snowlover2 Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 New day 1. Quote DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1259 AM CDT FRI JUN 26 2020 VALID 261200Z - 271200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PARTS OF EASTERN IOWA...SOUTHERN WISCONSIN...NORTHERN ILLINOIS...NORTHERN INDIANA AND SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN... ..SUMMARY A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE FROM NORTHEAST IOWA ACROSS SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS INTO SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ADDITIONAL STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS ARE POSSIBLE FROM THE MID MISSOURI VALLEY TO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ..GREAT LAKES/UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/MID MISSOURI VALLEY A SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TODAY AND INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION. AT THE SURFACE, A COLD FRONT WILL ADVANCE SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE MID MISSOURI VALLEY AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. AHEAD OF THE FRONT, A MOIST AIRMASS WILL BE IN PLACE WITH SURFACE DEWPOINTS GENERALLY IN THE UPPER 60S TO NEAR 70 F. AS SURFACE HEATING TAKES PLACE TODAY, MODERATE INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AHEAD OF THE FRONT ACROSS MUCH OF THE MOIST SECTOR. ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME SPREAD IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE, MODEL CONSENSUS SUGGESTS THAT CONVECTION WILL FIRST INITIATE FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA SOUTHWARD INTO IOWA EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THIS CONVECTION IS FORECAST TO MOVE QUICKLY EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS BY EARLY AFTERNOON REACHING SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN BY LATE AFTERNOON. IT APPEARS THAT A LINEAR MCS WILL DEVELOP AS THIS CONVECTION ORGANIZES AND MOVES QUICKLY EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION. ALTHOUGH THE SCENARIO IS STILL FAR FROM CERTAIN, THE SETUP SHOULD BECOME FAVORABLE FOR A FAST-MOVING LINE SEGMENT THIS AFTERNOON. MLCAPE IS FORECAST TO REACH THE 1500 TO 2500 J/KG RANGE ALONG A CORRIDOR FROM EASTERN IOWA INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS. CONVECTION SHOULD MOVE JUST SLIGHTLY TO THE SOUTH OF DUE EAST, ALONG THE INSTABILITY GRADIENT FROM NORTHEAST OF DES MOINES TO NEAR CHICAGO AND THEN EASTWARD TO NEAR DETROIT. THE NAM IS FORECASTING A 40 TO 50 KT MID-LEVEL SPEED MAX TO MOVE EASTWARD TO NEAR CHICAGO BY 21Z. THIS FEATURE, ALONG WITH AN ASSOCIATED SPEED MAX AT LOWER LEVELS, SHOULD ACT AS A REAR INFLOW JET TO THIS CONVECTIVE COMPLEX. THIS WILL HELP ANY LINE SEGMENT TO OBTAIN BOWING CHARACTERISTICS AND ENHANCE THE WIND POTENTIAL. NAM FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALONG THE EXPECTED TRACK OF THE MCS SHOW VEERED LOW-LEVEL WINDS TO THE SOUTH-SOUTHWEST AND VERY STEEP LAPSE RATES IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER. THIS SHOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR WIND DAMAGE ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF THE LINE. SOME UNCERTAINTY EXISTS CONCERNING THE NORTH-TO-SOUTH EXTENT OF THE WIND DAMAGE THREAT BUT HAVE USED MODEL CONSENSUS TO PLACE AN ENHANCED RISK IN THE AREA WITH THE GREATEST PROBABILITY OF SEVERE. ALTHOUGH ISOLATED LARGE HAIL WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE, THIS SHOULD BE THE LESSER OF THE TWO THREATS. THE SEVERE THREAT WITH THIS LINEAR MCS SHOULD REACH SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN AND NORTHERN OHIO BY EARLY EVENING. FURTHER TO THE WEST ACROSS THE MID MISSOURI VALLEY, A POCKET OF STRONG INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP BY AFTERNOON. AT THE SURFACE, A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTH-SOUTHEASTWARD IN THE MID MISSOURI VALLEY BY MID TO LATE AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH DEEP-LAYER SHEAR SHOULD BE RELATIVELY WEAK, STEEP LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR A WIND DAMAGE THREAT WITH MULTICELLS ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE FRONT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Man, Broyles is everywhere. What, does he work like 70hrs a week? