel for Phin, we all told him he’d be absolutely buried for 6 months... but sometimes the bigger synoptic snows don’t come until Christmas or later even. Sometimes we can nickel and dime for quite a while too. Hopefully he’s not at 40+” cumulative at the end of December wondering why he hasn’t had more than 7” on the ground at any point, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I think it’s all pretty normal to above normal for places in SNE and NNE that have seen events (outside that zone south of the Whites into adjacent Maine)... I feel for Phin, we all told him he’d be absolutely buried for 6 months... but sometimes the bigger synoptic snows don’t come until Christmas or later even. Sometimes we can nickel and dime for quite a while too. Hopefully he’s not at 40+” cumulative at the end of December wondering why he hasn’t had more than 7” on the ground at any point, ha. LOL Dang fake snow keeps tricking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I’m up to 32.5 here already so this is not going to be a CAD setup here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhineasC said: I’m up to 32.5 here already so this is not going to be a CAD setup here. Still 28.9° here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 32/23 at MVL in the valley. Sitting at 29F at 1,500ft on the east slope. Dead calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, PhineasC said: I’m up to 32.5 here already so this is not going to be a CAD setup here. 26.8F CAD rules here. SW to NE valley drains the cold right down to me. Many times I have been warmer than Alex in these types of situations. Let's see how long it takes for me to get up to 32F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 26F with steady light snow continuing. Accumulation up to 0.7" on the day. It's absolutely beautiful out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: 26.8F CAD rules here. SW to NE valley drains the cold right down to me. Many times I have been warmer than Alex in these types of situations. Let's see how long it takes for me to get up to 32F I think he (Phin and Alex) needs more of a high to the north and the flow 2000ft up not ripping from the SSE already. This is a marginal event anyways so no real loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmtnwx Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, alex said: Mission accomplished Alex did you have this home built? What’s a new construction cabin like yours run up there you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I think it’s all pretty normal to above normal for places in SNE and NNE that have seen events (outside that zone south of the Whites into adjacent Maine)... I feel for Phin, we all told him he’d be absolutely buried for 6 months... but sometimes the bigger synoptic snows don’t come until Christmas or later even. Sometimes we can nickel and dime for quite a while too. Hopefully he’s not at 40+” cumulative at the end of December wondering why he hasn’t had more than 7” on the ground at any point, ha. In the upslope spots of N VT you just have such a lower variance . Can’t really do worse than 150” at 2K from Nov to end of April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 45 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I think he (Phin and Alex) needs more of a high to the north and the flow 2000ft up not ripping from the SSE already. This is a marginal event anyways so no real loss. Yeah...deeper CAD and they’re fine. When it turns into one of those shallow in-situ deals they will probably mix out a bit before Gene and I. But it’s not like it’s going to cost them much...maybe a little less freezing drizzle in some events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Up to 32F at 4k feet on the Auto Road. We've crept up to 29F here. Precip has finally ended, and I would imagine anything beyond this point is likely to be freezing rather than frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: In the upslope spots of N VT you just have such a lower variance . Can’t really do worse than 150” at 2K from Nov to end of April The low variance is why we LOL a bit when we see any sort of seasonal forecasts calling for 150% of average snowfall around here. Heck, even 125% of average snowfall can be hard to achieve. For the local mountain locations, 125% of average snowfall means you’re in the range of 400 inches of snow. That doesn’t happen very often, and indeed if one of the Northern Greens resorts get a 400” season, it’s a solid season. The flip side on that variance is the safety net aspect though; it’s also hard to get really poor snowfall seasons. For those weenie types that are into snow and snowstorms for the emotional roller coaster that comes with the highs and lows, boom and bust of a large variance snow climate, or just want a thrill from tracking storms in the models and don’t really care about the actual utility of the snow, this isn’t necessarily the best climate. If you just want a lot of snow and don’t really want to worry about it too much, this is great climate. As a scientist who’s interested in rigorously documenting the unique snow microclimate here, and as a skier looking for powder and overall quality natural snow conditions for skiing, I personally find this area great. If you’d rather have the occasional blockbuster/blizzard type setup that dumps a bunch of snow, then you can clean it up and be done with it and move on, this isn’t going to be the place. Yeah we get plenty of decent synoptic storms, but if 100 days of snow globe flakes a season, and lots of cloudier days on top of that, feels like more of a nuisance, this climate