snowlover2 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 An enhanced area has been added to southern MN and parts of west WI on the new day 2. Severe storms could be possible again on Wednesday farther south across IL/IN/OH. Quote DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1259 AM CDT MON JUN 01 2020 VALID 021200Z - 031200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST AND MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TUESDAY ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. ..UPPER MIDWEST INCLUDING EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA TO WISCONSIN SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE REGION, PARTICULARLY TUESDAY LATE AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING WITHIN A CORRIDOR SPANNING FAR EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA, SOUTHERN MINNESOTA INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. A FLATTENING/STRENGTHENING BELT OF NORTHERN-TIER WESTERLIES (50+ KT AT 500 MB) WILL INFLUENCE THE REGION ON TUESDAY AS A LOW-AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGH CROSSES THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES AND INTERNATIONAL BORDER VICINITY. AN INCREASINGLY MOIST AIR MASS WITH AROUND 70F SURFACE DEWPOINTS IS EXPECTED NEAR A WSW/ENE-ORIENTED FRONT THAT WILL EXTEND ROUGHLY FROM THE SOUTH DAKOTA/NEBRASKA BORDER INTO SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN BY LATE AFTERNOON. AN EASTWARD-ADVECTING ELEVATED MIXED LAYER AND RELATED CAPPING WILL TEND TO HINDER DEEP CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THE FRONT, WHILE OTHERWISE CONTRIBUTING TO 3000-4000 J/KG MLCAPE NEAR THE FRONT AS INHIBITION ERODES BY TUESDAY MID/LATE AFTERNOON. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT SCATTERED STORMS ARE MOST LIKELY TO INITIALLY DEVELOP ACROSS EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA/SOUTHWEST MINNESOTA BY MID/LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON, ALTHOUGH THE RESIDUAL INFLUENCES OF POTENTIAL EARLY DAY CONVECTION ACROSS NORTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA LEAD TO SOME TIMING/SPATIAL UNCERTAINTIES. REGARDLESS, AN INCREASE IN SURFACE-BASED CONVECTION IS EXPECTED ALONG THE INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE FRONTAL ZONE. VERTICAL SHEAR (30-45 KT EFFECTIVE) WILL BE MAXIMIZED ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE FRONT, WITH INITIAL SUPERCELLS EXPECTED GIVEN THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY. LARGE HAIL (POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT 2+ INCH) SHOULD BE THE PRIMARY HAZARD INITIALLY. HOWEVER, STORMS WILL LIKELY CLUSTER/ORGANIZE AND GROW UPSCALE DURING THE EVENING AS THEY MOVE EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS SOUTHERN MINNESOTA, SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND NORTHERN IOWA. THE DAMAGING WIND POTENTIAL WOULD LIKELY INCREASE ACCORDINGLY. THE STORMS WILL LIKELY REACH THE SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN VICINITY BY LATE TUESDAY NIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Day 3 has a slight risk over a large part of the southern sub. Quote DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0242 AM CDT MON JUN 01 2020 VALID 031200Z - 041200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHEAST STATES... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE ON WEDNESDAY FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MIDWEST, OHIO VALLEY, AND PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST STATES. ..NORTH-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS/CENTRAL PLAINS A BELT OF STRENGTHENING WESTERLIES ALOFT WILL INFLUENCE THE REGION INTO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL INITIALLY BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING, POTENTIALLY INCLUDING THE BLACK HILLS VICINITY SOUTHWARD INTO WESTERN NEBRASKA/NORTHEAST COLORADO/NORTHWEST KANSAS. SOME SUPERCELLS ARE EXPECTED AND AT LEAST ISOLATED LARGE HAIL/STRONG WIND GUSTS APPEAR PROBABLE. INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING/NIGHT, CURRENT THINKING IS THAT AN MCS COULD PERSIST AND MOVE EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD WEDNESDAY NIGHT, GENERALLY NEAR THE KANSAS/NEBRASKA BORDER WITH A SEVERE THREAT POSSIBLY CONTINUING INTO THE OVERNIGHT. ..MIDWEST INCLUDING MISSOURI TO OHIO THE BOUNDARY LAYER SHOULD BECOME MODERATELY TO STRONGLY UNSTABLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON ALONG AND SOUTH OF A SOUTHWARD-ADVANCING FRONT, WITH THE STRONGEST DESTABILIZATION (3000+ J/KG MLCAPE) CURRENTLY EXPECTED ACROSS NORTHERN/CENTRAL MISSOURI INTO MUCH OF ILLINOIS/INDIANA. SUFFICIENT NEAR-FRONTAL CONVERGENCE AND FORCING FOR ASCENT SHOULD ALLOW FOR SCATTERED DEEP CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WHILE DEEP-LAYER/LOW-LEVEL WINDS WILL BE NOT BE OVERLY STRONG, THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY AND ROUGHLY 20-35 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR WILL SUPPORT SUSTAINED MULTICELLULAR CLUSTERS CAPABLE OF WIND DAMAGE AND SOME SEVERE HAIL. ..UPPER OHIO VALLEY/NORTHEAST STATES A LOW-AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND A RELATED BELT OF STRONG WEST-NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ALOFT WILL OVERLIE A SOUTH/SOUTHEASTWARD-SPREADING FRONT. WHILE THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THE EXACT DEGREE OF DESTABILIZATION THROUGH THE AFTERNOON, MODERATE BUOYANCY IS PLAUSIBLE NEAR/SOUTH OF THE FRONT, WITH SEVERE STORMS EXPECTED PARTICULARLY DURING THE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING HOURS OF WEDNESDAY. THE STRONG MID/HIGH-LEVEL WESTERLIES AND 40+ KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR WOULD SUPPORT SOME INITIAL SUPERCELLS ALONG WITH SUSTAINED SOUTHEASTWARD-MOVING CLUSTERS. DAMAGING WINDS AND SEVERE HAIL ARE POSSIBLE. ..GUYER.. 06/01/2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Updated day 2 sees the enhanced area expanded more into central WI and a touch south into northern IA. Quote DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1237 PM CDT MON JUN 01 2020 VALID 021200Z - 031200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM EXTREME EAST-CENTRAL SD INTO FAR NORTHERN IA...SOUTHERN MN AND CENTRAL WI... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TUESDAY FROM THE MIDDLE MISSOURI AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEYS INTO THE GREAT LAKES. DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, LARGE HAIL AND A COUPLE OF TORNADO ARE POSSIBLE, WITH THE GREATEST THREAT EXPECTED FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA INTO CENTRAL WISCONSIN. ..SYNOPSIS AN ACTIVE DAY IS EXPECTED ON TUESDAY AS SEVERAL NORTHERN-STREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGHS/IMPULSES MIGRATE FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES ATOP A SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER RIDGE CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ..SD/NE INTO LOWER MI RICH BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO THE MID-MO VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES VICINITY ON STRONG SOUTHERLY LOW LEVEL WINDS. SURFACE DEWPOINTS ARE FORECAST TO RANGE FROM THE MID/UPPER 60S TO PERHAPS NEAR 70 F ALONG AND AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT FROM WESTERN UPPER MI INTO CENTRAL MN AND SOUTHEAST SD MIDDAY TUESDAY. STRONG HEATING IS FORECAST ACROSS THE REGION, WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN THE UPPER 80S TO LOW 90S. A PLUME OF STEEP MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES (7-8 C/KM) WILL OVERSPREAD THE REGION, SUPPORTING MLCAPE VALUES FROM 2000-4000 J/KG. MEANWHILE, A BAND OF 35-45 KT BULK EFFECTIVE SHEAR WILL SUPPORT ORGANIZED CONVECTION. SUPERCELLS MAY INITIALLY DEVELOP NEAR A TRIPLE POINT OVER SOUTHEAST SD EAST/NORTHEAST ALONG THE SURFACE BOUNDARY ACROSS SOUTHERN MN. THERMODYNAMIC AND SHEAR PARAMETERS WILL SUPPORT STORMS INITIALLY CAPABLE OF VERY LARGE HAIL (SOME POTENTIALLY BIGGER THAN 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER), AND DAMAGING GUSTS. WHERE LOW LEVEL SRH IS ENHANCED NEAR THE SURFACE LOW AND ALONG THE SURFACE BOUNDARY, A COUPLE OF TORNADOES COULD OCCUR WITH ANY DISCRETE CONVECTION. CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO GROW UPSCALE WITHIN A FEW HOURS OF INITIATION AS FRONTAL FORCING INCREASES, AND AS THUNDERSTORM OUTFLOWS/COLD POOL PRODUCTION BECOMES MORE SUPPORTIVE OF BOWING SEGMENTS ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHERN IA, FAR SOUTHERN MN AND INTO WI/MI DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. ..LOWER GREAT LAKES VICINITY MORNING SHOWERS AND CLOUD COVER ARE EXPECTED ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHEAST OH INTO WESTERN NY/PA ON THE BACK SIDE OF AN EXITING SHORTWAVE IMPULSE. THIS CLOUD COVER SHOULD CLEAR THE AREA BY AFTERNOON, AS RICH MOISTURE ADVECTS NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION. CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS ONTARIO ALONG THE EASTERN EXTENSION OF THE SURFACE COLD FRONT AND SPREAD SOUTH/SOUTHEAST INTO NORTHEAST OH AND WESTERN PA/NY DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. STRONG WIND GUSTS AND SMALL HAIL ARE THE MAIN THREATS EXPECTED WITH THIS ACTIVITY. ..LEITMAN.. 