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June 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread


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The next 8 days are averaging 72degs., or just Normal.

Month to date is  +2.4[70.8].        Should be about  +1.3[71.4] by the 18th.

72* here at 6am, skies less than perfectly blue.      74* by 9am.      74* still at Noon.(got to 75* in between)       76* by 3pm.        75* at 4pm.    (about 4-5 degrees less than yesterday at this time, but I still got to 89* by about 7pm.)     68* by 9m.

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Today looks like the last 90 degree potential for the more interior warm spots in a while. Cooler cutoff pattern with easterly flow develops and persists into next week. So far it looks like the big high keeps the heaviest cutoff rains to our south. But these exact cutoff low tracks and heaviest rain placement can easily change over time.

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44 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Today looks like the last 90 degree potential for the more interior warm spots in a while. Cooler cutoff pattern with easterly flow develops and persists into next week. So far it looks like the big high keeps the heaviest cutoff rains to our south. But these exact cutoff low tracks and heaviest rain placement can easily change over time.

 

Also wondering the effects of soil moisture and feedback for later in the season. Those areas with the highest QFP at times can be the breeding grounds for very hot weather for our areas,  however,  maybe this summer the heat makes it approach and greatest impact from going up and over and arriving on NW flow events. Any thoughts ? 

Of course you also have to look at the long lasting warm SSTs in the Western Atlantic,  that seem to want to extend summer into mid October, such as in recent years.    

On a related Atlantic SST note, wondering  when the flip happens closer to the coast as the Atlantic is warming in general. The surf zone is warming but has been slow to respond, maybe the long East fetch brings the warmer waters closer the next 8 days.   

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78/69 here as the tropical airmass ensues. Winds NE here.    Should warm up to the mid 80s but 90s may be tough north of Philly today.

Overnight runs continue with a wacky cutoff / ULL period from Sunday 6/14 - 6/20.  Pending on where the ULL centers will determine the heaviest rains.  06 GFS pushes the ULL offshore by Wed (go figure) while Euro suite has it similar to the May brigade near KY, AR, TN.  Either way unsettled period.  beyond there plenty of heat building in the plans and GL.

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4 hours ago, bluewave said:

Today looks like the last 90 degree potential for the more interior warm spots in a while. Cooler cutoff pattern with easterly flow develops and persists into next week. So far it looks like the big high keeps the heaviest cutoff rains to our south. But these exact cutoff low tracks and heaviest rain placement can easily change over time.

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2 hours ago, SACRUS said:

78/69 here as the tropical airmass ensues. Winds NE here.    Should warm up to the mid 80s but 90s may be tough north of Philly today.

Overnight runs continue with a wacky cutoff / ULL period from Sunday 6/14 - 6/20.  Pending on where the ULL centers will determine the heaviest rains.  06 GFS pushes the ULL offshore by Wed (go figure) while Euro suite has it similar to the May brigade near KY, AR, TN.  Either way unsettled period.  beyond there plenty of heat building in the plans and GL.

I doubt we see the heaviest rains with the ULL/cutoff as theme seems to be to push that more to the south/southwest of us but we'll see.

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Already 90 degrees south of the warm front with the first 75 degree dew points of the season. First 100+ HX of the year to our SW.
 

TRENTON        MOSUNNY   86  75  69 S9        29.95F HX  95
TOMS RIVER*    PTSUNNY   90  70  51 S10       29.98F HX  95

GEORGETOWN     MOSUNNY   93  75  55 S13G22    29.97F HX 104

 

 

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5 hours ago, SACRUS said:

78/69 here as the tropical airmass ensues. Winds NE here.    Should warm up to the mid 80s but 90s may be tough north of Philly today.

Overnight runs continue with a wacky cutoff / ULL period from Sunday 6/14 - 6/20.  Pending on where the ULL centers will determine the heaviest rains.  06 GFS pushes the ULL offshore by Wed (go figure) while Euro suite has it similar to the May brigade near KY, AR, TN.  Either way unsettled period.  beyond there plenty of heat building in the plans and GL.

the canadian kicks out the ULL too and the euro just shifted well east with it so maybe we can salvage the second half of next week

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1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

the canadian kicks out the ULL too and the euro just shifted well east with it so maybe we can salvage the second half of next week

this would be great if this scenario plays out. We certainly don't need to go through another cutoff low pattern like we did the week before Memorial day weekend which ultimately wound up ruining the start of the Memorial Day weekend after it was originally forecasted to impact the area that Monday-Thursday with improving weather just in time for Memorial day weekend. Yes rain is great to have but when it comes to cut off low patterns and it persists for prolonged periods of time you wind up going from needing the rain to not needing anymore in a quick period of time plus with this being June and not April all day dreariness is not fun to have in any of the 3 summer months or at all but especially in the 3 summer months when it typically should not be happening. Summer months do feature unsettled weather but typically not of the all day dreary stratiform type but rather the warm convective type where the sun destabilizes the atmosphere and you get your heavy rain and thunderstorms before the sun comes right back out. That's what type of unsettled weather should be happening during June, July and August. And in the summer months the weekends are the most important time for the weather to cooperate because that's when typically beach goers go to the beach which is what they call the 16 summer weekends which begin during Memorial Day weekend

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49 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The euro is very wet from Sunday into Tuesday next week. We have seen the euro be to far north with the cutoffs lately. Either way, looks like the best heat will be in NNE next week. 

Looks like the EPS keeps much of the rainfall with the cutoff to our south. 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The euro is very wet from Sunday into Tuesday next week. We have seen the euro be to far north with the cutoffs lately. Either way, looks like the best heat will be in NNE next week. 

 

6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Looks like the EPS keeps much of the rainfall with the cutoff to our south. 

 

 

And the 18z GFS keeps the heavy rains to our west over C/E PA early next week with much lighter amounts over our area if anything. Like you said @bluewave where the heaviest rains fall will be hard to pin down but usually it favors areas to the west and south of us.

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Just now, bluewave said:

It could be the first 90 of the season for JFK and ISP if the winds go more westerly.  Portions of the Western Plains have been really drying out recently. So an airmass that originates there could really overperform on the heat moving NE around the solstice.

hmmm if so that might mean a late hot summer for us, sort of like 1995?

 

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