cold wave and interior snow threat 5/8

[SnowGoose69]

7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I remember reading that there was car damage from a hail storm on the south shore sometime during the 90s- I forgot what year.

 

There was a bad one in July 1997 too.  Small area near Rockville Centre i think.  The 95 one was pretty small hail

[sferic]

Lonnie Quinn said same thing weeks back

[Ericjcrash]

22 minutes ago, sferic said:

Lonnie Quinn said same thing weeks back

Lonnie Quinn is braindead.

[HVSnowLover]

Upton now forecasting mixing in the city at the end of the storm.

[HVSnowLover]

1 hour ago, CIK62 said:

Yikes!      Only the GEM has no measurable Snow Sat. AM.       Don't know about the UK Met.

GFS has 1" to 3".     This will have to fall heavily and will be real wet stuff as the 0C reaches only down to the 950mb. Level, briefly.        May actually be lower than this next Tues., AM.

Could we go from the earliest last measurable snowfall Jan. 18, to the latest in the City?

Don't get caught up in 10:1 ratio maps, it's May it won't stick at the coast when the storm starts out at 50 but seeing any flakes on May 9th would be awesome

[HVSnowLover]

6 hours ago, Ericjcrash said:

The past month has really made up for a crappy winter winter.

Yea if you go upstate lol but it's been a solid winter from the start north of I84 especially elevated and near I90, it has stayed crappy south of I84

[uncle W]

if Central Parks observatory gets inches of hail would that count in the seasonal snow totals?...I remember one place in Jersey getting a foot of hail over a small area...hail should have its own column in the climate reports...

[Ericjcrash]

7 minutes ago, uncle W said:

if Central Parks observatory gets inches of hail would that count in the seasonal snow totals?...I remember one place in Jersey getting a foot of hail over a small area...hail should have its own column in the climate reports...

I'm 90% sure it used to.

[SnowGoose69]

17 minutes ago, uncle W said:

if Central Parks observatory gets inches of hail would that count in the seasonal snow totals?...I remember one place in Jersey getting a foot of hail over a small area...hail should have its own column in the climate reports...

I believe that it does.  Someone showed me some station like Amarillo or somewhere reported 6 inches of snow in mid June once and it was hail

[Juliancolton]

6 minutes ago, JoshSnow said:

Nam has a cold front now basically  lol that sucks. Oh well when is the next threat ?

The coveted marginal risk day in late August. Get ready!

[jm1220]

55 minutes ago, JoshSnow said:

Nam has a cold front now basically  lol that sucks. Oh well when is the next threat ?

 

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Yeah weak strung out crap. Good for high elevations like the Catskills but some flurries at the end elsewhere. Next threat-lol. In November before we warm up in Dec-Feb and then get threats again in late March/April?

[Ericjcrash]

2 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Yeah weak strung out crap. Good for high elevations like the Catskills but some flurries at the end elsewhere. Next threat-lol. In November before we warm up in Dec-Feb and then get threats again in late March/April?

Not even. Only the GFS shows anything of consequence now.

[Snowlover11]

well it was nice to look at, but lets be real getting snow in late april let alone may, is nearly impossible around here, bring on thunderstorm season!

[snowman19]

5 hours ago, JoshSnow said:

Nam has a cold front now basically  lol that sucks. Oh well when is the next threat ?

 

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December 

[Animal]

Upton & Mt Holly morning afd are both calling for a change to snow interior tonight.

inch of snow possible...warm ground likely prohibits much more.

[Animal]

6z 3 k nam

[Rtd208]

Interesting snippet from Mt.Holly's AFD for today and tonight.

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... 
  As a large mid level closed low slowly digs southeast out of  
  Ontario, a surface low over our region this evening is expected to  
  intensify and deepen. Unfortunately, there are still several  
  question marks with this event even though we are now within 12 to  
  24 hours of some of the impacts. For one, it still isn`t clear where  
  the center of the surface low will be by early this evening. Most  
  high res models have trended further northwest with the center of  
  the low. This will have impacts on temperatures, where exactly the  
  frontogenesis forcing will set up, and what areas will have some  
  (meager) instability. Another concern I have is that by late last  
  evening a low level southwesterly jet developed that was not well  
  sampled by the 00Z soundings (only evident from the VWPs of KDOX,  
  KDIX, and KOKX). This has me concerned that there may be other  
  significant mesoscale features that have not been sampled well and  
  thus not accounted for in the models. As for the various aspects of  
  the event today: 

[bluewave]

 

[uncle W]

May 11th is the last date NYC had two years with temps in the 30's...May 12th has none..the 10th has at least four...

bench mark lows...35 on 5/9/1947...36 on 5/11/1913...38 on 5/19/1976...39 on 5/24/1963...

5/6	32 in 1891	39 in 1967	40 in 1992+
5/7	37 in 1891	38 in 1970	38 in 1874
5/8	37 in 1947	38 in 1956	39 in 1977
5/9	35 in 1947	36 in 1977	38 in 1923
5/10	36 in 1966	36 in 1947	38 in 1923+
5/11	36 in 1913	37 in 1923	41 in 1945+
5/12	40 in 1907	40 in 1874	41 in 1938
5/13	39 in 1895	41 in 1928	41 in 1878
5/14	40 in 1878	41 in 1871	42 in 2013+
5/15	42 in 1947	42 in 1920	43 in 1880
5/16	42 in 1878	43 in 2016	43 in 1983+
5/17	39 in 1956	40 in 1888	41 in 1983
5/18	41 in 1973	42 in 1976	42 in 1882
5/19	38 in 1976	41 in 2002	42 in 1882
5/20	43 in 2002	43 in 1907	45 in 1994+
5/21	40 in 1907	42 in 2002	45 in 1949+
5/22	42 in 1907	44 in 1990	45 in 1895+
5/23	43 in 1963	44 in 1976	44 in 1935
5/24	39 in 1963	43 in 1877	44 in 1956

[NJwx85]

lol at starting a thread for snow in almost mid May. Even if everything came together perfectly, it would have been nothing but white rain outside of the highest elevations. 
 

