HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhineasC said: COVID also messed up Trump's path to victory. Without COVID, this would have probably not been a very hard election for him to win. I am not sure a blowout is even possible in our current environment, but he would have won fairly clearly. But the Dems were able to rally around COVID as a campaign issue. Trump recovered somewhat with the law and order stuff in the closing months, and so here we are with a near deadlock. I think if he had responded differently to the 'Vid he would have had a much easier time... and not so much as doing anything to stop/mitigate it, but just to voice his views on it differently. He so desperately wanted to appeal to the Trump flag waving cult members that he alienated the middle of the road types on that issue. We will see. Maybe he wins anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I am personally no fan of Biden. I felt he was among the weakest of the ones the Dems put up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, powderfreak said: It's all Trump's rhetoric, his attitude, his lying, peddling conspiracies, etc. Very few voted for Biden. They voted against Trump. Trump would've won in a landslide if he just kept his mouth shut and stayed off Twitter. His personality turns so many people off and he may very well lose because of his divisiveness rhetoric. Like has been said, the actual President doesn't matter/effect most people. State and local elections, and senate/house matter more to how it affects your life. A lot of people just want less of a Saturday Night Live skit for a President at this point. This is the basic answer you hear. You voted for someone because you didn’t like the other person. You didn’t vote for him because he is going to improve your life, your family etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: This is the basic answer you hear. You voted for someone because you didn’t like the other person. You didn’t vote for him because he is going to improve your life, your family etc. How will Trump improve your life? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I’m just trying to get ideas and see what people are doing for the holidays. It really sucks. If there is one word that sums up the year for me, it’s frustration. Call me crazy, and I'm sure some will, but we're going to Disney World for 10 days over Thanksgiving. Planned the trip for over a year. We're still going. But we're not afraid of anything, so it really makes us no difference virus or no virus. Thanksgiving dinner at the Brown Derby in Hollywood Studios. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Highest percent of non-white vote for a GOP candidate since 1960... wow. Trump of all people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, WhitinsvilleWX said: Call me crazy, and I'm sure some will, but we're going to Disney World for 10 days over Thanksgiving. Planned the trip for over a year. We're still going. But we're not afraid of anything, so it really makes us no difference virus or no virus. Thanksgiving dinner at the Brown Derby in Hollywood Studios. Nice! Get the Cobb Salad and Grapefruit Cake, as well as the Martini flight. My brother went with his family in August. He felt very safe, but make sure you obey the rules on property. Also, no entertainment no fireworks, no real parades. A much different experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: How will Trump improve your life? Lower taxes, fewer regulations, stay out of my way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Nice! Get the Cobb Salad and Grapefruit Cake, as well as the Martini flight. My brother went with his family in August. He felt very safe, but make sure you obey the rules on property. Also, no entertainment no fireworks, no real parades. A much different experience. I know someone who went last month. Crowds are low. Wait times are generally less than 30 minutes for most stuff. They suspended the fast pass but its really not needed right now. Only thing that really stinks is there is no dining plan. We usually get the deluxe plan with the 3 sit downs. The way we eat with the 3 sit downs the dining plan is a good deal. They refunded us the money, but we'll probably end up paying a bit more for meals than what the dining plan refund was. We're staying at the beach Club Villa's . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: How will Trump improve your life? He already has financially . That’s first and foremost. If Harris wins get ready for $4-5.00 gas prices again just for starters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: This is the basic answer you hear. You voted for someone because you didn’t like the other person. You didn’t vote for him because he is going to improve your life, your family etc. The same thing was said about Hilary. People voted against her and not Donnie. It works both ways bro in a two party system so to act like it only happens your way...you’re fooled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, White Rain said: It was interesting how much higher the vote totals were this time around across the board. Any massive protest of his handling of the COVID crisis and his general rhetoric were countered by the massive Trump base turnout compared with the last election cycle. Whether you agree or not with his actions with COVID, people still came out to vote for him in much higher numbers then last election. And many more minorities too, which is crazy given the media rhetoric directed at Trump non-stop for years. It's almost like topics such as the economy and public safety are more important to voters than race issues... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yup. And most of the COVID stuff was Trump not keeping his mouth shut on some of the sound bites. I honestly think if he just talked less, tweeted less, and didn't seem so contentious about everything he wins in a landslide. It's not about Biden, this whole election is about Trump. They could've ran an Alpaca up there for the Dems and it likely would've gotten the similar vote. ^^^ THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: This is the basic answer you hear. You voted for someone because you didn’t like the other person. You didn’t vote for him because he is going to improve your life, your family etc. It’s a shame Trump’s personality is what it is, like I said. A lot of people don’t root for the bully or a**hole. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: He already has financially . That’s first and foremost. If Harris wins get ready for $4-5.00 gas prices again just for starters You might have made more money because your company did well during the pandemic lol not because he magically handed you dollars while you slept at night. If he did, let me know how you did it so I can join you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Politics dividing this country, winter snowfall dividing New England. Hate to see it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: ^^^ THIS Yeah and that’s why I laugh when people say Trump didn’t divide the nation further. He literally divided it so much that more than half our population would vote for anything that wasn’t him, even an inanimate object. It wasn’t policies by any stretch, it’s whenever he opens his mouth or hits a keyboard he loses another voter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Another interesting thing, I am not seeing anyone in my little online circle gloating or grandstanding about the results so far. Everyone just seems beaten down and sort of in shock. I don't think this thing went the way anyone expected or hoped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: Another interesting thing, I am not seeing anyone in my little online circle gloating or grandstanding about the results so far. Everyone just seems beaten down and sort of in shock. I don't think this thing went the way anyone expected or hoped. A bitter close election that will be decided by less than 80K votes in 3 states-similar to 2016. Not exactly a mandate and likely 4 yrs of gridlock coming up with R's keeping Senate and Dems losing seats in house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: You might have made more money because your company did well during the pandemic lol not because he magically handed you dollars while you slept at night. If he did, let me know how you did it so I can join you. Corporate taxes are a real thing that has a real impact on how much money goes into our pockets versus the government's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: A bitter close election that will be decided by less than 80K votes in 3 states-similar to 2016. Not exactly a mandate and likely 4 yrs of gridlock coming up with R's keeping Senate and Dems losing seats in house. The results in the House and Senate make it pretty clear there is no blue wave or Biden mandate. The people have chosen near-total gridlock. If you were waiting on the new President to sweep in court packing, free healthcare, and expanded statehood, you will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Lower taxes, fewer regulations, stay out of my way... Got it...generally the same boilerplate, generic Republican positions I hear from most friends and family who lean right. Curious, which type of regs would you abolish? I will say that I’m glad Trump avoided getting pulled into any overseas conflicts in his four years. Foreign policy blunders? Yes, but at least we’re not sending our men and women to fight in a manufactured war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 How did these polling clowns miss the hidden Trump vote again? I think all of us down here on Main Street from both sides of the aisle are aware of this now. These pollsters really have become even more untethered from mainstream reality it would seem. They drank gallons of their own kool-aid. Some of these polls in WI, OH, and FL were way, way off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Still waiting for my taxes to be lowered under this administration... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The GOP also added 11 women to the House. That's big for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 We need more political options, realistic ones. Actual 3rd and 4th parties that can win locally and even nationally. Until then, we divide we bicker we brace for violence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: We need more political options, realistic ones. Actual 3rd and 4th parties that can win locally and even nationally. Until then, we divide we bicker we brace for violence. And some damn term limits. One and done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Corporate taxes are a real thing that has a real impact on how much money goes into our pockets versus the government's. We tried to tell em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwt3650 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The media was the biggest loser in this election. No matter how things shake out, I think people’s trust of the media and polling has to be down near zero, if it wasn’t already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Alright well anyways, I do have a question. What are people planning to do for the Holidays? An honest question. Spending T-Day with my wife's family in CT. This will be her dads last T-Day, so we'd like to make it as normal as possible. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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