WhitinsvilleWX Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Might be a good time to invest in companies that manufacture deep freezers and dry ice equipment... at least in the short term Does Brookline Ice and Coal have an IPO coming up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Yeah. Looks like 95% efficacy and no short term negative effects. I wonder how long immunity will last. I’m guessing a yearly booster According to Pfizer’s data. There are at-risk groups such as pregnant women that still need to be wary, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 We need a pledge from the govt that if we take this vaccine we are released from lockdowns, masks, etc. There is a lot of concern out there that they will mandate a vaccine and then still keep people masked-up and locked down anyway, which would suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 10 hours ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: I’ll have to look into it. Says it’s by prescription. Not sure I understand that or why until I read a little more. That's not going to get as many people to want to get the test. Make it OTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhineasC said: According to Pfizer’s data. There are at-risk groups such as pregnant women that still need to be wary, IMO. And babies. They didn't test that group yet. No hurry though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, PhineasC said: We need a pledge from the govt that if we take this vaccine we are released from lockdowns, masks, etc. There is a lot of concern out there that they will mandate a vaccine and then still keep people masked-up and locked down anyway, which would suck. Of course. Even Fauci said that after the vaccine we'd still have to be careful for awhile. Whatever that means. The message isn't always clear, but I got the sense he was implying masks and social distancing still. F that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Of course. Even Fauci said that after the vaccine we'd still have to be careful for awhile. Whatever that means. The message isn't always clear, but I got the sense he was implying masks and social distancing still. F that. Said in a thick NY accent: we’ll still need public health meh-zuahs for awhile. i.e. Wear the mask and distance till I say so If they wait until there are no positive test, and using that horse shit PCR test, they’ll lay me out at the parlor in a mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Will they put the rims back up on the backboards after the vaccine? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Of course. Even Fauci said that after the vaccine we'd still have to be careful for awhile. Whatever that means. The message isn't always clear, but I got the sense he was implying masks and social distancing still. F that. A tricky problem for many Americans. Don't get the vaccine but be willing to continue with masks, etc.? Get the vaccine and have a document saying you are good and can attend concerts, not wear masks, etc? How would that work? I am guessing my job will require vaccination... we had to for the H1N1 (I think??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, PhineasC said: We need a pledge from the govt that if we take this vaccine we are released from lockdowns, masks, etc. There is a lot of concern out there that they will mandate a vaccine and then still keep people masked-up and locked down anyway, which would suck. Got a link for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Of course. Even Fauci said that after the vaccine we'd still have to be careful for awhile. Whatever that means. The message isn't always clear, but I got the sense he was implying masks and social distancing still. F that. It’s going to be hard to justify jabbing yourself with a rushed, highly-experimental vaccine if it doesn’t even change things for you in terms of restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Got a link for this? Talk to people outside your bubble? Only 46% of Americans say they would even consider getting the vaccine in the first round. Fauci and Cuomo both said restrictions would continue even with a vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Of course. Even Fauci said that after the vaccine we'd still have to be careful for awhile. Whatever that means. The message isn't always clear, but I got the sense he was implying masks and social distancing still. F that. It seems like we'd need to wear masks and try to socially distance while vaccines are being distributed during at least a portion of 2021. Doesnt sound that bad to me. Neither of those things are economically problematic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: A tricky problem for many Americans. Don't get the vaccine but be willing to continue with masks, etc.? Get the vaccine and have a document saying you are good and can attend concerts, not wear masks, etc? How would that work? I am guessing my job will require vaccination... we had to for the H1N1 (I think??) If the vaccine is truly 95% effective and widely available, they need to open us up. Anyone scared of getting the virus can get the vaccine. Those who refuse, clearly don’t care about COVID and we can’t worry about them. The government still keeping everyone restricted indefinitely because some recalcitrant buttheads refuse to the take the vaccine is a scary thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: Talk to people outside your bubble? Only 46% of Americans say they would even consider getting the vaccine in the first round. I'm not sure an EUA vaccine can be mandated by law. I've heard from a reliable source that 40% of healthcare workers are willing to get the shots on a national level. Nursing home residents get next priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, OSUmetstud said: It seems like we'd need to wear masks and try to socially distance while vaccines are being distributed during at least a portion of 2021. Doesnt sound that bad to me. Neither of those things are economically problematic. Sure, but once you get the vaccine the restrictions for you should end. That needs to be the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, OSUmetstud said: It seems like we'd need to wear masks and try to socially distance while vaccines are being distributed during at least a portion of 2021. Doesnt sound that bad to me. Neither of those things are economically problematic. Once there is widespread availability of the vaccine (i.e. no waiting for anyone who wants it), there should be no restrictions. Hopefully that means by the time we get into warm season 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://news.gallup.com/poll/325208/americans-willing-covid-vaccine.aspx 58 percent on latest polling. Democrats, women, college educated, and white more likely to take it than other groups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, South Shore Slop said: I'm not sure an EUA vaccine can be mandated by law. I've heard from a reliable source that 40% of healthcare workers are willing to get the shots on a national level. Nursing home residents get next priority. I'm sure after a certain amount of time has passed, they can mandate it for things like public schools (which already have vaccine requirements).....but yeah, in an absolute sense you can't actually force people to take a vaccine if they don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I feel like giving the end of restrictions a very long tail is exactly how we end up with them never going away fully... You should be able to get the vaccine and a little ID card that allows you to keep the mask off and go wherever you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: https://news.gallup.com/poll/325208/americans-willing-covid-vaccine.aspx 58 percent on latest polling. Democrats, women, college educated, and white more likely to take it than other groups. More super reliable polling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: I'm sure after a certain amount of time has passed, they can mandate it for things like public schools (which already have vaccine requirements).....but yeah, in an absolute sense you can't actually force people to take a vaccine if they don't want to. It was done in mass back in the day for polio. But I doubt they'd do it now...mostly because the anti vax movement is larger than ever and will cause the idiots to revolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: More super reliable polling! I'm sure you got your percentage from a poll too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said: It was done in mass back in the day for polio. But I doubt they'd do it now...mostly because the anti vax movement is larger than ever and will cause the idiots to revolt. Are you surprised that suddenly minorities do not trust this vaccine? Seems kinda ridiculous to call them all idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said: I'm sure you got your percentage from a poll too. Yep. I’m sure the answer is in there somewhere. Good ol’ trusty polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: Are you surprised that suddenly minorities do not trust this vaccine? Seems kinda ridiculous to call them all idiots. Its not suddenly. Its because of things like Tuskegee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhineasC said: More super reliable polling! Ever get outside your bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 They probably couldn't do it for an EUA vaccine anyway. Maybe after full approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, PhineasC said: We need a pledge from the govt that if we take this vaccine we are released from lockdowns, masks, etc. There is a lot of concern out there that they will mandate a vaccine and then still keep people masked-up and locked down anyway, which would suck. Government entities will never commit to that, they will reserve the right to reimpose whatever rules they feel necessary when deemed necessary. Period. I would probably get vaccinated for the sake of those around me but I have no interest in carrying around a “Covid pass” or whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, OSUmetstud said: Its not suddenly. Its because of things like Tuskegee. Ok, but distrust of a rushed, govt-enforced vaccine doesn’t make anyone an idiot. You can feel free to line up to be the first to get jabbed and then don your mask and hunker down at home for another six months anyway. That’s a perfectly legit choice to make. But others will be more wary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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