LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Interesting track...... guys, look up Bertha 1996. This one might have a track similar to that one.....65 mph TS when it made landfall near JFK. The track is close enough to the ocean for it not to weaken rapidly, plus its speed up the coast will help it maintain its structure up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 This one also had a similar track, but of course was much stronger- Cat 4 in southern NJ and Cat 3 in the city, when the eye moved right over Manhattan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1821_Norfolk_and_Long_Island_hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Satellite imagery shows the center is on eastern edge of the cone. Correct me if I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: Satellite imagery shows the center is on eastern edge of the cone. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yep, especially the European has been too far west with this consistently ever since it said it was going to make LF in South Florida. This will probably make landfall near Cape Fear like Bertha 1996 did and track up to western LI at a similar intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 there was a hurricane in 1949 that stayed off shore but caused damage in Brooklyn... 1949 hurricane... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52998805 http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52998811/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Yep, especially the European has been too far west with this consistently ever since it said it was going to make LF in South Florida. This will probably make landfall near Cape Fear like Bertha 1996 did and track up to western LI at a similar intensity. Western LI isn’t a little East that’s Way East then any model I think maybe nyc or just west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Western LI isn’t a little East that’s Way East then any model I think maybe nyc or just west I’d rather take the 2-4” of rain over the maybe 70mph winds so it can keep drifting East, please. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 quick hitter on the nam-precip is done by 7-8pm tomorrow eve 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neblizzard Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: quick hitter on the nam-precip is done by 7-8pm tomorrow eve This was always was a fast mover I don’t think anyone is shocked by that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 It doesn't look like it's moving that far east to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Nam barely has any rain for the city east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Nam barely has any rain for the city east classic east of track situation like we saw with Fay 3K NAM is even further west with the 2 inch rain line over the Delaware River and west 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, nycwinter said: watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, nycwinter said: watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. Fay was like that east of the city-one firehose band and that was it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Is it safe to say the worst of the storm will be from about 11 am tomorrow morning thru about 9 pm tomorrow night? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: LOL Agree These storms can bring surprises with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Worst winds tomorrow between 4pm and 8pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 You guys put way, way too much weight towards the NAM. It's a short term model designed for forecasting convection, not a complex tropical system that's transitioning and interacting with a trough. The rain isn't going to be confined to that one consolidated area. You're going to see multiple bands on the Eastern side. Just look at the current radar situation over the Mid-Atlantic. That MCS pushing into DC is non-existent on the NAM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, NJwx85 said: You guys put way, way too much weight towards the NAM. It's a short term model designed for forecasting convection, not a complex tropical system that's transitioning and interacting with a trough. The rain isn't going to be confined to that one consolidated area. You're going to see multiple bands on the Eastern side. Just look at the current radar situation over the Mid-Atlantic. That MCS pushing into DC is non-existent on the NAM. I see your point but every model has that same narrow band of heavy rain.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: I see your point but every model has that same narrow band of heavy rain.... Any wobble can have a big effect on the path 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 not saying the nam isnt wrong but isnt it not a good model for tropical weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Brian5671 said: I see your point but every model has that same narrow band of heavy rain.... You cannot expect models to pick up on the nuances of what's going to happen. Either way, with the center passing overhead or just West, we've known for awhile the biggest threat was the wind, not the rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Snowlover11 said: not saying the nam isnt wrong but isnt it not a good model for tropical weather? FYP 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: not saying the nam isnt wrong but isnt it not a good model for tropical weather? interestingly the 3K nam was one of the few models to show a miss to Florida's east coast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: interestingly the 3K nam was one of the few models to show a miss to Florida's east coast. A broken clock is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rtd208 said: Is it safe to say the worst of the storm will be from about 11 am tomorrow morning thru about 9 pm tomorrow night? May be done by 5 or 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, jm1220 said: I’d rather take the 2-4” of rain over the maybe 70mph winds so it can keep drifting East, please. were you in Long Beach during Bertha in 1996? How much rain and wind do you remember us getting from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: A broken clock is right twice a day. NAMs big win was the Jan 2016 mega snowstorm. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: May be done by 5 or 6 More likely 7-8PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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