Thinksnow18 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: It really is incredible. 6 weeks from the most powerful sun of the year. 6 weeks after June 21st is beginning of August and usually the warmest time of year. It's been long thought around here that the ice boom clogging up the lake with ice is why we are cold well into the middle of spring...but I recently read the real culprit is Hudson Bay being directly to our north and having a micro climate type effect down through the eastern great lakes and the NE. So many theories I guess but one way or another something is responsible for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: It's been long thought around here that the ice boom clogging up the lake with ice is why we are cold well into the middle of spring...but I recently read the real culprit is Hudson Bay being directly to our north and having a micro climate type effect down through the eastern great lakes and the NE. So many theories I guess but one way or another something is responsible for it. I'm certainly no climate scientist and haven't read too much on this, but...I bet you would find that average temps here from about mid-March through May are much cooler than the rest of the NH at similar latitude for what seems like 2 obvious reasons - 1) frozen Hudson Bay and residual snow cover in eastern Canada extending down to 45 deg latitude; and 2) massive bodies of water (Great Lakes) immediately upstream ranging in temps from freezing to 50 degrees. Combine that with building heat domes in the southwest US pushing up into the Rockies with a propensity for air coming off the Rockies to bend southeast, and you have a perfect recipe for a mean trough over the upper GL's/northeast US. Seems like from Washington D.C. points west are immune from our seasonal spring lag/extended winter as they mild and green up on que in early April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeltaT13 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Thinksnow18 said: It's been long thought around here that the ice boom clogging up the lake with ice is why we are cold well into the middle of spring...but I recently read the real culprit is Hudson Bay being directly to our north and having a micro climate type effect down through the eastern great lakes and the NE. So many theories I guess but one way or another something is responsible for it. There have been a number of studies on the ice boom. It seems the general consensus is that it has no noticeable impact it. I imagine a couple microclimate (a mile or so of shoreline) locations might have a colder week on the Niagara peninsula that are directly next to the boom, but on the large scale its just too small and insignificant to have a real effect. https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/pubs/fulltext/1982/19820002.pdf https://weather.buffalostate.edu/sites/weather.buffalostate.edu/files/uploads/photos/PDF/iceboomposter.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Fail here.... would've figured I would've flipped here by now @2000' but this light precip isn't helping. Light rain continues with maybe a few few mangled flakes mixing in the past 10 min or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 It's been snowing all day at Cornell but didnt appear to accumulate much. This is a great high def cam I've been watching over the winter. I'm a bit of a birder. https://www.allaboutbirds.org/cams/cornell-lab-feederwatch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Wow at that band that just moved trough...An inch already in like 30 minutes, stuck everywhere... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Yeah just saw a FB alert for snow covered roads in the south towns and saw that radar and traffic cam... Dang! Been coming down here all day at a good clip but nothing sticking. Ugh where’s spring already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Wow at that band that just moved trough...An inch already in like 30 minutes, stuck everywhere... Must be nice, but congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying MXZ Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Snowing here, just barely turning white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Without a doubt the most epic changeover I've ever seen in my life, on May 8th! While walking the dog in the rain a wall of snow with a gusty of wind blasted us and must've been a flash freeze. Everything except road instantly covered. Not particularly heavy but awesome nonetheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Still stuck at 40/38 but the changeover is encroaching on me quickly. Still praying for 1" before the precip shuts off by around Midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Eric I figured that had to be coming your way. We started as snow here in Otsego around 1700. Still snowing, it's all stuck to the trees so it's quite beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, cny rider said: Eric I figured that had to be coming your way. We started as snow here in Otsego around 1700. Still snowing, it's all stuck to the trees so it's quite beautiful. Yeah, theres a roughly 2300' hill i can see but couldn't for a while, radar was an excellent tell and was shown excellently by the HRRRRRR all day which is usually trash. Its snowing moderately and accumulating. Just wish it happened 2 hours earlier. Either way that epic changeover saved this event regardless if it amounts to much, nevermind the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I see decent banding setting up overhead on the radar. Should snow steadily here for the next couple of hours. Maybe we will get 2 inches on elevated surfaces? I'm more excited about the squall potential tomorrow.. My kids have never experienced thunder snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, crossbowftw3 said: Still stuck at 40/38 but the changeover is encroaching on me quickly. Still praying for 1" before the precip shuts off by around Midnight. The temperature change along with ptype was pretty epic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, cny rider said: I see decent banding setting up overhead on the radar. Should snow steadily here for the next couple of hours. Maybe we will get 2 inches on elevated surfaces? I'm more excited about the squall potential tomorrow.. My kids have never experienced thunder snow. As a coastal guy primarily that would be an epic treat for them.... pretty much the only benefit of being downstate is epic coastals when the cards are dealt correctly. I've experienced it numerous occasions. Jan 2011 I had thundersleet and snow the same night and was in my glory. Hopefully you get a good cell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SouthBuffaloSteve Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 One heck of a sunset over the lake tonight... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, SouthBuffaloSteve said: One heck of a sunset over the lake tonight... My drone was having issues. I was trying to get some video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: One heck of a sunset over the lake tonight... Great shot!! Clear here too, if wind drops temps should really nosedive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Changeover has finally arrived for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, crossbowftw3 said: Changeover has finally arrived for me Hell yeah. Was it impressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I just can't believe that even in May this year the 'Cuse gets whiffed to the SE....NW allll winter, and now SE allll Spring. We did get one good surprise at the end of March. Even you Buffalo guys seem to be getting lots of surprise snow showers this year. Seems like every cold shot you guys are posting great shots of little snow events there. Here, it's just been meh. It's like everything has ridden on a line from Ithaca to Cortland to Cazenovia and South and East of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ericjcrash Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Blowing snow on May 8th. 28° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: Blowing snow on May 8th. 28° Impressive! Enjoy. I know this winter freak would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Snowing down to nnj.. Looks like I could see my first may flakes if this continues to rotate in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Impressive! Enjoy. I know this winter freak would. Its cooked. But even though the 1.5" or so was a let down...the way it happened was epic. I'll never forget the changeover and accompanying flash freeze during daylight regardless of calendar date which only makes it more remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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