06/01/2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Despite our being in the slight risk, the 3K NAM (notorious for blowing up giant MCCs at the slightest provocation) doesn't show southern WI getting much Tuesday night. WRF-ARW seeems to concur. HRW NMMB and WRF-NSSL (not too familiar with those last three CAMS vs. the 3K NAM and HRRR) at least give us some thunder, but not looking to impressive either. This looks like yet another year where severe events go from missing us to the south, right to missing us to the north. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Eastward shift of the enhanced area on new day 1. Quote DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1242 AM CDT TUE JUN 02 2020 VALID 021200Z - 031200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA TO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED LATER TODAY FROM THE MIDDLE MISSOURI AND UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEYS INTO THE GREAT LAKES. DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, LARGE HAIL AND A COUPLE OF TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE, WITH THE GREATEST THREAT EXPECTED FROM SOUTHERN MINNESOTA/NORTHERN IOWA INTO CENTRAL WISCONSIN. ..MIDDLE MO VALLEY TO UPPER GREAT LAKES EARLY-MORNING WATER-VAPOR IMAGERY DEPICTS A STRONG SHORT-WAVE TROUGH ALONG THE AB/SK BORDER, EXTENDING INTO WESTERN MT. SOUTHERN EXTENT OF THIS FEATURE IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS LATER TODAY WHICH WILL FLATTEN THE NORTHERN PLAINS RIDGE, THEN ADVANCE INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TONIGHT. IN RESPONSE, SYNOPTIC FRONT IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS NORTHWESTERN WI - INTO SOUTHERN MN - SOUTHEASTERN SD BY 18Z, THEN DRAPE ITSELF FROM CENTRAL WI - MN/IA BORDER - CENTRAL NE BY EARLY EVENING. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE STRONGLY SUGGESTS SURFACE-BASED PARCELS WILL REMAIN CAPPED THROUGH 22Z BUT CONVECTION COULD BEGIN TO DEVELOP ALONG THE COOL SIDE OF THE FRONT A FEW HOURS EARLIER WHERE SHORT-WAVE FORCING IS MORE NOTABLE. LATEST CAMS SUGGEST ISOLATED ELEVATED THUNDERSTORMS COULD INITIATE OVER EASTERN SD BY EARLY AFTERNOON, THEN SPREAD/DEVELOP EAST ALONG/NEAR THE FRONTAL ZONE INTO SOUTHERN MN. A CORRIDOR OF STRONG INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED ACROSS THIS REGION INTO CENTRAL WI AND THERE IS INCREASING CONFIDENCE THAT EARLY-AFTERNOON CONVECTION WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS DOWNSTREAM BUOYANCY AND INGEST MOIST/UNSTABLE BOUNDARY-LAYER INFLOW. IF SO, ROBUST CONVECTIVE UPDRAFTS ARE LIKELY WITH ADEQUATE SHEAR FOR ORGANIZED MULTI-CELL CLUSTERS AND PERHAPS A FEW SUPERCELLS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST VERY LARGE HAIL COULD OCCUR, BUT MOST LIKELY WITH SUPERCELL STRUCTURES. OTHERWISE, IF AN MCS EVOLVES AHEAD OF THE FRONT, THERE IS SOME CONCERN FOR DAMAGING WINDS GIVEN THE INSTABILITY. THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD PROPAGATE ACROSS SOUTHERN WI INTO LOWER MI AFTER SUNSET, POSSIBLY SPREADING INTO NORTHERN OH DURING THE PRE-DAWN HOURS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 New day 2 Quote DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0100 AM CDT TUE JUN 02 2020 VALID 031200Z - 041200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHEAST STATES/DELMARVA... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ON WEDNESDAY FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MIDWEST, OHIO VALLEY, AND PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST STATES/DELMARVA. ..OVERVIEW AN EXTENSIVE WEST/EAST ZONE OF SEVERE-WEATHER POTENTIAL IS EXPECTED ON WEDNESDAY, INFLUENCED BY A SOUTH/SOUTHEASTWARD-MOVING FRONT ACROSS THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY TO NORTHEAST STATES/DELMARVA, AND A SUPERCELL-FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ..NORTH-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS/CENTRAL PLAINS A BELT OF STRENGTHENING WESTERLIES OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL