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4 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Hopefully the antibodies work but what's good if someone has it the 2nd time ?

The good is that the 2nd time isn't as severe. Just like getting the flu vaccine and then contracting the flu virus. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it, it mitigates the symptoms.

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2 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

What a tool the Florida governor is ..

I guess students will teach themselves..

He's also wrong that no one under the age of 25 had died..

Why is he a "tool"? He's not too far off. This is CLEARY much more deadly for post-school aged kids. And if you dig into the data for deaths under 25 or even 45, there are significant percentages of an existing condition. Now is it prudent to send kids back to school this current year? I'd say no, let them finish this year home-schooled and restart in Sept.

Data as of April 10, 2020

Age group COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Pneumonia Deaths
(J12.0–J18.9)3
Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19
(J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3
Influenza Deaths
(J09–J11)4
Population5
All ages 4,984 511,424 89 36,423 2,341 4,541 327,167,434
Under 1 year 0 2,727 65 19 0 9 3,848,208
1–4 years 1 552 76 27 1 26 15,962,067
5–14 years 1 809 73 26 0 34 41,075,169
15–24 years 6 4,638 81 87 2 35 42,970,800
25–34 years 46 9,624 86 257 21 106 45,697,774
35–44 years 129 13,847 89 538 44 160 41,277,888
45–54 years 291 26,652 80 1,416 119 375 41,631,699
55–64 years 624 64,579 86 4,247 269 816 42,272,636
65–74 years 1,085 100,368 91 7,397 456 976 30,492,316
75–84 years 1,372 126,612 92 10,139 691 1,025 15,394,374
85 years and over 1,429 161,016 88 12,270 738 979 6,544,503
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What about faculty?

"Experts" warn that kids can be carriers, what about parents, grand parents? They have to go home to somebody...

His reasoning is that kids aren't dying...

Kids spread germs like crazy, 1 kid gets it the entire school does..Then what happens? We shut down the school again to be sanitized lol

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1 minute ago, wolfie09 said:

Kids spread germs like crazy, 1 kid gets it the entire school does..Then what happens? We shut down the school again to be sanitized lol

I totally agree. The bigger issue is the kids spreading it to their parents & grandparents. If we can get those 5-minute tests widely available by the summer, that would be a huge step in identifying the hot spots.

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2 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

Yesterday was the highest 24 hour death toll so far..

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USA has surpassed Italy for most deaths...

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Amazing but sad statistics. It may not be appropriate to think this way, however, my instinct tells me you could increase the China numbers by a factor of 20 or more and still not be right. As always .....

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5 hours ago, rclab said:

Amazing but sad statistics. It may not be appropriate to think this way, however, my instinct tells me you could increase the China numbers by a factor of 20 or more and still not be right. As always .....

100% that China's #'s are deliberately low. The Chinese government will pay heavily for the havoc they've caused - watch and see how the world turns on them after this is over. I hope their government fails and their people prosper.

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2 hours ago, vortmax said:

100% that China's #'s are deliberately low. The Chinese government will pay heavily for the havoc they've caused - watch and see how the world turns on them after this is over. I hope their government fails and their people prosper.

The mantra of the dictatorial/authoritarian leaderships. The Will Of The Few For The Suffering Of The Many’ As always ....

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On 4/8/2020 at 5:24 PM, tim123 said:

Obama if you like your dr you can keep your dr. Lmao

Did you lose your doctor? I didn’t. I don’t know a single person who did. Obamacare has proven pretty successful and very popular. It slowed the increase in medical costs, it decreased the number of uninsured and it added sorely needed protections. 
Your guy has tried for years to dismantle it without any framework for a replacement (hint: there isn’t one). Thankfully he’s been unsuccessful. 
 

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1 minute ago, rochesterdave said:

Did you lose your doctor? I didn’t. I don’t know a single person who did. Obamacare has proven pretty successful and very popular. It slowed the increase in medical costs, it decreased the number of uninsured and it added sorely needed protections. 
Your guy has tried for years to dismantle it without any framework for a replacement (hint: there isn’t one). Thankfully he’s been unsuccessful. 
 

I would wager quite a bit Trump gets reelected so brace yourself for another 4 years. :(

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"Essential businesses" will have to supply personal protective equipment for their employees...

Cuomo also said an executive order would be signed Sunday to mandate those deemed as essential businesses to provide worker with face masks or coverings. 

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1 hour ago, CNY_WX said:

What are you basing this on?  I’ve heard from people that voted for Trump last time that think they made a mistake.

I don't think I can vote for someone like this. You also cannot trust the polls as Trump defied all polls that showed Hilary up by 10+ pts a week before voting. The general idea I get is Trump is going to win in a landslide and I agree with them. I hate the democractic party for turning on Bernie, that alone makes me want to switch sides.

And this is too weird for me.

 

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12 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I don't think I can vote for someone like this. You also cannot trust the polls as Trump defied all polls that showed Hilary up by 10+ pts a week before voting. The general idea I get is Trump is going to win in a landslide and I agree with them. I hate the democractic party for turning on Bernie, that alone makes me want to switch sides.

And this is too weird for me.

 

A majority of Democrats want to nominate New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo for president instead of Joe Biden, according to poll results shared exclusively with The Post.

The national poll found 56 percent of Democrats prefer Cuomo, with 44 percent wanting to stick with presumptive nominee Biden — a 12-point margin well outside the 4.8 percent margin of error for the Democratic sample.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/democrats-want-to-drop-joe-biden-for-andrew-cuomo-poll-finds/

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22 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Deaths and new cases down in New York today.

Definitley a good thing but proceed with caution. If you look back the last 3 Sunday’s in a row have a drop off in cases and deaths because some states don’t report until Monday or Tuesday and that’s why you’ll sometime see a surge then too...

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Albion twp still 1 of 6 communities that haven't had a confirmed case in Oswego county...

Social distancing is nothing new around here lol

It all comes down to population density, Oswego county for example has a pop density of 120 people per sq mile and only 42 cases out of 120,000 total population..

Erie county for example has a population density of almost 1000 per square mile and nearing 1600 cases out of 920,000 people.. Obviously they have a much higher infection rate..

NYC for example has 26k per square mile which is self explanatory why it's so bad down there..

 

 

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1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I don't think I can vote for someone like this. You also cannot trust the polls as Trump defied all polls that showed Hilary up by 10+ pts a week before voting. The general idea I get is Trump is going to win in a landslide and I agree with them. I hate the democractic party for turning on Bernie, that alone makes me want to switch sides.

And this is too weird for me.

 

I can’t see how someone with an approval rating around 45% can win in a landslide.  I could see him pulling this out of his ass again but a lot will depend on turnout and whether Bernie supporters would cut off their noses to spite their faces and either vote for Trump or not vote at all.  I don’t know if you’re  a Bernie Bro but just stop and think if you want another 4 years of a president that’s an embarrassment to the office.

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