Fall Banter and General Discussion

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

28 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I didn't think it had anything to do with moral superiority... and I'm not saying there isn't a lot of money at stake... but it's basic anthropology that the more advanced and prosperous a society gets the longer their population lives and in return the more unacceptable early death becomes.  Since the dawn of time people have been trying methods to get themselves and others to live as long as possible... from witch doctors and potions, to the magic elixirs and fountains of youth.  Humans have always had the desire to prolong life as long as possible.  As one of the most prosperous/advanced countries in the world, early death is much more unacceptable here than it is in say West Africa.

We are really in the "banter" zone but I find this stuff interesting to ponder.

Oh. I didn’t think you were hinting at superior morality. This is simply my theory/opinion given the current state of affairs. While it is in our nature to prolong our lives and keep ourselves as young for as long as possible (as you say, what humans have done for centuries)...the motive, thesedays, is more about the money then at any other point in human history. There is too much cash at stake to cure this disease or reduce the impact of that disease, the first to a covid vaccine, etc. 

A family member works for a big consulting firm who consulted a big pharma corp with how to market opiates. They knew the danger of addiction and death but it was all about the bottom line. That’s just one example and maybe that has skewed my opinion but I’ve read more reports/articles indicating how the medical industry is a profit machine first and foremost. The well-being of society is secondary, sadly.

[dendrite]

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Heavy rrhea?

Nah. Just an unproductive Stein cough.

[Damage In Tolland]

6 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Nah. Just an unproductive Stein cough.

Drought in the chest?

[dendrite]

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Drought in the chest?

He's everywhere.

[PhineasC]

1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

Purely curious, in those comparisons is there a modifier that accounts for change in health care, living conditions, etc?  I could certainly see past pandemics hitting those groups harder.

Have people been claiming this one was worse in those age groups?

The flu is much deadlier for kids than COVID. Stats show this. 

[dryslot]

39 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Drought in the chest?

Dry cough?

[Damage In Tolland]

39 minutes ago, dendrite said:

He's everywhere.

Webbed hands caught in the esophagus?

[HoarfrostHubb]

A couple of weeks old, but there is a theory (not a study) that mask wearing may act as a quasi-vaccine.    Interesting 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200909/could-your-mask-be-a-kind-of-vaccine-against-covid-19

Similar articles abound. 
original NEJM article. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913

[South Shore Slop]

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/

The table below shows confirmed cases of COVID-19 reinfection. The first confirmed case of reinfection was reported in Hong Kong on August 24, and six others were reported later that week. Earlier cases of suspected reinfection could not be confirmed due to a lack of data.

People with SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, may continue to test positive for several months without being sick or infectious. A reinfection is confirmed when testing shows each virus’ genetic makeup is different to a degree which cannot be explained through in-vivo evolution.

For a timeline with detailed information about each case, scroll down.

[moneypitmike]

Evidence of fall at Pit2 this morning.

 

[Ginx snewx]

38 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Evidence of fall at Pit2 this morning.

 

Beauty, how far up river are you?

[dryslot]

1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

Beauty, how far up river are you?

He's just north of BIW in Bath.

[DavisStraight]

2 hours ago, moneypitmike said:

Evidence of fall at Pit2 this morning.

 

So new house is Pit 1 and Maine is still Pit 2? Love to wake up to that scene every morning.

[CoastalWx]

I can't keep track of what MPM has. He's basically a migrant. 

[tamarack]

39 minutes ago, dryslot said:

He's just north of BIW in Bath.

He's north of much of the town as well.  IIRC, he's less than a mile downriver from the Chops, the exit from Merrymeeting Bay.

[dryslot]

6 minutes ago, tamarack said:

He's north of much of the town as well.  IIRC, he's less than a mile downriver from the Chops, the exit from Merrymeeting Bay.

Yes, I thinks he's in North Bath, Towards Beans' Rock.

[Hoosier]

Good read on covid-19 reinfections and vaccines

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-covid-19-reinfection-means-for-vaccines/

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

17 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Good read on covid-19 reinfections and vaccines

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-covid-19-reinfection-means-for-vaccines/

Pretty depressing article.

Sounds like if a certain set of scenarios play out we could be in big trouble... vaccine or not.

[Hoosier]

1 hour ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Pretty depressing article.

Sounds like if a certain set of scenarios play out we could be in big trouble... vaccine or not.

Some positive pieces of info too, like certain populations potentially having longer lasting antibodies (and hopefully immunity).  Of course I'm not sure how you figure out who is going to have longer immunity.

[ORH_wxman]

We’re definitely getting color on the leaves earlier than my previous 3 years here at this house. 

[alex]

It’s getting quite beautiful around here 

[BrianW]

CT is moving ahead with phase 3 except bars and nightclubs will still be closed.

 

[moneypitmike]

14 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Beauty, how far up river are you?

I'm a mile north of Rt. 1

12 hours ago, DavisStraight said:

So new house is Pit 1 and Maine is still Pit 2? Love to wake up to that scene every morning.

My primary house will always be Pit1.  Between being up here this week and envy over Jerry's impending retirement, I am so eager to get up her permanently and rename this one Pit1. Not for a few years yet....though I do buy my lottery tickets, so who knows.

[Typhoon Tip]

5 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

We’re definitely getting color on the leaves earlier than my previous 3 years here at this house. 

I think high altitude smoke assisted this 

[moneypitmike]

Still waters reflecting clouds at dawn.

 

 

[Angus]

Hiked Mount Washington yesterday via Tuckerman's route, at elevation there is some serious leaf colors. Unfortunately, the summit was in the clouds.

On the summit cone came across some guy who I initially thought had fallen and hurt himself. He was just disoriented in the clouds. Got him back on track and stayed with to the summit parking lot. 

[SouthCoastMA]

15 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Pretty depressing article.

Sounds like if a certain set of scenarios play out we could be in big trouble... vaccine or not.

Cheer up

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19:     99.997%
Ages 20-49:  99.98%
Ages 50-69:  99.5%
Ages 70+:       94.6%

[HoarfrostHubb]

1 hour ago, SouthCoastMA said:

Cheer up

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19:     99.997%
Ages 20-49:  99.98%
Ages 50-69:  99.5%
Ages 70+:       94.6%

Much higher numbers of people with long term health issues after “recovering” from the ‘Vid though.   Heart, lungs. 

[dryslot]

1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Much higher numbers of people with long term health issues after “recovering” from the ‘Vid though.   Heart, lungs. 

Is there numbers for that? I saw the above numbers last night for survival rate.

[PhineasC]

In order to determine the rates and severity of these long term effects, we need to follow survivors for 5-20 years after recovery and also control for the many other factors that could be causing their lingering issues (such as existing lung tissue scarring from smoking). There is no way to be speaking definitively on long term effects right now. It's just not possible.