INFLUENCE THE REGION INTO WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL INITIALLY BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON IN VICINITY OF A PREFRONTAL TROUGH AND/OR SOUTHEASTWARD-MOVING FRONT. THIS INCLUDES WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA AND POSSIBLY SOUTHWEST NORTH DAKOTA/NORTHWEST NEBRASKA. OTHER STORM DEVELOPMENT MAY FOCUS IN VICINITY OF NORTHEAST COLORADO/SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA INTO NORTHWEST KANSAS. AT LEAST ISOLATED SUPERCELLS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THESE REGIONS WITH LARGE HAIL AND STRONG WIND GUSTS PROBABLE. INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING/NIGHT, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAN AN MCS OR AT LEAST SEVERAL STORM CLUSTERS COULD PERSIST AND MOVE SOUTHEASTWARD WEDNESDAY NIGHT, GENERALLY NEAR THE KANSAS/NEBRASKA BORDER. IF SO, A SEVERE THREAT COULD CONTINUE INTO THE OVERNIGHT. ..UPPER OHIO VALLEY/NORTHEAST STATES A LOW-AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND A RELATED BELT OF STRONG CYCLONICALLY CURVED WEST-NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ALOFT (40-55 KT AT 500 MB) WILL OVERLIE A SOUTH/SOUTHEASTWARD-SPREADING FRONT. THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR EARLY DAY CONVECTION ACROSS THE REGION, AND THIS CONVECTION AND RELATED CLOUD COVER CASTS SOME UNCERTAINTY 1) REGARDING THE EXACT DEGREE OF DESTABILIZATION AND 2) A PREFERRED CORRIDOR OF ANY HIGHER COVERAGE SEVERE POTENTIAL. THAT SAID, MODERATE BUOYANCY (UPWARDS OF 2000 J/KG MLCAPE) IS PLAUSIBLE NEAR/SOUTH OF THE FRONT AND TO THE SOUTH OF ANY RESIDUAL EARLY DAY PRECIPITATION/OUTFLOW. STORMS WILL LIKELY INCREASE/INTENSIFY THROUGH EARLY/MID AFTERNOON NEAR THE EFFECTIVE FRONT. THE STRONG MID/HIGH-LEVEL WESTERLIES AND 40+ KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR WOULD SUPPORT SOME INITIAL SUPERCELLS ALONG WITH WELL-ORGANIZED SOUTHEASTWARD-MOVING CLUSTERS. DAMAGING WINDS AND SEVERE HAIL ARE EXPECTED. ALTHOUGH LOW-LEVEL WINDS WILL TEND TO REMAIN VEERED IN AREAS NEAR/SOUTH OF THE FRONT, MODERATELY STRONG LOW-LEVEL SHEAR/SRH COULD YIELD A NON-ZERO TORNADO RISK DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING HOURS. ..MIDWEST INCLUDING MISSOURI TO OHIO THE BOUNDARY LAYER SHOULD BECOME MODERATELY TO STRONGLY UNSTABLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON ALONG AND SOUTH OF A SOUTHWARD-ADVANCING FRONT, WITH THE STRONGEST DESTABILIZATION (3000+ J/KG MLCAPE) EXPECTED ACROSS NORTHERN/CENTRAL MISSOURI INTO MUCH OF ILLINOIS/INDIANA. SUFFICIENT NEAR-FRONTAL CONVERGENCE AND FORCING FOR ASCENT SHOULD ALLOW FOR AT LEAST WIDELY SCATTERED DEEP CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WHILE DEEP-LAYER/LOW-LEVEL WINDS WILL BE NOT BE OVERLY STRONG, THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY AND ROUGHLY 20-30 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR WILL SUPPORT SUSTAINED MULTICELLULAR CLUSTERS CAPABLE OF WIND DAMAGE AND SEVERE HAIL. ..GUYER.. 06/02/2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The CAPE looks pretty insane for later today. even into the overnight hours. gonna be interesting to see how everything unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Pretty big expansion of the enhanced risk into WI on the Day 1, now clips the Madison area. Still not overly impressed with the CAMS, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 For around here it looks like mostly a miss north for tonight, and then a miss south for tomorrow.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: For around here it looks like mostly a miss north for tonight, and then a miss south for tomorrow. . The Michigan treatment, rare for Chicago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Is it me or is the SPC site getting worse and worse with not displaying outlook updates? 