PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Inverted_Trough said: I go by data. You go by feelings. LOL The data very clearly says kids don't die from COVID-19 or really even become seriously ill. Flu is way deadlier for them. But yeah, data from the communist dictatorships in China and Vietnam is a better source. Yup, zero deaths in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: LOL The data very clearly says kids don't die from COVID-19 or really even become seriously ill. Flu is way deadlier for them. But yeah, data from the communist dictatorships in China and Vietnam is a better source. Yup, zero deaths in Vietnam. If the data doesn't fit your argument, question its source. Classic tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 LOL and mappy was so worried about my posts disrupting the calm vibe here but now we have forky and trix dropping racism all over the place and not a peep. I hope the pearl-clutchers here who are aghast at my posts hammer that report button when they read that crap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said: If the data doesn't fit your argument, question its source. Classic tactic. Data from Vietnam that there are zero deaths actually perfectly fits my narrative that this disease is not as bad as we think... but I can clearly see their data is total BS. Vietnam is a poor country that would not have been able to hold deaths at zero. That doesn't make any sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, PhineasC said: In the huge span of this global disease, kids don't die from COVID-19 AT ALL. Yes, there are reports of a tiny, tiny handful of deaths in kids with a positive COVID test. I know you are a super pedantic and specific person and to you this means "kids die from this virus too!" Most others here know exactly what I meant. Way to move goal posts from "young people" (which I'd take to imply anyone under about 30) to "kids" (which would imply minors only). And also just state things out of hand as fact while accusing others of being pedantic. Whatever. I don't think anyone argues who is more at risk and what age groups. But even younger people, it may not be so negligible a number as thought. And it's still higher than "just the flu". Plenty of younger people have other health or immune issues that can make them more at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 North Korea has reported zero deaths as well, so I guess this guy wants us to follow their approach too. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, Always in Zugzwang said: Way to move goal posts from "young people" (which I'd take to imply anyone under about 30) to "kids" (which would imply minors only). And also just state things out of hand as fact while accusing others of being pedantic. Whatever. I don't think anyone argues who is more at risk and what age groups. But even younger people, it may not be so negligible a number as thought. And it's still higher than "just the flu". Plenty of younger people have other health or immune issues that can make them more at risk. Young people being under 20. They don't die from COVID-19 at all (yes there are outliers like in any natural system). Flu is way deadlier. I have no idea why the myth of young people dying from this disease is still so prevalent. I guess because otherwise the death narrative starts to fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: Data from Vietnam that there are zero deaths actually perfectly fits my narrative that this disease is not as bad as we think... but I can clearly see their data is total BS. Vietnam is a poor country that would not have been able to reduce deaths to zero. That doesn't make any sense at all. The CDC believes their data. If an armchair epidemiologist on a weather discussion forum doesn't want to believe it, that's their prerogative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, Inverted_Trough said: The CDC believes their data. If an armchair epidemiologist on a weather discussion forum doesn't want to believe it, that's their prerogative. Where do you get that the CDC "believed them"? Also, the WHO at one time "believed" China that human-to-human transmission was impossible and about a week ago appeared to "believe" that there was no evidence that catching COVID-19 and recovering conveys immunity, but OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I can only imagine the self-righteous anger that will bubble forth from the #StayAtHome crowd when we see that the states that opened early are fine. It's going to take a long time for people to heal mentally. Brace yourselves for it, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Always in Zugzwang said: Way to move goal posts from "young people" (which I'd take to imply anyone under about 30) to "kids" (which would imply minors only). And also just state things out of hand as fact while accusing others of being pedantic. Whatever. I don't think anyone argues who is more at risk and what age groups. But even younger people, it may not be so negligible a number as thought. And it's still higher than "just the flu". Plenty of younger people have other health or immune issues that can make them more at risk. And where is your source for "And it's still higher than "just the flu" " for people under 20? I haven't seen that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Come on, this goes way beyond that. You work in a sector that is not as affected by the shutdowns (and may be doing better because of them). Most are not so lucky. I don't disagree I've been very fortunate in that regard. I don't think it would change my thoughts on the best course of action to get out of this though. I am as equally sympathetic with those that are suffering economically as I am with the families that have lost loved ones. I don't think there's a right answer on this but here we are. What's the best way back that limits death and allows businesses to actually have a fighting chance to come back successfully. I'm ok that you and I disagree on this it's life and this is a tough time for a lot of people. I hope it snows soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said: I don't disagree