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 They didn't really go into detail about the potential for more than one round. I had been thinking the better threat would probably not arrive here until after dark but will have to watch the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 Marginal for most of the southern sub on new day 2. Quote DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0101 AM CDT FRI JUN 26 2020 VALID 271200Z - 281200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM EASTERN OHIO TO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND COASTS... ..SUMMARY SCATTERED AFTERNOON THUNDERSTORMS MAY POSE A RISK FOR MAINLY DAMAGING WINDS ACROSS MUCH OF PENNSYLVANIA AND PORTIONS OF SURROUNDING STATES ON SATURDAY. ..SYNOPSIS GRADUAL AMPLIFICATION OF THE UPPER FLOW FIELD OVER THE U.S. IS EXPECTED SATURDAY, AS SHORT-WAVE TROUGHING DIGGING SOUTHEASTWARD OUT OF THE GULF OF ALASKA LEADS TO A LARGE EXPANSION OF CYCLONIC FLOW OVER THE WESTERN U.S. THROUGH THE PERIOD. AS A RESULT, DOWNSTREAM RIDGING WILL INCREASE OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND CENTRAL CANADA, STILL FURTHER EAST, SOME AMPLIFICATION OF TROUGHING IS EXPECTED OVER EASTERN CANADA AND INTO THE NORTHEASTERN CONUS. MEANWHILE, SEVERAL VORTICITY MAXIMA ARE FORECAST TO SHIFT EASTWARD IN A TRAIN-LIKE MANNER, FROM THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS ACROSS THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY AND INTO THE MID ATLANTIC REGION/SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE PERIOD. AT THE SURFACE, A VERY WEAK/ILL-DEFINED BAROCLINIC ZONE IS PROGGED TO EXTEND FROM THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD ACROSS THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY STATES AND THEN WESTWARD TO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. IN THE WEST, A STRENGTHENING COLD FRONT WILL SHIFT SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS NORTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE COUNTRY, REACHING AS FAR EAST AS THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS OVERNIGHT. ..EASTERN OHIO TO LONG ISLAND CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO BE ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD, WHICH CONTINUES TO COMPLICATE THE FORECAST, WITH RESPECT TO DIAGNOSING THE THERMODYNAMIC QUALITY OF THE AIRMASS. STILL, GIVEN ENHANCED LOW- TO MID-LEVEL FLOW ACROSS THE AREA, AND WEAK COLD FRONT MOVING ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES, SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS -- POSSIBLY IN MULTIPLE EPISODES -- WILL LIKELY OCCUR ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE EVENING. RISK FOR LOCALLY DAMAGING WINDS REMAINS APPARENT, AND THUS WILL MAINTAIN 15%/SLGT RISK FOR WIND ACROSS THIS REGION. ..OHIO AND MID MISSISSIPPI/LOWER MISSOURI VALLEYS AS SEVERAL MID-LEVEL DISTURBANCES EMBEDDED IN MODERATE WESTERLY MID-LEVEL FLOW TRAVERSE THIS REGION, SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP IN A DESTABILIZING AFTERNOON AIRMASS -- IN THE VICINITY OF A WEAK/DIFFUSE BAROCLINIC ZONE LYING ACROSS THE AREA. AN AMPLE COMBINATION OF CAPE AND SHEAR IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE REGION TO SUGGEST THAT A FEW STRONGER STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING LOCALLY DAMAGING WINDS, AND MARGINAL HAIL, SUPPORTING THE INTRODUCTION OF 5%/MRGL RISK ACROSS THIS REGION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: They didn't really go into detail about the potential for more than one round. I had been thinking the better threat would probably not arrive here until after dark but will have to watch the afternoon. hmm you got a good point. but with the uncertainty in the models it looks like another not so straight forward event. pretty dynamic atmosphere going on like june 10th. if the first batch dont stabilize too much i do wonder also if maybe a secondary MCS would come along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Nice discussion from LOT this morning: Quote AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL 312 AM CDT FRI JUN 26 2020 .SHORT TERM... 312 AM CDT THROUGH SATURDAY... AN ACTIVE PERIOD OF WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH THIS EVENING, WITH POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF THUNDERSTORMS, INCLUDING A SEVERE WEATHER THREAT THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ONGOING STRONG ISENTROPIC ASCENT ON THE NOSE OF 925-850 HPA LLJ IN THE 305-310K LAYER IS FORCING A LINE OF CONVECTION FROM EAST-CENTRAL IOWA INTO WEST-CENTRAL ILLINOIS AS OF 3AM. THIS LINE WILL BEGIN TO OUTRUN BETTER MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND LIKELY GRADUALLY LOSE INTENSITY, ESPECIALLY AS THE LLJ WEAKENS AROUND AND AFTER SUNRISE. HOWEVER, EXPECTATIONS ARE THAT THE LINE WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT ENE ACROSS THE CWA THROUGH MID-MORNING, WITH THE HIGHEST COVERAGE AND STRONGEST STORMS FAVORED ACROSS NORTH-CENTRAL ILLINOIS AROUND AND SHORTLY AFTER DAYBREAK. EVEN WITH POOR LAPSE RATES, THE COMBINATION OF EFFECTIVE SHEAR AROUND 30 KNOTS AND DECENT SYNOPTIC FORCING COULD ALLOW A STRONG STORM OR TWO TO PRODUCE SMALL HAIL. OF ADDITIONAL CONCERN