I’m glad Mother Nature came to her senses and punted this mess. Time to bring on the nice weather. Memorial Day is 2 weeks from Monday. 

[SnoSki14]

9 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

lol at starting a thread for snow in almost mid May. Even if everything came together perfectly, it would have been nothing but white rain outside of the highest elevations. 
 

I’m glad Mother Nature came to her senses and punted this mess. Time to bring on the nice weather. Memorial Day is 2 weeks from Monday. 

Next weekend would be perfect time to reopen beaches & boardwalk. 

[NorthShoreWx]

19 hours ago, bluewave said:

I have noticed that small hail gets entered as a trace of snow in the NWS system. We saw this with the thunderstorms back on April 23rd. It must stay in the report if it doesn’t get edited out later on 

 

I can't speak for JFK, but it definitely snowed here on 4/23 between about 10 and 10:30 AM.  We had pea-sized hail on the 21st.

I have some video for 4/23, but also used the snowfall as an excuse for this post on my business IG (which features an unrelated May snow photo):

 

 

 

 

 

[NorthShoreWx]

Speaking of late snow, May 25, 2013 (Saturday of Memorial Day weekend) was darned close and I suspect parts of the area did have snowflakes mixed in.  The high temp at ISP that day was 49 with about 3/4" rain and strong NE winds.  I took my son to a track meet at Randalls Island and it was a miserable day (but we did get to see Usain Bolt in his prime).  It was windy, rainy and cold and at one point I thought I might be seeing some white rain in the mix. Maybe I imagined it.  Meanwhile, upstate this was going on:

https://www.mynbc5.com/article/whiteface-mountain-gets-three-feet-of-snow/3309477

The Catskills got snow that day too.  I think something similar might have happend around Memorial Day 1967.

 

 

[Fantom X]

1 minute ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Speaking of late snow, May 25, 2013 (Saturday of Memorial Day weekend) was darned close and I suspect parts of the area did have snowflakes mixed in.  The high temp at ISP that day was 49 with about 3/4" rain and strong NE winds.  I took my son to a track meet at Randalls Island and it was a miserable day (but we did get to see Usain Bolt in his prime).  It was windy, rainy and cold and at one point I thought I might be seeing some white rain in the mix. Maybe I imagined it.  Meanwhile, upstate this was going on:

https://www.mynbc5.com/article/whiteface-mountain-gets-three-feet-of-snow/3309477

The Catskills got snow that day too.

 

 

I can account for seeing snow mixing in that day in 2013. The latest I've seen flakes fly on the island..

[bluewave]

19 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I can't speak for JFK, but it definitely snowed here on 4/23 between about 10 and 10:30 AM.  We had pea-sized hail on the 22nd.

I have some video for 4/23, but also used the snowfall as an excuse for this post on my business IG (which features an unrelated May snow photo):

 

 

 

 

 

I had a few snowflakes during the morning of the 23rd also. It was the small hail with the thunderstorms on 21st that went in as a trace of snow.

 

 

 

[NorthShoreWx]

2 minutes ago, Fantom X said:

I can account for seeing snow mixing in that day in 2013. The latest I've seen flakes fly on the island..

Thnaks for confirming! Too bad that track meet wasn't a day later.  I'll never know if it snowed here (Smithtown) on 5/25

 

[NorthShoreWx]

5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

I had a few snowflakes during the morning of the 23rd also. It was the small hail during the thunderstorms on 21st that went in as a trace of snow.

 

 

 

 

Got it.  We had the hail here on the 21st too.  I said 22nd, but meant the 21st (since updated in post).

I haven't observed any May snow in the 25 years we've been at this location (although I might have missed some in 2013), but what I was a little excited for a couple of days ago was the slight chance of light measurable.  That isn't looking good at all.

If you can't waste time talking about May snow during a quarantine, when can you? 

 

[bluewave]

9 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Got it.  We had the hail here on the 21st too.  I said 22nd, but meant the 21st (since updated in post).

I haven't observed any May snow in the 25 years we've been at this location (although I might have missed some in 2013), but what I was a little excited for a couple of days ago was the slight chance of light measurable.  That isn't looking good at all.

If you can't waste time talking about May snow during a quarantine, when can you? 

 

The only thing that I can remember about the 76-77 winter was how cold it was. I don’t have a personal memory of the record late trace of snow around the area in May. Maybe we can spot a few wet flakes tomorrow when the record UL and cold pool moves through. This was the report from Bridgeport on the 21st.

186 
SXUS71 KOKX 212055
RERBDR

RECORD EVENT REPORT 
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
455 PM EDT TUE APR 21 2020

...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT BRIDGEPORT CT...

 A RECORD SNOWFALL OF A TRACE WAS SET AT BRIDGEPORT CT TODAY. THIS 
WAS DUE TO HAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THUNDERSTORMS THAT MOVED THROUGH.

$$

[Rjay]

57 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

lol at starting a thread for snow in almost mid May. Even if everything came together perfectly, it would have been nothing but white rain outside of the highest elevations. 
 

I’m glad Mother Nature came to her senses and punted this mess. Time to bring on the nice weather. Memorial Day is 2 weeks from Monday. 

Any flakes in nyc this time of year is historic dude.

[SnowGoose69]

LGA only needs to get to 37 tonight to tie their all time record.  JFK should break their deadly record.  NYC could tie though I would say it’s probably going to fall 1-2 short.  EWR’s all time record is 33 on 5/9 so I don’t expect a daily record or all timer to be set