TugHillMatt Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 52 minutes ago, tim123 said: Tornado south side of rochester 45 minutes ago, vortmax said: Yup. Victor area. Yikes....I wouldn't have wanted to be on the Thruway while that rolled over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 What a fantastic light show these storms over Ontario are putting on. I have a gorgeous view from my patio. Lot more thunderstorms this year compared to the past few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Very cool story about researchers chasing the huge MCS’s in Argentina https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/22/magazine/worst-storms-argentina.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Thinking about getting the Weatherflow Tempest Station. Seems like a legit new product with no moving parts, yet covers a lot measurements. Check it out... https://shop.weatherflow.com/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Something to track in the tropics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, vortmax said: Thinking about getting the Weatherflow Tempest Station. Seems like a legit new product with no moving parts, yet covers a lot measurements. Check it out... https://shop.weatherflow.com/ I was looking into that a while back but was worried about the accuracy of the haptic rain scenario which some online claim wasn't as reliable..Let us know how it is if you get it!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I wound up getting an ambient weather station, if I'm not mistaken westerly also has the same model, definitely has exceeded expectations, seems pretty accurate, app works well, has a bunch of decent features and best of all it was on sale for $129!! Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_rules Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Something to track in the tropics! I know it’s not really applicable coming from the tropics, but imagine that track up the coast in the winter.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, wolfie09 said: I wound up getting an ambient weather station, if I'm not mistaken westerly also has the same model, definitely has exceeded expectations, seems pretty accurate, app works well, has a bunch of decent features and best of it was on sale for $129!! Lol A Met (and CoCoRaHS) reviewed it on YouTube and said it's within 10% accuracy of the device he uses for obs. Good enough for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: I wound up getting an ambient weather station, if I'm not mistaken westerly also has the same model, definitely has exceeded expectations, seems pretty accurate, app works well, has a bunch of decent features and best of all it was on sale for $129!! Lol Yep same one I got. I love it and haven't had any issues in the 3 years I’ve had it. For the price you can’t beat it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, WesterlyWx said: Yep same one I got. I love it and haven't had any issues in the 3 years I’ve had it. For the price you can’t beat it. There's a deal to get the Tempest one for $229...not too much more than the Ambient WS-2902B ($170), but doesn't come with a console...just phone app. Question: Is the best place to mount these on the roof or do you put them on a pole in the middle of your yard or something? I know the anemometer should be higher up than say the rain gauge, but that's not possible in an all-in-one unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, vortmax said: There's a deal to get the Tempest one for $229...not too much more than the Ambient WS-2902B ($170), but doesn't come with a console...just phone app. Question: Is the best place to mount these on the roof or do you put them on a pole in the middle of your yard or something? I know the anemometer should be higher up than say the rain gauge, but that's not possible in an all-in-one unit. I have mine mounted on a pole in the middle of my yard 6 feet above the ground. Might not be where your supposed to put it but I haven’t had time to go up on the roof and mount it at my new house since I moved from West Seneca in December. I find my readings are still within a degree for temp and dew point for surrounding stations. Wind data does seem to be compromised though and I think our house as well as surrounding houses definitely do block some of the wind as even in high wind warning criteria winds I can never get a gust to measure above 30-35mph but I’m not really concerned with that aspect for the most part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 357 PM EDT THU JUL 30 2020 ...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 7/29/2020 TORNADO EVENT... .TORNADO CONFIRMED IN SOUTHERN MONROE COUNTY... START LOCATION...WHEATLAND CENTER IN MONROE COUNTY, NY END LOCATION...SCOTTSVILLE IN MONROE COUNTY, NY DATE...JULY 29, 2020 ESTIMATED TIME...653 PM TO 657 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF0 ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...75 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...100 YARDS PATH LENGTH...4.2 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...43.0019/-77.8222 ENDING LAT/LON...43.0050/-77.7440 * FATALITIES...0 * INJURIES...0 ...SUMMARY... A SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPED OVER GENESEE COUNTY AND TRACKED EAST-SOUTHEAST FROM JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERCHANGE OF THE NEW YORK STATE THRUWAY AND I-490. SCATTERED TREE LIMB DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH STRAIGHT LINE WINDS WAS FOUND ALONG THE OATKA CREEK UPON FOLLOWING THE PATH OF THIS STORM INTO MONROE COUNTY STARTING JUST EAST OF BEULAH ROAD AND CONTINUING THROUGH MUMFORD. DAMAGE BECAME MORE CONCENTRATED UPON CROSSING WHEATLAND CENTER ROAD AND ENTERING OATKA CREEK PARK. A GRASSY FIELD WAS LAID DOWN FLAT IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE STORM MOTION WITH TREE DAMAGE TO THE SOUTH END OF THE FIELD INDICATING ROTATION WITH SEVERAL DAMAGE TREES HAVING BROKEN TO THE NORTHEAST. FARTHER EAST, A PARTIALLY- FLATTENED CORN FIELD WITH TWO SHALLOW-ROOTED UPROOTED TREES ALONG ITS SOUTHERN PERIPHERY WAS COUPLED WITH SEVERAL BROKEN TREES ALONG A HIKING PATH THROUGH OATKA CREEK PARK INDICATING OPPOSING DIRECTIONAL DAMAGE. SCATTERED DAMAGE CONTINUED FARTHER EAST FROM OATKA CREEK PARK ALONG QUAKER ROAD SOUTH OF SCOTTSVILLE. A SECOND MORE CONCENTRATED AREA OF DAMAGE WAS FOUND NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF QUAKER ROAD AND ROUTE 251. SEVERAL TREES WERE DOWNED ALONG THE HILLSIDE WEST OF ROUTE 251, INTO ROUTE 251, AND ON THE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ROUTE 251 AND QUAKER ROAD. THIS INCLUDED AT LEAST THREE UPROOTED SHALLOW-ROOTED TREES AND ONE APPROXIMATELY FIVE FOOT DIAMETER BROKEN AND TWISTED HARDWOOD TREE ALONG WITH MANY DOWNED SMALLER LIMBS THAT INDICATED A CONVERGENT DAMAGE PATH. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PATH OF THIS STORM WAS ALONG OATKA CREEK AND THROUGH THE OATKA CREEK PARK AND IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY RURAL, THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO ANY STRUCTURES. BECAUSE OF THIS, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE USE EXCLUSIVELY TREE DAMAGE INDICATORS TO REACH A CONCLUSION OF AN EF0 STRENGTH AND MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 75 MPH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 17 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 357 PM EDT THU JUL 30 2020 ...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 7/29/2020 TORNADO EVENT... .TORNADO CONFIRMED IN SOUTHERN MONROE COUNTY... START LOCATION...WHEATLAND CENTER IN MONROE COUNTY, NY END LOCATION...SCOTTSVILLE IN MONROE COUNTY, NY DATE...JULY 29, 2020 ESTIMATED TIME...653 PM TO 657 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF0 ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...75 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...100 YARDS PATH LENGTH...4.2 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...43.0019/-77.8222 ENDING LAT/LON...43.0050/-77.7440 * FATALITIES...0 * INJURIES...0 ...SUMMARY... A SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPED OVER GENESEE COUNTY AND TRACKED EAST-SOUTHEAST FROM JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERCHANGE OF THE NEW YORK STATE THRUWAY AND I-490. SCATTERED TREE LIMB DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH STRAIGHT LINE WINDS WAS FOUND ALONG THE OATKA CREEK UPON FOLLOWING THE PATH OF THIS STORM INTO MONROE COUNTY STARTING JUST EAST OF BEULAH ROAD AND CONTINUING THROUGH MUMFORD. DAMAGE BECAME MORE CONCENTRATED UPON CROSSING WHEATLAND CENTER ROAD AND ENTERING OATKA CREEK PARK. A GRASSY FIELD WAS LAID DOWN FLAT IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE STORM MOTION WITH TREE DAMAGE TO THE SOUTH END OF THE FIELD INDICATING ROTATION WITH SEVERAL DAMAGE TREES HAVING BROKEN TO THE NORTHEAST. FARTHER EAST, A PARTIALLY- FLATTENED CORN FIELD WITH TWO SHALLOW-ROOTED UPROOTED TREES ALONG ITS SOUTHERN PERIPHERY WAS COUPLED WITH SEVERAL BROKEN TREES ALONG A HIKING PATH THROUGH OATKA CREEK PARK INDICATING OPPOSING DIRECTIONAL DAMAGE. SCATTERED DAMAGE CONTINUED FARTHER EAST FROM OATKA CREEK PARK ALONG QUAKER ROAD SOUTH OF SCOTTSVILLE. A SECOND MORE CONCENTRATED AREA OF DAMAGE WAS FOUND NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF QUAKER ROAD AND ROUTE 251. SEVERAL TREES WERE DOWNED ALONG THE HILLSIDE WEST OF ROUTE 251, INTO ROUTE 251, AND ON THE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ROUTE 251 AND QUAKER ROAD. THIS INCLUDED AT LEAST THREE UPROOTED SHALLOW-ROOTED TREES AND ONE APPROXIMATELY FIVE FOOT DIAMETER BROKEN AND TWISTED HARDWOOD TREE ALONG WITH MANY DOWNED SMALLER LIMBS THAT INDICATED A CONVERGENT DAMAGE PATH. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PATH OF THIS STORM WAS ALONG OATKA CREEK AND THROUGH THE OATKA CREEK PARK AND IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY RURAL, THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO ANY STRUCTURES. BECAUSE OF THIS, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE USE EXCLUSIVELY TREE DAMAGE INDICATORS TO REACH A CONCLUSION OF AN EF0 STRENGTH AND MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 75 MPH. Wow, this really happened...interesting! Delta you missed out man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, vortmax said: Wow, this really happened...interesting! Delta you missed out man!! Un****ing believable. I firmly believe I would have intercepted and got photos of this tornado if I hadn’t been recovering from surgery. I know that area extremely well. This will likely be the best chance I’ll ever get living here and I slept through it. So incredibly disappointed. It was the only nap I took all week too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, DeltaT13 said: Un****ing believable. I firmly believe I would have intercepted and got photos of this tornado if I hadn’t been recovering from surgery. I know that area extremely well. This will likely be the best chance I’ll ever get living here and I slept through it. So incredibly disappointed. It was the only nap I took all week too. Not your fault. There wasn't even a slight risk for severe. That thing had some crazy rotation for 15-20 minutes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 2:19 PM, winter_rules said: I know it’s not really applicable coming from the tropics, but imagine that track up the coast in the winter.... It's the last day if July, nowhere near peak hurricane season and I think this is the 8th or 9th named storm with this being the 4th (potentially) to hit the states? It's 2020 so I'm guessing we should be on the verge of the all time strongest hurricane on record to hit the