IS A WELL-DEFINED MCV WITH CONVECTION THAT HAS MAINTAINED ITSELF ACROSS NORTHERN IOWA SINCE LAST EVENING WITH ASSISTANCE OF THE LLJ. THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS MCV AND ASSOCIATED CONVECTION IS ROUGHLY ALONG OR JUST NORTH OF THE WI STATE LINE FROM 6-7AM AROUND ROCKFORD TO 8-9AM AROUND WAUKEGAN. LIKE WITH THE BAND OF CONVECTION TO THE WEST, THE COMPLEX WILL ENCOUNTER AN INCREASINGLY LESS FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH EASTWARD EXTENT. GUSTY WINDS CAN BE EXPECTED FOR WITH ANY CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE GIVEN ANTECEDENT DRIER AIR AND RESULTANT HIGHER DCAPE. WHAT WILL ALSO BE OF NOTE IS A POTENTIAL REMNANT OUTFLOW BOUNDARY AND ITS ROLE IN CONVECTION LATER IN THE DAY. FOCUS THEN SHIFTS TO THE TRAIN OF MCVS UPSTREAM IN THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS EARLY THIS MORNING. AFTER THE EARLY TO MID-MORNING CONVECTION CLEARS THE CWA, AN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT SHOULD DEVELOP AS LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE AND MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES INCREASE. RESIDUAL OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES AND UPSTREAM CONVECTION LIMIT CONFIDENCE ON THE NORTHWARD EXTENT OF THE MORE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT, BUT CURRENT INDICATIONS ARE THAT AREAS AT LEAST AS FAR NORTH AS THE I-88 CORRIDOR (AND POTENTIALLY THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE CWA) = SHOULD BECOME PRIMED FOR CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE ONE CONCERN THAT COULD DERAIL THE FORECAST BEYOND LATE THIS MORNING IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PAIR OF MCVS OVER NORTHEAST NEBRASKA TRACKING EASTWARD EARLY THIS MORNING. TIMING OF THE FEATURES INTO THE CWA FOCUS IN THE LATE MORNING TO EARLY AFTERNOON PERIOD. IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THESE MCVS COULD INITIATE CONVECTION IN NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA AND SHIFT THE LOCATION OF ANY EFFECTIVE OUTFLOW BOUNDARY FARTHER SOUTH WHILE ALSO CARRYING AN INCREASING SEVERE RISK FOR DAMAGING WINDS. A MID-LEVEL (AROUND 700 HPA) SPEED MAX WILL DEVELOP IN CONCERT WITH A PASSING RIGHT-ENTRANCE REGION OF AN UPPER JET LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND ESPECIALLY EARLY TO MID EVENING. MEANWHILE, A COLD FRONT WILL TRACK SOUTHEAST INTO THE CWA THIS EVENING. IN AREAS NOT AFFECTED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED POTENTIAL CONVECTION FROM THE MCVS, ROBUST DEEP CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NORTHWEST OF THE AREA BY LATE AFTERNOON AND SHIFT SE INTO THE AREA EARLY TO MID-LEVEL AS EITHER A SOLID LINE OR MULTIPLE WAVES/BOWING SEGMENTS (LEWP). ANY CONVECTION WILL BE CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS, ESPECIALLY WITH BOWING CLUSTERS. WHILE A RELATIVELY LOW RISK, CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR BRIEF TORNADOES GIVEN THE POTENTIAL QLCS/LEWP EVOLUTION OF CONVECTION AND MODEST LOW-LEVEL SRH. IN ADDITION TO THE SEVERE THREAT, LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN IS ALSO POSSIBLE WITH GENERALLY BOUNDARY PARALLEL FLOW AND PWATS NEARING 2". WITH THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT, OVERALL CONVECTION SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH TO LIMIT THE FLASH FLOOD RISK, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE OVERALL DRY WEATHER OVER THE PAST MONTH. THE AREA OF MOST CONCERN WILL BE ACROSS THE NORTHERN TWO TIERS OF COUNTIES LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH MID-EVENING BEFORE THE COLD FRONT AND DEVELOPING COLD POOL OUTFLOWS FOSTER MORE SOUTHWARD PROPAGATION WITH CONVECTION. CONVECTION SHOULD THEN CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY SHIFT SOUTH THROUGH THE CWA THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT. KLUBER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Now thats interesting.. I wonder what the next SPC outlook is going to be. Potentially a very active day ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 wish i wasn't as busy but today looks close to ideal for my tastes when it comes to summer convection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, A-L-E-K said: wish i wasn't as busy but today looks close to ideal for my tastes when it comes to summer convection Over/under on rounds of storms - 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 sounds about right hoping for a nice shelf down the lake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This first small MCS racing east along the WI/IL border will be of no issue for later activity. If it can sustain, it could produce in IN/MI/OH later.