Chinook Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The storms over the Yucatan peninsula attained overshooting tops of -90C by my estimation, based on the color scale (bottom of this image). Based on models, this tropical atmosphere had an equilibrium level of 15 kilometers, at -70C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 I've taken a closer look at tomorrow's threat across Texas... Area averaged sounding from the 00z hrrr at 20z/3 p.m. CDT for approximately a four county area just west of Waco shows that convective initiation (CI) is imminent. Convective temperatures are in the mid-80s and that is the same from other high resolution CAMs as well. Note that low-level shear is weak and even the 850mb jet is much weaker than you'll see under most ENH risk areas. With that said, deep layer shear is more than sufficient for supercells and moderate CAPE profiles thanks to cool temperatures aloft should result in several large to potentially very large hail producing storms. While not particularly large, 0-3km hodographs are enlarged, thanks to NW winds at 500mb backing to S/SE at 850mb. In addition to weak low-level shear, seasonably lackluster dew-points seem to imply that the tornado threat is very limited during the first few hours of storm development. (dew only around 60F in the initiation zone at this latitude in late May is unimpressive) Most CAMs show an initially supercellular storm mode, but the NSSL and multiple WRF members show clustering/upscale growth within a couple of hours. The HRRR, HRRRv4 and 3km NAM hold onto a semi-discrete mode until at least 22-23z, before things get messier toward 00z. It's hard to predict MCS evolution since the CAMs are not in the best agreement, but I would think that the highest risk for a damaging MCS would be near/east of I-35 after 22z. An MCS seems very likely by 00-01z, moving toward the Texas coast during the night. Basically, on the lower end of expectations, I'd think there are a couple of initially supercellular storms that produce large to possibly very large hail before storms grow upscale. If storm modes remain more discrete, as storms encounter an air-mass with richer low-level moisture to the southeast and the low-level jet, then the tornado threat may increase. If we dissect the tornado threat, I'd say it's very low, but non-zero through 6 p.m. and then increases toward sunset, assuming storms are still at least semi-discrete by that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Considered making the drive from Kansas down to central Texas for tomorrow, in what will very likely be the only central/southern Plains severe threat for at least a week or week and a half. But decided to hold off in lieu of hope for better northern plains potential later on in June. As Quincy referenced, in spite of what will probably discrete/semi-discrete storm modes for a few hours after initiation, dew-points are very unimpressive tomorrow for central Texas, and low-level shear will be pretty mediocre until roughly 00z -- and at that point storms will probably be a sloppy mess. Ultimately there will likely be beautiful supercells tomorrow, but much like Friday of last week, these supercells will likely struggle to obtain strong enough low-level rotation to produce notable tornadoes. All the twitter talk about a 10% sig tor for tomorrow completely ignores low-level thermos/kinematics that are critical for tornadogenesis in favor of mixed CAM output showing potentially discrete storm modes. Tomorrow probably is not worth a 7 to 9 hour drive down there for me... unfortunately this is how May 2020 severe chances will end on the plains. Unless tomorrow pulls a rabbit out of the hat, we will end up with the lowest number of May U.S. tornadoes since 1970. FWIW I'll go with a hypothetical starting point/target of Temple, TX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Big hail core on the cell moving towards Waco, has a couplet with broad rotation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, mob1 said: Big hail core on the cell moving towards Waco, has a couplet with broad rotation as well. As this storm continues to move SE, could it perhaps lay down a boundary that increases SRH in the vicinity, increasing the tornado threat a bit for later on in the day? Given that the boundary would be oriented from roughly NW to SE, more or less parallel to storm motions, any storm later on in the day could latch on and ride the boundary for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Looking like today’s tornado potential might nearly be toast as these early storms south of Waco have pushed out a southward surging outflow boundary that does not appear to be stopping any time soon. Non-zero tornado potential will likely exist with any convection that stays surface-based and attached to the eastern end of the OFB (I.e., cells immediately northwest of College Station, TX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I agree with CLL if anything. Cells northwest are in a fresh environment, but lower dews and veered surface winds. CLL is backed and humid in the South Texas tradition. If that beast does not break up a bit it'll be low visibility along the line. When all else fails, the view from the Texas A&M Weather Lab is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 That is an angry storm complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quincy Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Attempted to chase today. With no radar or other data for four hours, when storms initiated, I decided I’d play as far south as possible. That seemed to be a good idea. The tail end of a cluster of convection broke off into supercells that paralleled I-10 down to San Antonio. I ended up in two tornado warnings, but neither storm had noteworthy low-level rotation. I had to dodge supercells on both sides of San Antonio before calling it a night. It was probably the worst Verizon black hole I’ve encountered anywhere in the Plains. Only parts of eastern Colorado could possibly rival it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Where is that ghost town? Would love to visit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Maybe this would be better in the general svr thread but, twin waterspouts from Galveston Bay in TX about an hour and a half ago: https://mobile.twitter.com/baldbear87/status/1266071750179196934 They kind of look like legit mesocyclonic tornadoes to me, radar presentation was also pretty much textbook. Another possibly strong waterspout is likely occurring/did occur in the same general area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, TexMexWx said: Maybe this would be better in the general svr thread but, twin waterspouts from Galveston Bay in TX about an hour and a half ago: https://mobile.twitter.com/baldbear87/status/1266071750179196934 They kind of look like legit mesocyclonic tornadoes to me, radar presentation was also pretty much textbook. Another possibly strong waterspout is likely occurring/did occur in the same general area. It was a classic supercell that had an absolutely ridiculous radar presentation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 This person posted the radar image of the large waterspout-producing supercell over Galveston bay at 3:33PM (Eastern Time, I believe) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 5/28/2020 at 2:22 PM, cheese007 said: Where is that ghost town? Would love to visit it! Doole, TX, it’s northwest of Brady, about midway between Brownwood and San Angelo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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