Central PA Summer 2020: Hoping The Heat Makes a Hasty Retreat

[Bubbler86]

1 hour ago, paweather said:

Looks like some boring weather days this week although not the heat. The West is getting the excessive heat now not a good time as wildfire season is approaching. 

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Just took the Drought 2020 version of a Jebwalk.  Here is the front yard post the rain the past week or two.  Dead on dead.  Hopefully no one drops a match on it.  

 

[paweather]

2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

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Just took the Drought 2020 version of a Jebwalk.  Here is the front yard post the rain the past week or two.  Dead on dead.  Hopefully no drops a match on it.  

 

WOW. I thought mine was bad. 

[canderson]

10 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

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Just took the Drought 2020 version of a Jebwalk.  Here is the front yard post the rain the past week or two.  Dead on dead.  Hopefully no drops a match on it.  

 

You should apply to host a British Open. 

[Bubbler86]

8 minutes ago, paweather said:

WOW. I thought mine was bad. 

It was a fully green yard in April albeit a mix of grasses which explains the occasional green spot though some of that green is crab weeds that have taken advantage of their new found space. 

[paweather]

5 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

It was a fully green yard in April albeit a mix of grasses which explains the occasional green spot though some of that green is crab weeds that have taken advantage of their new found space. 

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[Bubbler86]

11 minutes ago, canderson said:

You should apply to host a British Open. 

Ha, that is a damn witty reply. 

[Bubbler86]

4 minutes ago, paweather said:

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I am hoping Blizz has me down for that on his Christmas list. 

[paweather]

Pretty cool Drought Tracker NWS posted this:

https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/drought/?fbclid=IwAR2tKlgWE8-UJyMKMHtZ5vr9mWPusm0cAsDLQWU1RO5hVBI4Z8dz2bhsYLw

[Bubbler86]

2 minutes ago, paweather said:

Pretty cool Drought Tracker NWS posted this:

https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/drought/?fbclid=IwAR2tKlgWE8-UJyMKMHtZ5vr9mWPusm0cAsDLQWU1RO5hVBI4Z8dz2bhsYLw

Interesting.  I like how you can put a zip code in and it focuses the bottom graph on your area since 2000.  

[paweather]

6 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Interesting.  I like how you can put a zip code in and it focuses the bottom graph on your area since 2000.  

Yep. Really nice tracker. 

[canderson]

44 minutes ago, paweather said:

Pretty cool Drought Tracker NWS posted this:

https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/drought/?fbclid=IwAR2tKlgWE8-UJyMKMHtZ5vr9mWPusm0cAsDLQWU1RO5hVBI4Z8dz2bhsYLw

Very cool tracker, indeed. Thanks for sharing!

[Bubbler86]

17 minutes ago, canderson said:

Very cool tracker, indeed. Thanks for sharing!

They are holding massive pool parties in Wuhan now. Emergency over?  Do they know something we do not? 

[canderson]

19 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

They are holding massive pool parties in Wuhan now. Emergency over?  Do they know something we do not? 

Yes they eventually took a virus seriously and locked sh1t down. 

[Itstrainingtime]

It's been confirmed that Death Valley, CA reached 130F on Sunday. That goes down as the hottest temperature on earth since 1930!

[Superstorm]

It's been confirmed that Death Valley, CA reached 130F on Sunday. That goes down as the hottest temperature on earth since 1930!

At least from an official measuring site.

Yeah, that is a scorcher. Dry heat though, lol.


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[Bubbler86]

3 minutes ago, canderson said:

Yes they eventually took a virus seriously and locked sh1t down. 

True but why have a party with many thousands and risk starting it back up again.  

[paweather]

Just now, Superstorm said:

At least from an official measuring site.

Yeah, that is a scorcher. Dry heat though, lol.


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Vegas high today 113F

[Bubbler86]

Just now, Superstorm said:

At least from an official measuring site.

Yeah, that is a scorcher. Dry heat though, lol.


