Yeoman Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, NorthArlington101 said: Happy to share! I'll sum the whole thing up here because it may be useful to others. Essentially, UVA sent the students a survey to test our enthusiasm (and willingness to pay) for three different scenarios in the Fall A semi-regular semester, starting on-time, where we have seven-week intensive classes along with a regular semester. Classes that require in-persona activities (labs, discussions) might be on the back-end of the semester. Larger classes are likely online. A month delay, then hopefully we return to normal. We start online and on-time and progress to normalcy as soon as possible. They also tossed out some extra ideas, including Weekend classes to allow for more space No classes with 50+ (a placeholder number) people meeting in-person in order to allow smaller lectures to meet in larger spaces, hence meeting social distancing requirements Classes until 10:00pm to allow for more space They also emphasized that if we return, students will likely need to wear masks and abide by social distancing restrictions. They asked us if we'd be willing to enforce that rules for ourselves and engage in healthy peer pressure for other students, which I found kind of funny. I'm skeptical we head back, honestly. First-year dorms, where students share bathrooms, hallways, and live in tiny tiny rooms seem light the nightmare scenario for a contagious disease. Our dining halls are literally set up like prisons (Amarak, a prison food contractor, provides our food), and every single class I've ever taken would violate social distancing protocols. I would just drop out.. that's not a college experience I'd want to have anything to do with if I'm shelling out tens of thousands. Amazon is hiring in the meantime, and you don't even need to present a resume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Deaths always lag cases and we have more active cases than ever. This argues for a strong spike in the death rate by June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Yeoman said: I would just drop out.. that's not a college experience I'd want to have anything to do with if I'm shelling out tens of thousands. Amazon is hiring in the meantime, and you don't even need to present a resume! Not sure Amazon is as glorious a place to work as it seems to be. Some horror stories about them even with the appearance of decent pay and benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, mappy said: if you wish to have a reasonable discussion instead of bringing your emotions into it, i'm more than willing to listen. otherwise, your drivel is just drivel cause youre bored and looking for someone to play with. Water just said pushback against the lockdowns is just because "Karen" is mad she can't get a haircut, but here you are lecturing me on post quality again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 you will be ok, phin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, H2O said: Not sure Amazon is as glorious a place to work as it seems to be. Some horror stories about them even with the appearance of decent pay and benefits I know.. hard to beat sitting at home collecting checks while others struggle to put food on the table and pay the rent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said: Yeah he pictures everyone on here are like wealthy attorneys just vacationing from home laughing about the lockdowns maniacally Just like Dr. Evil!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Water just said pushback against the lockdowns is just because "Karen" is mad she can't get a haircut, but here you are lecturing me on post quality again... ill talk to him. did you want to have a reasonable discussion, or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yeoman said: I know.. hard to beat sitting at home collecting checks while others struggle to put food on the table and pay the rent. hes been going to work daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Yeoman said: I know.. hard to beat sitting at home collecting checks while others struggle to put food on the table and pay the rent. Why are you going this way with your reply? What does college have to do with welfare? You posted about dropping out when maybe its better to stay, get a degree or at least pursue a career in something better than delivery for Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 A majority of the people who lost their jobs, and are supposedly starving and foraging for food, support the restrictions too. Phin is a rebel without a cause. Sad! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 The startling part of that NY Times article to me was this: The projections, based on modeling by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and pulled together in chart form by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now. Are we expected to even have this level of testing capability a month from now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, H2O said: Why are you going this way with your reply? What does college have to do with welfare? You posted about dropping out when maybe its better to stay, get a degree or at least pursue a career in something better than delivery for Amazon. Where did I say that was going to be his career? IMO, I would wait until the environment allowed for a normal college experience which would be commensurate with the money you're shelling out for the experience. Amazon is offering jobs to millions who are out of work with good pay and benefits, but for some reason you had to piss on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Why are you going this way with your reply? What does college have to do with welfare? You posted about dropping out when maybe its better to stay, get a degree or at least pursue a career in something better than delivery for Amazon. It’s gonna be interesting to see what some of my peers do. I love college, but I also want my degree and want to find a job after I graduate. Not sure I’ll delay myself for a semester+, but many of my friends are seriously considering taking a gap semester or year. Online sucks for the college experience, but it was actually pretty good for my GPA. Professors are more lenient when we are online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Inverted_Trough said: A majority of the people who lost their jobs, and are supposedly starving and foraging for food, support the restrictions too. Phin is a rebel without a cause. Sad! phin's arguments would go a lot further if he posted with less emotion and didn't act like an asshole all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Yeoman said: Where did I say that was going to be his career? IMO, I would wait until the environment allowed for a normal college experience which would be commensurate with the money you're shelling out for the experience. Amazon is offering jobs to millions who are out of work with good pay and benefits, but for some reason you had to piss on that? I think his argument is Amazon was a bad example for you to list since they've been having so many issues with PPE and the like. Now, how hard is contact tracing? Lord knows the country needs thousands of them to make calls. That'd be the first