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 HRRR has been consistent in showing the best potential in/ near the new SPC ENH. Can’t believe I’m going to say it, but looks like good positioning by Broyles. About damn time.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlon62 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Pre First Round aka the play-in game. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: This first small MCS racing east along the WI/IL border will be of no issue for later activity. If it can sustain, it could produce in IN/MI/OH later. Models overnight have not handled most of the convection out in Iowa. We’ll see how that plays into destabilization later. Plenty of time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Can see our two main MCVs (X'd below) this morning on composite loops (link is time sensitive). The one in SW MN is what will drive the primary swath of severe later in the day. You can even see the faster flow in the light precip on its southern flank. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Models overnight have not handled most of the convection out in Iowa. We’ll see how that plays into destabilization later. Plenty of time though. The HRRR seems to have the best handle on thing overall currently. As you said, still way early, and I have little to no worry as of now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 tops warmed with the stuff over IL p quick here now and the IA stuff that was festering on the nose of the llj seems next to go and speaking of jets, the inflow that the hrrr gets going with the mvc later looks prime time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 KLOT radar has been down for about 20 min. Would be a crappy day to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: and speaking of jets, the inflow that the hrrr gets going with the mvc later looks prime time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEILwxbo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, purduewx80 said: KLOT radar has been down for about 20 min. Would be a crappy day to lose it. KLOT just tweeted they have technicians working on it but no estimated time of restoration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, purduewx80 said: Models overnight have not handled most of the convection out in Iowa. We’ll see how that plays into destabilization later. Plenty of time though. This feels like it has to be said in pretty much every setup (the models were poor in handling the early convection). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Pros: MCV barrelling down the Iowa/Minnesota border, should reach here during the afternoon, ample moisture return Cons: All that convection between here and the MCV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 With all this crapvection, the current storms along the WI/IL border may be the event lol. If we get missed south, the complaint thread may be used 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 It looks pretty good for southeast Wisconsin and northern Illinois, but storms may or may not fire in time for Cedar Rapids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I dunno... every time there is morning convection it blows it for the afternoon.... The stuff by the MI river is intensifying and robbing moisture for afternoon... could be a late evening event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 9:19 AM, RyanDe680 said: I dunno... every time there is morning convection it blows it for the afternoon.... The stuff by the MI river is intensifying and robbing moisture for afternoon... could be a late evening event. Stuff along the river is fading. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This arc of activity currently moving though appears to be the expected WAA/WF storms. The small cluster earlier was tied the initial passing MCV.Activity behind this arc, around DVN, is fading with good clearing behind it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, wisconsinwx said: With all this crapvection, the current storms along the WI/IL border may be the event lol. If we get missed south, the complaint thread may be used I'll take non-severe if it has good lighting. I just don't want EVERYTHING to miss way to the south. Need the rain. I hate these E-W oriented setups where one row of counties gets trained while others get crap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 hydro issues on the table across northern tier if things play out right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: hydro issues on the table across northern tier if things play out right Luckily June has been pretty dry, but these types of orientations always get me worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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