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The old "dry heat actually makes it feel cooler theory".  130 actually feels like 89 with the sweet dry air. 

[Itstrainingtime]

Just now, Superstorm said:

At least from an official measuring site.

Yeah, that is a scorcher. Dry heat though, lol.


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Correct, I should have added that. 

My son is in southern CA this week in Riverside county - neat little tidy 108 yesterday where he was. 

[MAG5035]

1 hour ago, Bubbler86 said:

Interesting.  I like how you can put a zip code in and it focuses the bottom graph on your area since 2000.  

If you click that graph on the bottom it'll actually change the map to what it looked like down to the week. Most of the Sus Valley (and no one east of the river) currently isn't even in D0, if you really want dry click around Mid-March 2002, a good portion of the lower Sus Valley was red (extreme D3). Guess I never realized how dry that non-winter was in 2001-2002. As dry as it's been for well.. most in here, we're still in what would be considered a short term drought. 

[paweather]

12 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

If you click that graph on the bottom it'll actually change the map to what it looked like down to the week. Most of the Sus Valley (and no one east of the river) currently isn't even in D0, if you really want dry click around Mid-March 2002, a good portion of the lower Sus Valley was red (extreme D3). Guess I never realized how dry that non-winter was in 2001-2002. As dry as it's been for well.. most in here, we're still in what would be considered a short term drought. 

Excellent Glad you like it Mag. 

[Bubbler86]

32 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

If you click that graph on the bottom it'll actually change the map to what it looked like down to the week. Most of the Sus Valley (and no one east of the river) currently isn't even in D0, if you really want dry click around Mid-March 2002, a good portion of the lower Sus Valley was red (extreme D3). Guess I never realized how dry that non-winter was in 2001-2002. As dry as it's been for well.. most in here, we're still in what would be considered a short term drought. 

I saw that yet I have never been involved in a double digit deficit over a 3 month period like we were in July and going back into it now with almost no rain in two weeks.   it was not even that bad in Florida during the wildfires that closed I95 back in the mid 2000's.  I guess the precursor wet spring limited the drought rating of this drought but definitely the driest 3 month period I can recall.  Part of the deal is that the dry months were also supposed to be the 3 wettest months of the year I believe. 

 

Correction-May and June are the two wettest months on Average at MDT.  July is not number 3, September is.    

[MAG5035]

2 hours ago, Bubbler86 said:

I saw that yet I have never been involved in a double digit deficit over a 3 month period like we were in July and going back into it now with almost no rain in two weeks.   it was not even that bad in Florida during the wildfires that closed I95 back in the mid 2000's.  I guess the precursor wet spring limited the drought rating of this drought but definitely the driest 3 month period I can recall.  Part of the deal is that the dry months were also supposed to be the 3 wettest months of the year I believe. 

 

Correction-May and June are the two wettest months on Average at MDT.  July is not number 3, September is.    

Which climate station has a double digit deficit over 3 months? Any departure like that in this region is pretty severe. That would be like literally having no precipitation for 90 days for most areas in this region.  I know MDT has been pretty dry but certainly not to that degree. The precip departure in the monthly climate summaries from May/June/July were -1.90"/+0.21/-3.26". So that's pretty sizable (especially July)  but not double digits. That's also not including Hurricane Isaias and those couple wet days either side the first week of August which has MDT at 3.45" for the current month (already running slightly above August's 3.2" average). That puts MDT departures at -1.39" since June 1st and -0.01" since January 1st. Likely why the drought monitor's D0 zone barely gets to the river in the Sus Valley. Those are pretty ordinary numbers.

