aldie 22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 So sitting at almost 47k on Thursday April 23rd and it seems possible we are close to 50k after Friday. So only another 10k deaths until the end of May? I don't know folks...I think the gfs is toying with us again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 11:08 AM, leesburg 04 said: So sitting at almost 47k on Thursday April 23rd and it seems possible we are close to 50k after Friday. So only another 10k deaths until the end of May? I don't know folks...I think the gfs is toying with us again Expand My guess is will be at 60k by the end of April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 The IHME thinks we’ll have a precipitous drop in deaths. Doesn’t seem realistic based on what’s happened in Europe. The MIT line looks more realistic. The two shades of grey are the reported deaths, the lighter shade includes probable deaths in nyc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 here’s a good thread on the next couple of years. Basically the summary is we need to copy Taiwan/Singapore/South Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 anyone who thinks we will be all hunkydoory by fall is fooling themselves. don't expect "normal" any time soon, if this year at all. masks in public for a good while, social distance while in public, cancelled mass gathering events (concerts, sports). its going to take time before things are truly back to normal. be patient people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:00 PM, mappy said: anyone who thinks we will be all hunkydoory by fall is fooling themselves. don't expect "normal" any time soon, if this year at all. masks in public for a good while, social distance while in public, cancelled mass gathering events (concerts, sports). its going to take time before things are truly back to normal. be patient people. Expand And that's assuming we can test, contact trace, and isolate. Without that things will be even less normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I have a nurse friend who works at Inova and she says they are testing so many people who obviously have covid symptoms yet test negative. She said they treat them positive regardless so the numbers are probably low fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:14 PM, leesburg 04 said: I have a nurse friend who works at Inova and she says they are testing so many people who obviously have covid symptoms yet test negative. She said they treat them positive regardless so the numbers are probably low fwiw Expand I hope between the false negative tests and the asymptomatic folks, that way more people have been exposed. It would be great if the herd could be exposed and the hospitals not overrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:19 PM, nw baltimore wx said: I hope between the false negative tests and the asymptomatic folks, that way more people have been exposed. It would be great if the herd could be exposed and the hospitals not overrun. Expand I still say this...let's just assume 30 million people have been exposed...that only leaves another 300 million to go. That's why in my opinion the whole Sweden thing isn't an apples to apples comparison. All my opinions though I certainly can be wrong but I'm not in a decision making role in all of this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydreb Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:00 PM, mappy said: anyone who thinks we will be all hunkydoory by fall is fooling themselves. don't expect "normal" any time soon, if this year at all. masks in public for a good while, social distance while in public, cancelled mass gathering events (concerts, sports). its going to take time before things are truly back to normal. be patient people. Expand I’m starting to think that there’s not going to be school in the fall either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:36 PM, jaydreb said: I’m starting to think that there’s not going to be school in the fall either. Expand uggggh. lets hope thats not the case. On 4/23/2020 at 12:38 PM, losetoa6 said: Mappy...I personally don't know anyone that thinks things will be back to" hunkydoory" by the fall . I think we all realize that ...just sayin Expand i didn't say that anyone did. i can make general statements, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:36 PM, jaydreb said: I’m starting to think that there’s not going to be school in the fall either. Expand Colorado is already entertaining that prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydreb Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:53 PM, H2O said: Colorado is already entertaining that prospect Expand At the very least they better get planning whatever changes they need to make, whether it be use of masks, social distancing, staggered attendance, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGolfBro Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 12:36 PM, wxtrix said: you have presented zero data for your assertions. Expand Please show the data that the lockdowns have worked. And please describe how the socioeconomic consequences are meaningless in your support of the lockdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:00 PM, SnowGolfBro said: Please show the data that the lockdowns have worked. And please describe how the socioeconomic consequences are meaningless in your support of the lockdowns. Expand Just look at the case counts before/after lockdowns in any state or country. There Is exponential growth until the lockdown. It’s very obvious. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:10 PM, DCTeacherman said: Just look at the case counts before/after lockdowns in any state or country. There Is exponential growth until the lockdown. It’s very obvious. Expand By lockdowns, what is meant is social distancing, hand washings, and masks, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:46 PM, Wonderdog said: By lockdowns, what is meant is social distancing, hand washings, and masks, correct? Expand lockdowns = stay-at-home orders, closing non-essential businesses, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:46 PM, Wonderdog said: By lockdowns, what is meant is social distancing, hand washings, and masks, correct? Expand I'm talking about school closures, stay at home, restaurants closed, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:46 PM, Wonderdog said: By lockdowns, what is meant is social distancing, hand washings, and masks, correct? Expand That term has come to mean(unfortunately) stay at home orders. There are no true lock downs in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 i didnt see this posted, but Hogan will be discussing his plan to begin reopening MD, tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:48 PM, DCTeacherman said: I'm talking about school closures, stay at home, restaurants closed, etc. Expand So social distancing. There are no lockdowns. Words matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:51 PM, Wonderdog said: So social distancing. There are no lockdowns. Words matter. Expand As I said above, that word seems to be now accepted to be synonymous with the stay at home orders. I am a stickler on that stuff too, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:51 PM, Wonderdog said: So social distancing. There are no lockdowns. Words matter. Expand I was just using the term lockdown as a blanket since I was referring to some countries that did actual lockdowns and some countries like ours did "almost lockdowns". IMO the words actually in this case truly don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:51 PM, Wonderdog said: So social distancing. There are no lockdowns. Words matter. Expand does it really matter though? in the end we are all being told to stay home, non-essentials closed. this is a silly argument tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGolfBro Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 1:51 PM, Wonderdog said: So social distancing. There are no lockdowns. Words matter. Expand Social distancing would be everything is open and we all are responsible for avoiding handshakes and physical contact where possible. “Lockdown” is i own a restaurant, i want to open but am not allowed. Or i have kids i want to take them to the playground, but am not allowed. But i can use a different term if it is creating confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Another big increase... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 2:15 PM, ThePhotoGuy said: Another big increase... Expand And even worse that was only on ~ 3,500 tests so % positive increased a little, 27%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-hogan-recovery-plan-reopening-state-business-20200423-eoizjh2q5zexpavybyf7yofoju-story.html Quote Hogan said he hopes to reopen the economy in phases, classifying businesses as high, medium and low risk and making decisions based on factors specific to each space. He said the degree of physical distance in a business, coupled with how much touch it involves for patrons and staff, could contribute to the risk level qualifications. Expand Quote Hogan also stressed that the state’s recovery roadmap hinges on four pillars: Ramping up Maryland’s testing capacity, instituting contract tracing, increasing the supply of personal protective gear and readying hospitals for a surge in patients that could potential overload the system. Expand Quote Hogan said he will wait to make decisions about the economy until he sees 14 consecutive days of decreased cases. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SnowGolfBro Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 2:28 PM, mappy said: Expand Smart move Governor Hogan. This one never made sense to me in the first place. If you walk the golf course u never have to get within 20 feet of anybody. Let alone 6 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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