1325 and the 13Z update still does not show for me no matter how many times I refresh. It's available on COD (as usual) which shows it was issued at 1258. Thank goodness it's not this bad for shorter-fuse products like watches and MDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1630 update: 30% hail probabilities trimmed away from us, 5% TOR removed, but hatched area added to 30% wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: 1630 update: 30% hail probabilities trimmed away from us, 5% TOR removed, but hatched area added to 30% wind. Enhanced area also expanded into west MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Updated day 2 remains the same but there is a mention of possible increase in probs being needed for lower lakes area. Quote DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1229 PM CDT TUE JUN 02 2020 VALID 031200Z - 041200Z ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACROSS SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION...THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC COAST REGION...THE OHIO VALLEY...THE LOWER MISSOURI VALLEY AND NORTH CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS... ..SUMMARY CLUSTERS OF STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS ARE POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACROSS SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC, AS WELL AS ACROSS PARTS OF THE LOWER OHIO INTO LOWER MISSOURI VALLEYS, AND ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ..SYNOPSIS AMPLIFIED, NEGATIVELY TILTED MID-LEVEL TROUGHING (CURRENTLY EAST OF THE NORTHERN ATLANTIC COAST) IS FORECAST TO PIVOT NORTHWARD THROUGH THE CANADIAN MARITIMES, AND CONSOLIDATE WITH TROUGHING OVER QUEBEC, WHERE A DEEP EMBEDDED MID-LEVEL LOW MAY EVOLVE BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT. TO THE SOUTH OF THIS FEATURE, MID-LEVEL FLOW APPEARS LIKELY TO TREND MORE ZONAL, BUT REMAIN BROADLY CYCLONIC ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES THROUGH MUCH OF THE NORTHEAST. TO THE WEST, STRONGER MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN ZONAL, AND LARGELY CONFINED TO THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE U.S, FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST. AS AN EMBEDDED LOW AMPLITUDE WAVE PROGRESSES EASTWARD ALONG THE CENTRAL CANADIAN/U.S. BORDER, THE WESTERLIES MAY BEGIN TO SPLIT DOWNSTREAM, WITH A WEAKER BRANCH OF CYCLONIC MID-LEVEL FLOW DEVELOPING ACROSS THE MIDDLE/LOWER MISSOURI VALLEY. BENEATH THIS REGIME, MODELS INDICATE THAT A PLUME OF WARM ELEVATED MIXED-LAYER AIR (EMANATING FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES/GREAT BASIN) WILL OVERSPREAD MUCH OF THE GREAT LAKES, OHIO VALLEY AND MID ATLANTIC REGION, BEFORE BECOMING SUPPRESSED SOUTHWARD WEDNESDAY. THIS WILL OCCUR ALONG AND AHEAD OF A WEAK COLD FRONT, WHICH WILL BE PRECEDED BY MOISTENING WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW. IT APPEARS THAT A COMBINATION OF EVAPOTRANSPIRATION AND MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL RESULT IN BOUNDARY-LAYER DEW POINTS INCREASING INTO THE MID 60S+ ACROSS THE MIDDLE OHIO INTO PORTIONS OF THE ALLEGHENY PLATEAU AND NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC, AND PERHAPS NEAR 70F ACROSS THE LOWER MISSOURI INTO LOWER OHIO VALLEYS. UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S SURFACE DEWPOINTS MAY ALSO BE MAINTAINED NEAR LEE SURFACE TROUGHING ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ..LOWER GREAT LAKES INTO NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC COAST REGION AT LEAST SOME MODEL OUTPUT INDICATES THAT A BELT OF ENHANCED FLOW (30-50+ KT) IN THE 850-500 MB LAYER, ASSOCIATED WITH A CONVECTIVELY GENERATED OR ENHANCED PERTURBATION, MAY CONTRIBUTE TO CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL AS IT MIGRATES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. THIS IMPULSE MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY REMNANTS OF OVERNIGHT CONVECTION WHICH COULD IMPACT DOWNSTREAM DESTABILIZATION. HOWEVER, THERE APPEARS POTENTIAL FOR RE-INTENSIFICATION, AND THE POSSIBLE EVOLUTION OF AN ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE SYSTEM WHICH COULD POSE A RISK FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, SEVERE HAIL AND PERHAPS A TORNADO OR TWO. MODEL SPREAD CONCERNING THE EXTENT OF BOUNDARY-LAYER DESTABILIZATION REMAINS THE PRIMARY UNCERTAINTY RESULTING IN THE MAINTENANCE OF 15 PERCENT SEVERE PROBABILITIES. IF MODERATE BOUNDARY-LAYER CAPE IS ABLE TO DEVELOP, SEVERE PROBABILITIES WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE INCREASED. ..MIDDLE OHIO VALLEY INTO LOWER MISSOURI VALLEY ALTHOUGH LOW-LEVEL WIND FIELDS MAY BE FAIRLY WEAK, MODEST, BROADLY CYCLONIC MID-LEVEL FLOW MAY CONTRIBUTE TO AN ENVIRONMENT CONDUCIVE TO THE EVOLUTION OF SCATTERED CLUSTERS OF STRONG TO SEVERE STORM DEVELOPMENT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THERMODYNAMIC PROFILES EXHIBITING STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND SIZABLE