MJO812 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Anyone have links to the Tyson fight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Anyone have links to the Tyson fight ? Oops, my bad. I thought you said Tyson bite... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Anyone have links to the Tyson fight ? You will get a lot of pop-ups at first trying to get it to play lol But once you do it will be fine the rest of the way.. https://www.strikeout.nu/mike-tyson-vs-roy-jones-jr-stream-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: You will get a lot of pop-ups at first trying to get it to play lol But once you do it will be fine the rest of the way.. https://www.strikeout.nu/mike-tyson-vs-roy-jones-jr-stream-1 What link works for you ? None works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Another link http://crackstreams.com/boxing-streams/watch-triller-tyson-vs-rjj/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 23 hours ago, wxtrix said: so you're just another liar. you have no intention of getting covid but you want other people to be exposed to it and possibly die while you hide from the virus. Heres the deal... there is no doubt that the corona virus is real.. it is a novel virus and as such it is proving to be a tough go.. especially for people in the end stages of life. That being said, I would argue that we are way closer to herd immunity than we think (irregardless of what the nonsense serological surveys are saying) The numbers just dont make sense to me.. the reproductive rate of this virus is around 1.2 (even with social distancing)...I think this means that everyone person who gets the virus infects 1.2 people. Given that we have 200,000 confirmed cases a day.. even with a crude exponential calculation, over 10 million people should be infected after just a couple of days 200,000 -> 400,000 -> 800,000 -> 1,600,000 -> 3,200,000 -> 6,400,000 -> 12,800,000, and so on and so forth. And thats starting out with the total number of infections being yesterdays total positives.. but in reality.. we should have several million active cases.. And all of this is just with confirmed laboratory positive... who knows what the real numbers are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Luke_Mages said: They better find somewhere else...I get what they’re trying to accomplish but that’s kind of crazy. None of this would have been a problem if they would have just had training camp. They could have gotten all of this out of the way in August. Ed Orgeron said it best back in September.. "most of our players have caught it".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, 40westwx said: Heres the deal... there is no doubt that the corona virus is real.. it is a novel virus and as such it is proving to be a tough go.. especially for people in the end stages of life. That being said, I would argue that we are way closer to herd immunity than we think (irregardless of what the nonsense serological surveys are saying) The numbers just dont make sense to me.. the reproductive rate of this virus is around 1.2 (even with social distancing)...I think this means that everyone person who gets the virus infects 1.2 people. Given that we have 200,000 confirmed cases a day.. even with a crude exponential calculation, over 10 million people should be infected after just a couple of days 200,000 -> 400,000 -> 800,000 -> 1,600,000 -> 3,200,000 -> 6,400,000 -> 12,800,000, and so on and so forth. And thats starting out with the total number of infections being yesterdays total positives.. but in reality.. we should have several million active cases.. And all of this is just with confirmed laboratory positive... who knows what the real numbers are. The actual infections in the US are likely over 100 million. You cannot go based on confirmed cases as most are asymptomatic or minor symptoms. The CDC just said likely infections are 8 times confirmed infections. Between vaccines and herd immunity, this thing is toast come summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 37 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: The actual infections in the US are likely over 100 million. You cannot go based on confirmed cases as most are asymptomatic or minor symptoms. The CDC just said likely infections are 8 times confirmed infections. Between vaccines and herd immunity, this thing is toast come summer. Precisely.. so we get about 30% of the nation even with all of this social distancing.. With no social distancing we would have hit the 70% sweet spot in about 1month back in March .. if schools and colleges were allowed to remain.. the vast majority of those cases would have been asymptomatic.. healthy population would build immunity and provide protection for those who dont do as well with this.. this would have saved lives. Instead, the virus meanders its way through the elderly population.. one nursing home/ palliative care facility at a time.. Additionally, if hospital protocols would have been sensible (like they are today), tens of thousands of lives would have been saved by not putting people in medically induced comas. Fear has driven this from the beginning. As a result, countless lives have been lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, 40westwx said: Precisely.. so we get about 30% of the nation even with all of this social distancing.. With no social distancing we would have hit the 70% sweet spot in about 1month back in March .. if schools and colleges were allowed to remain.. the vast majority of those cases would have been asymptomatic.. healthy population would build immunity and provide protection for those who dont do as well with this.. this would have saved lives. Instead, the virus meanders its way through the elderly population.. one nursing home/ palliative care facility at a time.. Additionally, if hospital protocols would have been sensible (like they are today), tens of thousands of lives would have been saved by not putting people in medically induced comas. Fear has driven this from the beginning. As a result, countless lives have been lost. Thank god you are not in the medical field..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Thank god you are not in the medical field..... It is not just me.. their are many from within the medical community and in academia feel the same way but we dont hear about this because of the "cancel culture". Doctors wont speak up because using the word "herd immunity" is about as bad as getting caught saying the N word as a politician. But there are a few.. in fact those that are at the absolute top of their field.. that are protected by Tenure and the reputation that proceeds them, that have the courage to speak up.. to name a few: Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, 40westwx said: It is not just me.. their are many from within the medical community and in academia feel the same way but we dont hear about this because of the "cancel culture". Doctors wont speak up because using the word "herd immunity" is about as bad as getting caught saying the N word as a politician. But there are a few.. in fact those that are at the absolute top of their field.. that are protected by Tenure and the reputation that proceeds them, that have the courage to speak up.. to name a few: A professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations. ......and there are countless other medical professionals and professors who disagree with herd immunity as a method for controlling the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, 40westwx said: It is not just me.. their are many from within the medical community and in academia feel the same way but we dont hear about this because of the "cancel culture". Doctors