 

 

[Bubbler86]

14 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

Which climate station has a double digit deficit over 3 months? Any departure like that in this region is pretty severe. That would be like literally having no precipitation for 90 days for most areas in this region.  I know MDT has been pretty dry but certainly not to that degree. The precip departure in the monthly climate summaries from May/June/July were -1.90"/+0.21/-3.26". So that's pretty sizable (especially July)  but not double digits. That's also not including Hurricane Isaias and those couple wet days either side the first week of August which has MDT at 3.45" for the current month (already running slightly above August's 3.2" average). That puts MDT departures at -1.39" since June 1st and -0.01" since January 1st. Likely why the drought monitor's D0 zone barely gets to the river in the Sus Valley. Those are pretty ordinary numbers.

 

 

When you say climate station you will have to trust my own measurements which are not scientific but are close enough talk about large scale deficits.  The average rain for MDT for May, June and July is somewhere in the area of 12".  Until Late July my house had received about 2.25" from early May to that late July point putting us about 10" behind normal for MDT.  We rose to about 5" with the recent rains in late July and early August  but now have gone over two weeks with less than 3/4" total so if you say one should have 15-16" for May-end of August we have had about 5.75" in that time frame putting us back up to about a double digit deficit again if it does not rain much in the next week to 10 days. .  We only had about 1.25" from the Hurricane here.  HGR is much closer to me than MDT but I have been using MDT to keep with the theme of this forum but I am actually about 60 miles west of MDT.  @Cashtown_Coop can give much more exact measurements and he had about 2.25" in a day once recently so he is not going to be double digit but I suspect he is 6-8" behind normal from early May to late August. 

[MAG5035]

100% chance of precip here tonight, plus some early fall foliage lol.

 

[Bubbler86]

1 minute ago, MAG5035 said:

100% chance of precip here tonight, plus some early fall foliage lol.

 

Some home insurances will cover re-sodding a yard destroyed by a drought...just a thought.   Otherwise the triple point supercell in the pic will have to do I guess. 

[Santa Clause]

My yard is completely dead as well, so I feel the pain of some of you guys lol.

[MAG5035]

49 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

When you say climate station you will have to trust my own measurements which are not scientific but are close enough talk about large scale deficits.  The average rain for MDT for May, June and July is somewhere in the area of 12".  Until Late July my house had received about 2.25" from early May to that late July point putting us about 10" behind normal for MDT.  We rose to about 5" with the recent rains in late July and early August  but now have gone over two weeks with less than 3/4" total so if you say one should have 15-16" for May-end of August we have had about 5.75" in that time frame putting us back up to about a double digit deficit again if it does not rain much in the next week to 10 days. .  We only had about 1.25" from the Hurricane here.  HGR is much closer to me than MDT but I have been using MDT to keep with the theme of this forum but I am actually about 60 miles west of MDT.  @Cashtown_Coop can give much more exact measurements and he had about 2.25" in a day once recently so he is not going to be double digit but I suspect he is 6-8" behind normal from early May to late August. 

Yea I definitely don't doubt there's more localized parts of the area that have been a lot worse off, and the center of the widespread drought conditions have been persisting right in the middle of the state. I knew you were down there west of Cashtown, there's just not a lot of official climate sites. I take your word for it, I mean I'm in the same boat haha but I dunno if I got a double digit deficit. If I were to make an educated guess based off of KAOO"s climate numbers which is 20 miles south of here, I'd say we're probably 6-8" off May/June/July. I need to get a weather station rigged up at my place so I can start keeping track of this stuff more accurately here.  I was actually surprised to see MDT wasn't that far off average wise, although it looked like they were about 4-5" off until the first week of August with the hurricane and thunderstorms.   

[Bubbler86]

5 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

My yard is completely dead as well, so I feel the pain of some of you guys lol.

Yea, the drought masters have your area and a bit south being the epicenter of the worst right now. 

[MAG5035]

8 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Some home insurances will cover re-sodding a yard destroyed by a drought...just a thought.   Otherwise the triple point supercell in the pic will have to do I guess. 

Haha yea I'm just trying to get some water on the lawn in a couple places at time. I have a pretty big yard and I'm trying not to rack up the water bill too much haha. It was pretty well established so I'm hoping it's dormant and not completely roasted. Guess I'll find out.