Buckeyes_Suck Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: No stimulus check until next year now. At this rate the spread will become geometric and we'll have herd immunity before Biden takes office and we wont need another stimulus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Stimulus and unemployment are for the past not the future IMHO.. That's why they continue to talk about"retroactive".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 All those months of businesses losing money is not just going to go away.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 More research is needed to find out how long antibodies even last.. The share of people in Britain with detectable antibodies for the new coronavirus sharply declined over a period of three months, according to new data published Tuesday—but experts say that shouldn't necessarily spark concerns about people's immunity to Covid-19. Here's why. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/11/02/coronavirus-antibodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Stimulus and unemployment are for the past not the future IMHO.. That's why they continue to talk about"retroactive".. With Trump losing there is 0% chance anything gets done until Biden is in office and even then Mcconnell says he's going to be difficult with a Biden admin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Biden just needs to keep it close in AZ.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Trump needs nearly 60% of the remaining votes to win Arizona, latest "trend"averaging around 53%.. Only a matter of time before trump files a lawsuit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Nevada will update within the hour, 50k, Clark county.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 They updated 30k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just going to vent here for a minute, because this is a relatively sane place even if we don’t all have the same political views. I keep seeing on social media the same nonsensical claim that “the US is a republic, not a democracy”. Typically this claim is made by someone who seems to think the Democratic Party has no legitimate claim on power. “Republic” and “Democracy” are NOT mutually exclusive categories. A republic is simply a form of government that is not a monarchy, meaning power fundamentally lies with people or their nominal representatives instead of a central figure. And there are multiple kinds of democracies, including direct democracies (where the people rule themselves by voting directly on laws) and representative democracies (in which the people elect a smaller body of representatives who vote on laws on behalf of the people they represent). Most republics are representative democracies. The USA is one of them. Making a claim that “we are a republic, not a democracy” is beyond ignorant. It seems like another way of saying that the Republican Party is legitimate and the Democratic Party is not. Of course, the Republican Party didn’t even exist for most of the first century of the United States, and the Democratic Party actually formed about 50 years after independence out of something called the “Democratic-Republican Party.” Both of the current major parties have at one time or another held just about every political position possible. The Republicans even had a large faction of socialists just a century ago. And we all know about the support of Democrats for overt white supremacy for decades. Our worst problems are coming from a sense that the other side has no legitimate right to govern. That nonsense has to stop or there will be a body count, and that will simply make things worse. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, WNash said: Just going to vent here for a minute, because this is a relatively sane place even if we don’t all have the same political views. I keep seeing on social media the same nonsensical claim that “the US is a republic, not a democracy”. Typically this claim is made by someone who seems to think the Democratic Party has no legitimate claim on power. “Republic” and “Democracy” are NOT mutually exclusive categories. A republic is simply a form of government that is not a monarchy, meaning power fundamentally lies with people or their nominal representatives instead of a central figure. And there are multiple kinds of democracies, including direct democracies (where the people rule themselves by voting directly on laws) and representative democracies (in which the people elect a smaller body of representatives who vote on laws on behalf of the people they represent). Most republics are representative democracies. The USA is one of them. Making a claim that “we are a republic, not a democracy” is beyond ignorant. It seems like another way of saying that the Republican Party is legitimate and the Democratic Party is not. Of course, the Republican Party didn’t even exist for most of the first century of the United States, and the Democratic Party actually formed about 50 years after independence out of something called the “Democratic-Republican Party.” Both of the current major parties have at one time or another held just about every political position possible. The Republicans even had a large faction of socialists just a century ago. And we all know about the support of Democrats for overt white supremacy for decades. Our worst problems are coming from a sense that the other side has no legitimate right to govern. That nonsense has to stop or there will be a body count, and that will simply make things worse. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 I know it's beating a dead horse but trump definitely lost a few thousand votes in Erie for asking who wants to be in Erie lol It wouldn't of mattered either way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 We know who the sith is the next 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 As you can see I'm a huge star wars fan. Anyone watching Mandalorian, it's so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Arizona 43,779 Biden lead 239,589 votes left Georgia 1,560 Biden Lead 4,517 votes left Nevada 20,352 Biden lead 101,779 votes left Penn 12,390 Biden lead 126,757 votes left Trump on twitter asking about the 8k military votes in Georgia. Penn and Nevada are going to be blowouts, so much so that I doubt recounts even take place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 They sent out 8k, doesn't mean they returned all 8k lol The military has until this evening to get them in..So we may see by tonight.