wont speak up because using the word "herd immunity" is about as bad as getting caught saying the N word as a politician. But there are a few.. in fact those that are at the absolute top of their field.. that are protected by Tenure and the reputation that proceeds them, that have the courage to speak up.. to name a few: Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations. Dr. Fauci Says a COVID-19 Herd Immunity Strategy Is ‘Total Nonsense’ | SELF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, wxtrix said: all three of them are quacks and are behind the Great Barrington Declaration which has no basis in science or ethics. not sure why the mods are allowing this complete garbage to be repeatedly posted on the wx-side. Its called the "Upstate NY Coronavirus and Banter" thread.. so I would think that this would include opinions from both sides. If it is just a place to post the daily positivity rate and pretend that kids dont spread corona virus in schools.. than maybe I should be be cancelled/ censored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 down in my part of the woods.. the only thing your allowed to say is stuff that is almost delusional.. like "kids dont spread corona virus in school" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, wxtrix said: all three of them are quacks and are behind the Great Barrington Declaration which has no basis in science or ethics. not sure why the mods are allowing this complete garbage to be repeatedly posted on the wx-side. Banter thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ......and there are countless other medical professionals and professors who disagree with herd immunity as a method for controlling the virus. There are only two long term solutions. Herd immunity and eradication. If the vaccines are as good as advertised then eradication is possible. But in general flattening the curve is all about allowing the virus to spread at a slower rate, not stopping it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said: There are only two long term solutions. Herd immunity and eradication. If the vaccines are as good as advertised then eradication is possible. But in general flattening the curve is all about allowing the virus to spread at a slower rate, not stopping it completely. The vaccine facilitates/ accelerates herd immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 In regards to the Orchard Park gym owner... An Orchard Park gym owner whose defiance of Covid-19 restrictions has earned him national attention has been accused of responding to a customer requesting a refund with a racist, profanity-laced attack. Robert Dinero, owner of Athletes Unleashed, in July told the woman he would refund the $395 she was owed but not before calling her a "filthy, foreign, Third-World country piece of (expletive)" in his reply, which was punctuated with two other curse words https://buffalonews.com/news/local/gym-owner-who-defied-covid-19-rules-slammed-over-racist-profane-email/article_bd9b4ab2-31a9-11eb-b6f6-5ba96c79750d.html. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Todays numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Extrapolating those numbers of 25k cases in Erie county and 920k population, 200k in Erie county have had the virus or 21.7% of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 NYS hospitalizations. I think we see this go up as we enter the 2nd wave until the 2nd week of January. Hopefully by then we see a downward trend with some semblance of herd immunity/vaccines rolling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: In regards to the Orchard Park gym owner... An Orchard Park gym owner whose defiance of Covid-19 restrictions has earned him national attention has been accused of responding to a customer requesting a refund with a racist, profanity-laced attack. Robert Dinero, owner of Athletes Unleashed, in July told the woman he would refund the $395 she was owed but not before calling her a "filthy, foreign, Third-World country piece of (expletive)" in his reply, which was punctuated with two other curse words https://buffalonews.com/news/local/gym-owner-who-defied-covid-19-rules-slammed-over-racist-profane-email/article_bd9b4ab2-31a9-11eb-b6f6-5ba96c79750d.html. I highly doubt that will sway anyone who supports him. Will be interesting to see how the county responds to him saying he will be open for business as usual tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: I highly doubt that will sway anyone who supports him. Will be interesting to see how the county responds to him saying he will be open for business as usual tomorrow. 15k fine and more importantly he lost his Crossfit designation. A pretty huge deal for a crossfit gym. He likely shuts down long term due to this. https://www.wgrz.com/article/money/business/crossfit-ends-affiliation-with-athletes-unleashed-after-email-surfaces/71-5af1e036-b626-4c68-bff6-4e09cf5a1421 " Dinero refuses to pay the fine and had planned to reopen his gym Monday, November 30 but he said after speaking with his legal team decided against it. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying MXZ Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: NYS hospitalizations. I think we see this go up as we enter the 2nd wave until the 2nd week of January. Hopefully by then we see a downward trend with some semblance of herd immunity/vaccines rolling out. This is 100% what any shutdowns should be based on, in the local areas. Keep the hospitals functioning and protecting the vulnerable. When the hospitals are getting in trouble slow things down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It's spreading quickly around here. Quite a few people I know have confirmed infections. I didn't know anyone with it all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Saw a report that Erie County is suspending all elective surgeries effective end of this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: It's spreading quickly around here. Quite a few people I know have confirmed infections. I didn't know anyone with it all summer. Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Some New York state and Erie county data. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 12:57 PM, 40westwx said: Precisely.. so we get about 30% of the nation even with all of this social distancing.. With no social distancing we would have hit the 70% sweet spot in about 1month back in March .. if schools and colleges were allowed to remain.. the vast majority of those cases would have been asymptomatic.. healthy population would build immunity and provide protection for those who dont do as well with this.. this would have saved lives. Instead, the virus meanders its way through the elderly population.. one nursing home/ palliative care facility at a time.. Additionally, if hospital protocols would have been sensible (like they are today), tens of thousands of lives would have been saved by not putting people in medically induced comas. Fear has driven this from the beginning. As a result, countless lives have been lost. oh boy. we've got a herd immunity guy here. Sweden tried your approach. They hoped that they would get herd immunity during the spring. While the rest of the world would experience a second wave, Sweden would avoid it, or so they thought. That hasn't happened. They are nowhere near herd immunity even though they tried to get there. Now they've backtracked and are issuing restrictions that are more stringent than what we have here. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-24/sweden-says-it-sees-no-signs-herd-immunity-is-stopping-the-virus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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