CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 We clean, and sun, and Stein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 1:10 PM, Baroclinic Zone said: Get out there and seize the day. Weather looks phenomenal for the near term. Get those Fall cleanups done. Expand Yeah... this weekend will feature heavy heavy lawn and yard stuff... put away pool filter parts, screen porch closing... and hopefully some outdoor dining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It was nice not to wake up to the daily covid report across the news. At least the election provides a short term distraction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Worst case this goes to courts and when that happens.. Trump wins. It comes down to PA and MI. If they steal it or not 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Pretty simple, just keep counting. Once done counting, we’ll have a winner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:03 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Pretty simple, just keep counting. Once done counting, we’ll have a winner. Expand Thief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Why is it that the only places that are struggling to count the mail-in ballots and needed to "take a break" last night are the exact same places where Biden needs to the most votes to close the deficits? That seems a bit too on the nose to be a coincidence... FL, CA, TX, NY... all big states that seem to have handled their mail-in ballots just fine. I would expect massive legal challenges to what's going on today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:03 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Pretty simple, just keep counting. Once done counting, we’ll have a winner. Expand I think the question that will get to the SCOTUS will be "what are they counting" and "are they valid ballots." No doubt something is being counted deep inside Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee. Fingers and toes perhaps. They don't seem to be having these counting issues in any states that were decided early last night. Very interesting... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 here's your answer.... By contrast, Republicans who control the Pennsylvania Legislature thwarted efforts by county leaders and the governor to begin processing mail-in ballots there, which as a result did not begin until Election Day. “The legislature has refused to give counties the time they need,” said Amber McReynolds, chief executive of the National Vote at Home Institute, which advocates voting by mail, and the former head of Denver’s election system. “When the president started tweeting about vote by mail, we pretty much lost all the momentum we had with legislatures in certain states. I really wish we hadn’t had the tweeting.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:28 PM, PhineasC said: I think the question that will get to the SCOTUS will be "what are they counting" and "are they valid ballots." No doubt something is being counted deep inside Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee. Fingers and toes perhaps. They don't seem to be having these counting issues in any states that were decided early last night. Very interesting... Expand In PA, I’m guessing the influx of mailed in ballots combined with the PA legislature’s decision to not allow any of those ballots to even be staged until Election Day had something to do with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:30 PM, Angus said: here's your answer.... By contrast, Republicans who control the Pennsylvania Legislature thwarted efforts by county leaders and the governor to begin processing mail-in ballots there, which as a result did not begin until Election Day. “The legislature has refused to give counties the time they need,” said Amber McReynolds, chief executive of the National Vote at Home Institute, which advocates voting by mail, and the former head of Denver’s election system. “When the president started tweeting about vote by mail, we pretty much lost all the momentum we had with legislatures in certain states. I really wish we hadn’t had the tweeting.” Expand That applies to 7 counties which are all Trump country. Not Philly. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/7-pennsylvania-counties-wait-until-after-election-day-to-count-mail-ballots/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:28 PM, PhineasC said: I think the question that will get to the SCOTUS will be "what are they counting" and "are they valid ballots." No doubt something is being counted deep inside Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee. Fingers and toes perhaps. They don't seem to be having these counting issues in any states that were decided early last night. Very interesting... Expand I'm surprised that NH didn't go for Trump based on all the signs I saw up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Right--PA, MI, WI couldn't even start until yesterday I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:34 PM, Whineminster said: I'm surprised that NH didn't go for Trump based on all the signs I saw up there. Expand The Shiva signs make me lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:35 PM, backedgeapproaching said: Right--PA, MI, WI couldn't even start until yesterday I believe. Expand https://www.npr.org/2020/10/23/926258497/when-will-mail-in-ballots-be-counted-see-states-processing-timelines Handy chart. Not sure what Michigan's problem is in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 None of this also explains why the vote tallying in PHL and other places was simply stopped last night... has that ever happened before? Just taking a break on counting over night after Election Day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Looks legit: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:28 PM, PhineasC said: I think the question that will get to the SCOTUS will be "what are they counting" and "are they valid ballots." No doubt something is being counted deep inside Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee. Fingers and toes perhaps. They don't seem to be having these counting issues in any states that were decided early last night. Very interesting... Expand I don't understand slow down in counting. Aren't all of the votes, including mail-ins entered into the counting machine. I mean, they're not hand counting are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:43 PM, Lava Rock said: I don't understand slow down in counting. Aren't all of the votes, including mail-ins entered into the counting machine. I mean, they're not hand counting are they? Expand That's my understanding. I'm sure many of the mail-in ballots are not filled out properly. There has already been discussion over the powers of the election boards to "fix" these ballots before then counting them. This will become a major issue when this hits the courts. The margins in these states will be super-tight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:34 PM, Whineminster said: I'm surprised that NH didn't go for Trump based on all the signs I saw up there. Expand I saw way fewer Trump signs around my area vs 16. Way more for Biden vs Hillary too. I don’t base it on signs, but I’m not surprised by the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I really don’t want to let too much politics into this forum when we have a political forum for that. I don’t mind a few general posts, but let’s keep it from going down the heated debate road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:40 PM, PhineasC said: None of this also explains why the vote tallying in PHL and other places was simply stopped last night... has that ever happened before? Just taking a break on counting over night after Election Day? Expand Where did you see Philly stopping? Maybe its a volume issue or that different cities/counties have different methods. No idea Edit: Philly commissioner said they can do 10-12K per hour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:46 PM, PhineasC said: That's my understanding. I'm sure many of the mail-in ballots are not filled out properly. There has already been discussion over the powers of the election boards to "fix" these ballots before then counting them. This will become a major issue when this hits the courts. The margins in these states will be super-tight. Expand Honestly how do you mess up filling out a ballot? If you can't figure out how to fill out a ballot, we're not going to spend any time deciphering it - throw it out. The long lines at the polls bother me to. It's not fair - you should be able to go in and vote in a half hour or less. It's ridiculous that people have to wait hours to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:49 PM, dendrite said: I really don’t want to let too much politics into this forum when we have a political forum for that. I don’t mind a few general posts, but let’s keep it from going down the heated debate road. Expand No one can figure out how to sign up for AmPol lol. You never get the e-mail to confirm your account. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:46 PM, dendrite said: I saw way fewer Trump signs around my area vs 16. Way more for Biden vs Hillary too. I don’t base it on signs, but I’m not surprised by the outcome. Expand I do agree there were more Biden signs this time too - seemed like there were more in general for all parties. Especially that Corky Messner guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:42 PM, PhineasC said: Looks legit: Expand It was a dump of mailed in vote counts from urban areas. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 2:58 PM, NorEastermass128 said: It was a dump of mailed in vote counts in urban areas. I think you knew that though. Expand We'll see. This will all be looked at by the courts soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 PA is allowed to count ballots received late with no postmark. How is that even legit? That could just be a ballot filled out by a poll-worker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 3:00 PM, PhineasC said: We'll see. This will all be looked at by the courts soon. Expand Is that the game plan on the right? If it’s a frivolous fishing expedition, it’s sad one party will risk our democracy toward its end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 3:04 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Is that the game plan on the right? If it’s a frivolous fishing expedition, it’s sad one party will risk our democracy toward its end. Expand I think both parties are prepared to litigate. Counting ballots with no postmark and received after Election Day is definitely "fishy." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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