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Not assigning blame to anybody in particular, but if mail-in balloting is going to become more and more popular (granted this election is probably going to end up being a bit of a fluke in terms of the volume of mail-in ballots), something ought to be done to speed up the process. Start processing earlier, etc. Whatever states like Florida and some others did seems to have worked pretty efficiently. We shouldn't have to wait 3+ days to declare an official winner even though it is obvious where this is going. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Not assigning blame to anybody in particular, but if mail-in balloting is going to become more and more popular (granted this election is probably going to end up being a bit of a fluke in terms of the volume of mail-in ballots), something ought to be done to speed up the process. Start processing earlier, etc. Whatever states like Florida and some others did seems to have worked pretty efficiently. We shouldn't have to wait 3+ days to declare an official winner even though it is obvious where this is going. I agree. I know in Penn and Nevada they were not able to count mail ins until election day. Other states like Florida and Texas can do it ahead of time. There should be a universal method of counting to not give the illusion of an election being fixed. Everyone should be able to start counting a few days prior. Nevada just said they will not be finished until Nov 12th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 A "big" pick up for Joe Biden in GA.. I wonder if they are starting to count these military/overseas ballots.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: I agree. I know in Penn and Nevada they were not able to count mail ins until election day. Other states like Florida and Texas can do it ahead of time. There should be a universal method of counting to not give the illusion of an election being fixed. Everyone should be able to start counting a few days prior. Nevada just said they will not be finished until Nov 12th. At least in MI and PA, the legislature rejected proposals to allow counting of mail/absentee ballots prior to the closing of the polls, which dovetailed nicely with Trump's pre-election claims about fraudulent mail ballots (a criticism which selectively didn't apply to states where he expected to do well with mail ballots, like FL). This slow process is what the legislatures of those two states wanted to see. NV on the other hand allows ballots with a postmark on or before Election Day to be counted, so while they have the capacity to process far more ballots than they are receiving, ballots are still arriving due to the deliberate slowdown of USPS sorting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 NC is also taken its sweet time, just like Florida they have the ability to start the process ahead of time, yet they still have nearly 200k outstanding ballots and just updated for the first time in a day or two.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: A "big" pick up for Joe Biden in GA.. I wonder if they are starting to count these military/overseas ballots.. Polls of enlisted personnel showed a fairly close split between Biden and Trump (ranging between Biden +5 and Trump +5). It's pretty clear that most pollsters have no idea how to accurately poll Trump voters, probably because they don't know any Trump voters, but there is also some evidence that a small number of Trump voters attempted to monkeywrench the polls by lying. If I were to guess, I'd say Trump leads enlisted personnel by around 5% and officers by 20-30%. Enlisted personnel outnumber officers by a little less than 20 to 1, and about 1/3 of all service personnel have historically voted. Civilian voter participation was very high this year, but military voting would have to be far higher than that for Trump to accumulate enough military votes to change any results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Joe Biden just secured 77% of ballots in Allegheny county, what's interesting is about half were military votes, 5200 total reported... Biden lead has increased to around 20k.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 @DeltaT13 you were right. About 1/5 diagnoses https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/06/dr-scott-gottlieb-daily-us-covid-cases-are-at-least-half-a-million.html? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 At this pace, don’t even worry about a vaccine. 500k new cases a day will get us to near herd immunity threshold in less then 6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, wolfie09 said: Joe Biden just secured 77% of ballots in Allegheny county, what's interesting is about half were military votes, 5200 total reported... Biden lead has increased to around 20k.. Latest update 7300-1875 Biden, a good chunk military..That's it with the military votes..I guess it paid off for Biden to continually bring up"suckers and losers" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Joe Biden added a few thousand overnight in GA.. Could be some overseas and military votes in there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 About 20k left in GA, provisional and overseas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 For all the talk of fraud in Philadelphia, trump is actually doing 4 points better than in 2016 lol It's one of only two counties trump has done better on in PA.. It's the rural areas that have hurt him, he's still winning them but by less of a margin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 In order to have a recount in PA the margin has to be 1/2 a percentage point or less.. Right now he's leading by 0.5% and expected to continue to grow.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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