might feel frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 It’s been snowing pretty hard here at the mountain with another half inch at 1,500ft in the last hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Snow resuming here. 34 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Up to 30.0F Dusting of snow on the ground is just sitting there. They salted roads here but just drove south 5 miles to Bristol and there was very little evidence they got anything earlier this morning. Another .25" down in my yearly snow total. Ouch on the Euro for next week. 5" of rain? Good for the drought. A nice deep soak into the deep roots of trees before the ground freezes up. Not so good for winter enthusiasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: Up to 30.0F Dusting of snow on the ground is just sitting there. They salted roads here but just drove south 5 miles to Bristol and there was very little evidence they got anything earlier this morning. Another .25" down in my yearly snow total. Ouch on the Euro for next week. 5" of rain? Good for the drought. A nice deep soak into the deep roots of trees before the ground freezes up. Not so good for winter enthusiasts. I'm really interested in comparing my location to other CAD-prone spots in the state this year. I spent five years at PSU, so I know how the cold air loves to get tucked into the Pemi Valley during these in-situ events. I'm sure each CAD-prone location has a very specific setup in terms of the wind direction, location of high pressure, etc. and some events will favor your area while others favor mine. That said...we are holding at 29F right now. Solid winter day out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, powderfreak said: It’s been snowing pretty hard here at the mountain with another half inch at 1,500ft in the last hour or so. Since this morning’s snow, it’s really been just cloudy here with the occasional flurry. About an hour ago though we began to get more consistent snowfall, and we’re getting consistent light snow now with big flakes. Presumably the atmosphere has been moistening up with this recent pulse that came into the area to get these flakes all the way down to the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Kinda weird. Radar has looked good for an hour but just spitting snow. Even the peaks across the way are clear and totally visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Kinda weird. Radar has looked good for an hour but just spitting snow. Even the peaks across the way are clear and totally visible. Should get another burst from the west next hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2.2” at home. 32F down here. 28F at 1500ft with ~3”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, powderfreak said: 2.2” at home. 32F down here. 28F at 1500ft with ~3”. Nice little event Can U check and see how much is at that plot at 1900” in eden , VT Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Nice little event Can U check and see how much is at that plot at 1900” in eden , VT Lol Ha no can only show you my backyard. My elevated board stand in the garden. What a difference in mood though when you can’t see the grass even if the depth is only 3”. Im sure 1900ft in Eden has 6-7” on the ground right now like 1500ft at Mansfield lol. For a shitty pattern it has wanted to snow if that makes sense. Every little opportunity seems to be getting made the most of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Not even an upslope event and the Vermonters still win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 31/25 and overcast Only made it up to 32.3F today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Back down to 30 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 After peaking at 31 this afternoon, we are back down to 28. Interesting that my area was not included in the winter wx advisory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2nd batch of SN noon-2 added 0.6" for a total of 1.4". Very pretty in the woods, though no tracks were seen - the critters will probably be moving around tonight. About 3:40 I heard stuff rattling thru the trees - sounded like IP but looked like heavily rimed flakes. Some had not completely refrozen so our steps have some gritty ice, less than 0.05". With temps still about 24, the incomplete refreeze suggests that the warmer air isn't too far above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Event totals: 1.9” Snow/0.15” L.E. We picked up an additional 0.2” of snow with today’s activity. The models don’t really show any backside snow with this system, so what we’ve had thus far could be it for the snow with this event. Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.2 inches New Liquid: Trace Temperature: 33.6 F Sky: Cloudy Snow at the stake: 4.0 inches I haven’t cored the snowpack, but it’s probably only got about a third of an inch of liquid in it. Still, I don’t think it’s all just going to disappear overnight based our forecast of temperatures just a bit above freezing, so another white Thanksgiving seems likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 hours ago, greenmtnwx said: Alex did you have this home built? What’s a new construction cabin like yours run up there you think? Yes I had it built. We love it but honestly, when it's all said and done it costed a lot more to build than I expected - ended up right around a million. But we did finish the basement as well, which wasn't in the original plan, and did a lot of stonework inside which wasn't cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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