ErinInTheSky Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Whelp. The non-COVID hospital ship is now a COVID ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 We are easily going to have the worst response to this pandemic of any country. We are still in the exponential growth phase too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherCCB Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, supernovasky said: We are easily going to have the worst response to this pandemic of any country. We are still in the exponential growth phase too. Yeah , it is really sad. Didn’t have to be this way. Poor planning and downplaying of the threat, put us behind the 8 ball. After all if you knew a cat 5 was offshore heading you ur way , you wouldn’t wait till it was making landfall to prepare. Would you ? Just hard to believe we r in this bad of a situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv_poor Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 9 hours ago, gunny23 said: Our final payment is due in a couple of weeks. I'm hoping they let us postpone to next April. Based on the trajectory of Covid 19 there is no way we would feel safe travelling through Quayaquil for some time. Especially since it is a humanitarian crises there on top of the virus. Really sad what is happening.... Who are you cruising with? We are w Huagan on the Camila. Sorry if this is banter... We use Tauck for all of our vacations. Sailing on the Isabela II. Going with 5 or 6 couples we met on prior Tauck vacations. Just checked airfaires hoping for deals for FirstClass/Business class. WE have Iceland in July which may be the safest country in the world due to their extensive testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhotdog Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I’m not saying we have handled this situation well at all. But if you really think those numbers for China are accurate you all are crazy. There is no doubt that there cases and deaths as of now are much higher then ours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 This is why we will have the worst response of any country: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltimorewx Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Park getting pretty busy on this nice Sunday. Mostly people just playing with their kids and runners but monitoring. My new job tittle is “social ambassador”. So that if people try to gather I can inform them of the social distancing guidelines. I’d prefer skull cracker myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltimorewx Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, losetoa6 said: Social Ambassador...sounds important More importantly...How's the Women's yoga club looking Mostly families here today but yesterday not bad lol, drove the ATV for a closer look to make sure it wasn’t 10 ppl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 This is the model that the government is using. It doesn't think herd immunity is going to do much to dampen a second wave. This supports what I've been saying: Better preparedness will help us contain and mitigate a second wave, not natural immunity. By the end of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease and thus measures to avoid a second wave of the pandemic prior to vaccine availability will be necessary. Maintaining some of the social distancing measures could be supplemented or replaced by nation-wide efforts such as mass screening, contact tracing, and selective quarantine. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs?fbclid=IwAR2hG2_tdcNqbDzUvIVtnB3VqkxQ7qTQJYBMcrg-0J9PH0kBP5PqtsdTVTg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydreb Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said: This is the model that the government is using. It doesn't think herd immunity is going to do much to dampen a second wave. This supports what I've been saying: Better preparedness will help us contain and mitigate a second wave, not natural immunity. By the end of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease and thus measures to avoid a second wave of the pandemic prior to vaccine availability will be necessary. Maintaining some of the social distancing measures could be supplemented or replaced by nation-wide efforts such as mass screening, contact tracing, and selective quarantine. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs?fbclid=IwAR2hG2_tdcNqbDzUvIVtnB3VqkxQ7qTQJYBMcrg-0J9PH0kBP5PqtsdTVTg Yes, Dr. Fauci has been saying this at pretty much every briefing this week (except for the one he missed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltimorewx Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-transmitted-via-aerosolized-feces-study-warns suggesting to flush with toilet lid down. However, my girlfriend has me in the habit of flushing in soon as it plops cuz I’m so “rank” so we good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Surgeon General thinks next week will be the worst week . Very gruesome they are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, Baltimorewx said: https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-transmitted-via-aerosolized-feces-study-warns suggesting to flush with toilet lid down. However, my girlfriend has me in the habit of flushing in soon as it plops cuz I’m so “rank” so we good. And I'm laughing at "Aerosolized feces" Hahaha That's a new one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: One of my extended family members is recovering and was released from the hospital! Well praise God for that! Happy to hear! (Was just about to ask you how the other two were doing!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Maestrobjwa said: And I'm laughing at "Aerosolized feces" Hahaha That's a new one... 1 hour ago, Baltimorewx said: https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-transmitted-via-aerosolized-feces-study-warns suggesting to flush with toilet lid down. However, my girlfriend has me in the habit of flushing in soon as it plops cuz I’m so “rank” so we good. Besides Political we now have to abide by Scatological Correctness. Be wary when on the go, As always..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Had to go to Lowe’s. They were only letting limited people in and had to wait. Good policy cause people are still out and about. Planting flowers. Lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Maestrobjwa said: And I'm laughing at "Aerosolized feces" Hahaha That's a new one... Kinda brings a new meaning when people say, "shit's really flying!", doesn't it?? (or, "that shit won't fly!" or "hitting the fan" or... Well you get the idea!