CAPE PROBABLY WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE HAIL AND WIND IN STRONGEST ACTIVITY. ..KERR.. 06/02/2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchener poster Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Environment Canada just issued a severe weather watch for tonight. I sure hope we get every drop. Only picked up 1 mm of rain in last nights system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 HRRR still doesn't want to give southern WI much of anything. Shows Madison remaining nearly dry overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: HRRR still doesn't want to give southern WI much of anything. Shows Madison remaining nearly dry overnight. v4 has precip extending further south which seems like a more realistic representation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I don't really see why we wouldn't get anything tonight. The whole setup screams at least a decent squall line coming through. Although what I don't get is MKX showing the storm going through the area NW-SE when again that's not really going to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 storms blowing up quickly NE of Rochester, much further east that any CAMs had storms developing at this hour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The 3k NAM drops a pretty good line into northern and even central Iowa tonight, but the HRRR appears to have Iowa capped and bone dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Radar looks great to my north. Can’t wait to get missed again and end up with plain rains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The weather set up looks nice. haven't been this excited for a strong squall line in a few years. lots of cape throughout the night here in southeast michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 A few new severe storms are popping up near Mankato, MN Quote Severe Thunderstorm Watch Number 239 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 440 PM CDT Tue Jun 2 2020 The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a * Severe Thunderstorm Watch for portions of Northern Iowa Southern Minnesota West central and southwest Wisconsin * Effective this Tuesday afternoon from 440 PM until Midnight CDT. * Primary threats include... Scattered damaging winds and isolated significant gusts to 75 mph likely Scattered large hail and isolated very large hail events to 2 inches in diameter likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Chinook said: A few new severe storms are popping up near Mankato, MN That cell S of Mankato is a beast. Tornado warning now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Geoboy645 said: I don't really see why we wouldn't get anything tonight. The whole setup screams at least a decent squall line coming through. Although what I don't get is MKX showing the storm going through the area NW-SE when again that's not really going to be the case. You don't think so? Maybe more WNW to ESE but largely that's the way they've been moving so far and models, at worst, have them moving W to E. The further south development so far means the HRRR should be taken with a major grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 hmm im getting vibes of the 1998 southern great lakes derecho. i hope the setup holds true for the overnight hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Solidsting said: hmm im getting vibes of the 1998 southern great lakes derecho. i hope the setup holds true for the overnight hours. Imagine if it motored at that speed, the line in C Wisconsin that seems to be congealing is moving at a pretty fair clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidsting Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 yeah it seems to be moving more southeast then i thought. i want it to go more east twords eastern michigan. been wanting one of these storms for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Solidsting said: hmm im getting vibes of the 1998 southern great lakes derecho. i hope the setup holds true for the overnight hours. I'd pump the brakes on that comparison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I'd pump the brakes on that comparison. Maybe he's like me where it's been so long since I've even had a thunderstorm (for Spring standards) that any line bearing down looks strong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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