I've been very fortunate in that regard. I don't think it would change my thoughts on the best course of action to get out of this though. I am as equally sympathetic with those that are suffering economically as I am with the families that have lost loved ones. I don't think there's a right answer on this but here we are. What's the best way back that limits death and allows businesses to actually have a fighting chance to come back successfully. I'm ok that you and I disagree on this it's life and this is a tough time for a lot of people. I hope it snows soon. No disagreement here. We will all have a different view of this complex cost/benefit analysis. There is no easy answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, RDM said: That's not only profoundly wrong, it's ignorant on multiple levels. You've obviously never lived outside the US or traveled much internationally as well. Forkys like a kid with a blow torch looking for a gas leak. As always ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Yeoman said: Our UPS and FedEx drivers both haven’t worn masks since day one. Most I see on the streets don’t either.. I haven’t asked why but hard to believe either company has not made them readily available. Fedex has but they are just little bs mask. Cheapest possible of course. We wear them in the facility but once we're on the road we don't need them. I put mine on only when inside buildings. I tell people to stay away from me when I'm in residential neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Who's the clown? Could a moderator please remove the troll. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, dailylurker said: Who's the clown? Could a moderator please remove the troll. Thanks Which one? There are several trolls on this thread today. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 LOL gotta love the fear porn from random Twitter people. ”it literally boils you alive !!! Ahhh stay home or die!!” unless you work for Amazon then please keep delivering me cat food! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Not sure I’m seeing much redeeming value in this thread existing anymore 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Not sure I’m seeing much redeeming value in this thread existing anymoreIMO, the sole benefit is that largely prevents any spillover of this discussion into other threads. This thread was only ever meant for thinly (or not) veiled partisan bickering. Nobody should be coming here for news or good takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: I can only imagine the self-righteous anger that will bubble forth from the #StayAtHome crowd when we see that the states that opened early are fine. It's going to take a long time for people to heal mentally. Brace yourselves for it, guys. This is largely a dynamic that exists in your head and is the part of your schtick that gets tiresome. Everyone is rooting for covid to go away. If Georgia does great, I’ll be very encouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: Not sure I’m seeing much redeeming value in this thread existing anymore I tend to agree, it’s time to give it the old yeller treatment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, DCTeacherman said: This is largely a dynamic that exists in your head and is the part of your schtick that gets tiresome. Everyone is rooting for covid to go away. If Georgia does great, I’ll be very encouraged. Some people are actively rooting for the “red states” opening early to have massive outbreaks. They are predicting it with gusto, in fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Well, today was the first weekend of loosened restrictions in 30+ states. I was told to expect lines out the door of people who, after a month of being oppressed by their tyrannical government, finally exercising their right to get a massage. Instead, I see lots of people just sitting at the beach. My 401k does not approve of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: Not sure I’m seeing much redeeming value in this thread existing anymore Was it the overt racism that put you over the edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 there’s a political forum.agreed! that would also work if we wanted to kill this thread. I avoid that thread because I don’t like knowing political leanings when we are all just weather nerds at heart. This thread hasn’t helped that logic though, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, Inverted_Trough said: Well, today was the first weekend of loosened restrictions in 30+ states. I was told to expect lines out the door of people who, after a month of being oppressed by their tyrannical government, finally exercising their right to get a massage. Instead, I see lots of people just sitting at the beach. My 401k does not approve of this. The 401k thing is a red herring. Most people are worried about paying bills and buying food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: Some people are actively rooting for the “red states” opening early to have massive outbreaks. They are predicting it with gusto, in fact. Yeah, maybe some totally unrepresentative sample of jackasses on Twitter, but no one in this forum, so why do you have to constantly beat that drum? Are you one of those culture warriors who had a fit of rage and hysterics when the Indian was taken off the butter box? It seems like you really like this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said: Yeah, maybe some totally unrepresentative sample of jackasses on Twitter, but no one in this forum, so why do you have to constantly beat that drum? Are you one of those culture warriors who had a fit of rage and hysterics when the Indian was taken off the butter box? It seems like you really like this stuff. Why are you sassing me and not the people posting racist crap and fear porn here today? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 It's been about 2 weeks since I posed the question.....when does our phase 1 start? And, I still dont have a good handle on it. Ball park is prob sometime next week, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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