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Surgeon General thinks next week will be the worst week . Very gruesome they are saying. In general yeah. Esp for NY, which is the biggest hot spot. That is what the modeling has been depicting. Other places, the peak(daily deaths) will be later, but not as extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-peak-dc-maryland-virginia/2020/04/03/0636bc6c-75cf-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html Quote D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser announced Friday that the city projects that 1 in 7 residents of the city will contract the novel coronavirus, with the nation’s capital seeing a peak in hospitalized patients around late June and early July. The D.C. government thinks the IHME model overestimates the impact of social distancing on reducing new infections. According to city officials, the CHIME model takes into account social distancing measures from the closure of nonessential businesses and schools and the ban on mass gatherings — but it also calculates that many people will not comply. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/wharf-fish-market-packed-on-a-saturday-social-distancing-not-being-practiced/65-334f226a-e56a-45d9-82f3-e6ad129a60fe Yup. Dumb asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-peak-dc-maryland-virginia/2020/04/03/0636bc6c-75cf-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/wharf-fish-market-packed-on-a-saturday-social-distancing-not-being-practiced/65-334f226a-e56a-45d9-82f3-e6ad129a60fe Yup. Dumb asses. Already covering her arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-peak-dc-maryland-virginia/2020/04/03/0636bc6c-75cf-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/wharf-fish-market-packed-on-a-saturday-social-distancing-not-being-practiced/65-334f226a-e56a-45d9-82f3-e6ad129a60fe Yup. Dumb asses. I looked over IHME model projected 3% infection rate nation wide and seriously went HUH??? I know the impacts of social distancing are somewhat of an unknown but I really question that number. As is, the 1 out of 7 figure for DC is more in my line of thinking for what we will see in the major cities though I believe even that is low balling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Seems that a tiger in the Bronx Zoo has contracted the virus. 2 other tigers and 2 other lions have developed a dry cough a symptom of the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, showmethesnow said: Seems that a tiger in the Bronx Zoo has contracted the virus. 2 other tigers and 2 other lions have developed a dry cough a symptom of the virus. Yeah I just saw this. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: Yeah I just saw this. Interesting. There were reports of dogs contracting this as well. I know back and forth is possible but is it normal to see a virus be able to jump from 4 different species (bat, dog, lions, humans)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, showmethesnow said: There were reports of dogs contracting this as well. I know back and forth is possible but is it normal to see a virus be able to jump from 4 different species (bat, dog, lions, humans)? Seems bizarre to me. Above my pay grade though. I took biology and zoology in college, and found it very interesting in a fundamental context. Maybe if I had stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: Seems bizarre to me. Above my pay grade though. I took biology and zoology in college, and found it very interesting in a fundamental context. Maybe if I had stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn but I've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Coronaviruses are endemic is most mammals. No surprise it can survive in dogs and lions but not really cause a major infection, per se. Many viruses can live in other hosts and not be infectious. That's how the whole wet market virus spreading thing even happens. A bat-based coronavirus spread to another host, possibly a pangolin, and then to humans. It was seriously infectious in humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Have the stat heads here been looking at some of the research coming out now that says the infected count is far higher than we have estimated and therefore the infected fatality ratio (IFR) is much lower? Don't listen to the case fatality ratio numbers on TV, they are all bogus. Self-selection bias is rampant because only the sickest people go to the hospital and get tested. The hospitalization rate numbers are also bogus because of this: of the sickest patients showing up in the ER, only about ~10% are admitted. That doesn't mean 10% of everyone who gets the virus will need a hospital bed... it appears 50% or more may have no symptoms at all. In a few years when COVID-19 is a seasonal disease like the flu or cold we will wonder why we crashed the world economy over it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Coronaviruses are endemic is most mammals. No surprise it can survive in dogs and lions but not really cause a major infection, per se. Many viruses can live in other hosts and not be infectious. That's how the whole wet market virus spreading thing even happens. A bat-based coronavirus spread to another host, possibly a pangolin, and then to humans. It was seriously infectious in humans. But is it typical/normal for one specific Corona Virus to be able to infect over multiple species that we are seeing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Have the stat heads here been looking at some of the research coming out now that says the infected count is far higher than we have estimated and therefore the infected fatality ratio (IFR) is much lower? Don't listen to the case fatality ratio numbers on TV, they are all bogus. Self-selection bias is rampant because only the sickest people go to the hospital and get tested. The hospitalization rate numbers are also bogus because of this: of the sickest patients showing up in the ER, only about ~10% are admitted. That doesn't mean 10% of everyone who gets the virus will need a hospital bed... it appears 50% or more may have no symptoms at all. In a few years when COVID-19 is a seasonal disease like the flu or cold we will wonder why we crashed the world economy over it. Been saying this for a couple of weeks now (higher infection rate/lower mortality rate). With how we were seeing the virus spread it made more sense then the lower figures for infection they were throwing out. Think they will also find that we were at the community spread level a couple of weeks sooner then what they believe now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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