place I'd go to if I found myself without a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, WVclimo said: The startling part of that NY Times article to me was this: The projections, based on modeling by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and pulled together in chart form by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now. Are we expected to even have this level of testing capability a month from now ? There are many reports of empty testing sites across the country, but the models probably don't take that into account. They assume more capacity equals more positive results, and there are likely north of 20-30 million cases in the US already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said: A majority of the people who lost their jobs, and are supposedly starving and foraging for food, support the restrictions too. Phin is a rebel without a cause. Sad! They just received stimulus checks and have had to make only one mortgage payment. Now the support for lockdowns will be dropping as people exhaust their savings accounts and the gubmint cheese cuts off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Yeoman said: Where did I say that was going to be his career? IMO, I would wait until the environment allowed for a normal college experience which would be commensurate with the money you're shelling out for the experience. Amazon is offering jobs to millions who are out of work with good pay and benefits, but for some reason you had to piss on that? If someone who needs a job wants to work for Amazon then they can. Who am i to stop them? Buts whats wrong with someone going to college to try and find a job at a place thats open and related to their diploma? And for saying Amazon might not be the best place to work for you sure as shit needed to go on a tangent about people just loving welfare over working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, mappy said: I think his argument is Amazon was a bad example for you to list since they've been having so many issues with PPE and the like. Now, how hard is contact tracing? Lord knows the country needs thousands of them to make calls. That'd be the first place I'd go to if I found myself without a job. The PPE is def an issue. But also the hours and pressure they have on employees to hit benchmarks for processing orders and deliveries. In the end, a job is a job and if needed to pay bills people will do what they feel they need to do. There wasn't a need to take it the way he did by simply saying Amazon isn't a nirvana workplace. The shit plant isn't either and I def don't promote working for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I have heard of many people taking on a bunch of "gig" jobs like delivering groceries, stocking shelves, etc. to piece together a living. Unfortunately, unemployment stats are never good at capturing those who technically have a job, but are basically one tiny step above homelessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, PhineasC said: There are many reports of empty testing sites across the country, but the models probably don't take that into account. They assume more capacity equals more positive results, and there are likely north of 20-30 million cases in the US already. The past 10 days or so, the number of tests has been significantly higher than before. But in the US it looks we are still testing, on average, about 250,000 people a day in that time. Overall, about 1 in 6 of all the tests performed since Day 1 has resulted in a confirmed case. To achieve 200,000 new cases a day, we may need to test 1,200,000 a day to locate them. That seems a long way from where we are now, but I hope we can expand our testing capability that rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, WVclimo said: The past 10 days or so, the number of tests has been significantly higher than before. But in the US it looks we are still testing, on average, about 250,000 people a day in that time. Overall, about 1 in 6 of all the tests performed since Day 1 has resulted in a confirmed case. To achieve 200,000 new cases a day, we may need to test 1,200,000 a day to locate them. That seems a long way from where we are now, but I hope we can expand our testing capability that fast. I'm just saying we may have the capacity now in terms of numbers of tests, but people just aren't getting the tests because they are all still optional. I have read all over the place that the tests sites set up in areas just as CVS parking lots are not busy at all. I'm sure some are in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: I'm just saying we may have the capacity now in terms of numbers of tests, but people just aren't getting the tests because they are all still optional. I have read all over the place that the tests sites set up in areas just as CVS parking lots are not busy at all. I'm sure some are in some places. I think thats on the states though, right? I know in MD you can't just drive up and get a test, you have to get a docs referral and have an appointment. That's not going to cut it if we want to fully reopen. There needs to be the ability to test everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Unscientific, stupid fear porn: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: Unscientific, stupid fear porn: should i hide this? you were complaining a lot yesterday over this kind of stuff being posted. not sure when i am supposed to take my job seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, mappy said: I think thats on the states though, right? I know in MD you can't just drive up and get a test, you have to get a docs referral and have an appointment. That's not going to cut it if we want to fully reopen. There needs to be the ability to test everyone. Yes, Hogan needs to fix that. I have an employee whose wife has COVID and he can't even get a test from his doctor because he has no symptoms. His wife is fine, she has mild loss of taste but nothing else. I thought Hogan had fixed that long ago but I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, mappy said: should i hide this? you were complaining a lot yesterday over this kind of stuff being posted. not sure when i am supposed to take my job seriously? I figured it was OK and should just join the club. I will stay away from racist posts, though. Only forky can get away with that because "he's just joking." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: Yes, Hogan needs to fix that. I have an employee whose wife has COVID and he can't even get a test from his doctor because he has no symptoms. His wife is fine, she has mild loss of taste but nothing else. I thought Hogan had fixed that long ago but I guess not. I agree. That's a clear example where your employee's husband should get tested if his wife has a confirmed case. symptoms or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, PhineasC said: I figured it was OK and should just join the club. I will stay away from racist posts, though. Only forky can get away with that because "he's just joking." forky's posts were all removed. so feel free to post racist stuff and watch yours disappear too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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