US??? Man I'm almost afraid to ask what else....i won't finish it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_rules Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Thinksnow18 said: It's the last day if July, nowhere near peak hurricane season and I think this is the 8th or 9th named storm with this being the 4th (potentially) to hit the states? It's 2020 so I'm guessing we should be on the verge of the all time strongest hurricane on record to hit the US??? Man I'm almost afraid to ask what else....i won't finish it... Is there any evidence (either way) that multiple early storms reduce the chance of a larger storm(s) later? I could see early storms releasing some of the latent heat energy from the water, but it wouldn’t shock me if the duration and relative size of a few storms might not have much effect, if any, on the overall energy stored in the Atlantic/Gulf. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, winter_rules said: Is there any evidence (either way) that multiple early storms reduce the chance of a larger storm(s) later? I could see early storms releasing some of the latent heat energy from the water, but it wouldn’t shock me if the duration and relative size of a few storms might not have much effect, if any, on the overall energy stored in the Atlantic/Gulf. Any thoughts? Not sure, but it's probability now...better chances for a higher total due to the active 1st half. It would be interesting to understand the global patterns (oscillations) which allowed such an active 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I dont usually visit this thread till late October early November when LES kicks off, well not the last handful of years, lol, but I think they are grossly underestimating this Hurricane because she's about to explode as she exits the big Island of the Bahamas and she heads to Nassau. The water up the whole coast is just stupid warm, something we haven't seen in some time, I'd have to imagine but I could be wrong. I'm not a big Tropical Storm fan but this yr looks to be a big season so I will frequentthis thread especiallythe next few days. We are already on I with a long way to go this season lets just hope its a harbinger of things to come this Winter season!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 The 50s last night felt GREAT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, CNY-LES FREAK said: I dont usually visit this thread till late October early November when LES kicks off, well not the last handful of years, lol, but I think they are grossly underestimating this Hurricane because she's about to explode as she exits the big Island of the Bahamas and she heads to Nassau. The water up the whole coast is just stupid warm, something we haven't seen in some time, I'd have to imagine but I could be wrong. I'm not a big Tropical Storm fan but this yr looks to be a big season so I will frequentthis thread especiallythe next few days. We are already on I with a long way to go this season lets just hope its a harbinger of things to come this Winter season! Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk There is quite a bit of shear so I don't expect it to get too strong. It's also moving very quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: There is quite a bit of shear so I don't expect it to get too strong. It's also moving very quickly. I don’t think it makes it above a low end cat 2 if that. There’s a ton of dry air all around it and as you said some pretty strong SW shear keeping everything from wrapping around the center symmetrically. The eyewall keeps going back and forth between open and closed and until it can close permanently and convection can sustain and expand around it (which is hard to do with the strong shear) it’s not going to strengthen much. I think it’s best chance to strengthen is actually in between Florida and the Carolinas if it can avoid riding inland along Florida. SST are just as warm there as near the Bahamas but shear will decrease and as it approaches NC or so it will begin interacting the the trough to the west and the SW flow from the low level jet will likely enhance the winds as it gets picked up and scooted very quickly through the Mid Atlantic into New England. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Toasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Toasty Amazing. Looks like a week or so of near normal temps coming up, then back to a big torch? Global op runs seem to be showing that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo Bumble said: Amazing. Looks like a week or so of near normal temps coming up, then back to a big torch? Global op runs seem to be showing that anyway. I'd say average to slightly above average for August so far. Average High/Low decreases every day this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 There is quite a bit of shear so I don't expect it to get too strong. It's also moving very quickly.Yeah, I noticed that much later as I usually don't even look at models during Tropical Season but I did afterwards and noticed lots not going to good for Isaias but that could change at any moment. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Shes flaring up along the coast of FLand most guidance now keeps her offshore until landfall in the Carolinas somewhere. If she can stay over the Stupid warm waters of the Gulf Stream then I can see her starting to gain some strength so we'll see. Convection is certainly starting to blossom throughout the core but thats been the ebb and flow of this system so far.Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 First time hearing about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Lake_Huron_cyclone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Tornado watch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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