wolfie09 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 I think it's more about the equipment Luke..If the equipment is sanitized frequently like shopping carts at a grocery store then I don't see much difference imo.. There is no evidence that the virus can be spread through sweat. However, the virus can be transmitted in places like gyms by other means - through respiratory droplets that pass from person to person or that land on surfaces that multiple people touch, such as gym equipment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 At the local price chopper you can't put your items on the conveyor until it's sanitized.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I went to TJ Max yesterday and it was slammed with people. From my last few months at the gym with everyone wearing mask, 33% capacity limits, wiping everything down, the air filtration systems, and the spray guns every 10-15 minutes I can say I definitely felt safer in the gyms than I did at walmart/target/etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 If you honestly think that most gyms are being properly cleaned and sanitized you are kidding yourself. And many gym goers do not take the time to properly clean off equipment after use. Add in that many people will continue to go to a gym even while sick. Gyms are teeming with bacteria under the best of circumstances. Gyms lack the staff and money do properly sanitize and clean a gym unless it is a very small gym. Most gyms close between 8 -10 at night then open at 4-6 the following morning. The gym closes and the employees are out the door. Do you think that most gyms are doing a thorough cleaning overnight??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentrich Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: I went to TJ Max yesterday and it was slammed with people. From my last few months at the gym with everyone wearing mask, 33% capacity limits, wiping everything down, the air filtration systems, and the spray guns every 10-15 minutes I can say I definitely felt safer in the gyms than I did at walmart/target/etc... You need to stop spreading false information. Please do not be like Trump, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 How Dirty is Your Gym Equipment? (menshealth.com) 5 Filthy Things To Never Touch at the Gym, Via an Employee (menshealth.com) How Dirty Is Gym Equipment? - AskMen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: If you honestly think that most gyms are being properly cleaned and sanitized you are kidding yourself. And many gym goers do not take the time to properly clean off equipment after use. Add in that many people will continue to go to a gym even while sick. Gyms are teeming with bacteria under the best of circumstances. Gyms lack the staff and money do properly sanitize and clean a gym unless it is a very small gym. Most gyms close between 8 -10 at night then open at 4-6 the following morning. The gym closes and the employees are out the door. Do you think that most gyms are doing a thorough cleaning overnight??? There were very few if any contact traced cases to gyms in Western New York. That's the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: There were very few if any contact traced cases to gyms in Western New York. That's the facts. My point is and remains most gyms are filthy regardless of the Covid-19 situation. I can't tell you how many times over the years that I have seen people working out at gyms while obviously sick. Some people lack the common sense do the right thing. Many do not even clean the equipment that they use. And pools,showers,locker rooms and saunas are rarely if ever cleaned properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: I think it's more about the equipment Luke..If the equipment is sanitized frequently like shopping carts at a grocery store then I don't see much difference imo.. There is no evidence that the virus can be spread through sweat. However, the virus can be transmitted in places like gyms by other means - through respiratory droplets that pass from person to person or that land on surfaces that multiple people touch, such as gym equipment This same thing happens in a grocery store. Gotta find that perfectly ripe melon... When I had a gym membership I always wiped down the equip when I was done. Recently when I was in MO for work the local gyms were open and everyone was wiping down before and after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: At the local price chopper you can't put your items on the conveyor until it's sanitized.. Stores in Ma are not doing that. I have noticed grocery stores becoming more and more lax with their protocols. The local Wal Mart is still doing a head count for capacity. And I have noticed employees using a device similar to a power washer to sanitize shopping carts. I went to a Best Buy yesterday and I have to say their protocols are pretty good. They are strict with store capacity and everyone must wear a mask while inside. If someone doesn't have a mask they are given one to wear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, wxtrix said: there is a separate subforum for political discussion. .........and you also wrote that numerous times in both of the subforums....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 9:58 AM, wxtrix said: you vote for politicians who refuse to help out people like him. your feelings are meaningless when your actions are harmful. Shouldn't your post be in some political sub forum?????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloWeather Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Positivity rate going down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloWeather Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 This is pretty cool data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brentrich Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Now you see why we need nationwide lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 hours ago, wolfie09 said: At the local price chopper you can't put your items on the conveyor until it's sanitized.. Same here and it's ridiculously stupid. I can see someone thinking of that idea last March, and it being reasonable. We know much more now. You aren't getting Covid from the grocery conveyer belt. What we need is for people to wear masks. It makes a big difference. And every time you hit people with stupid mindless rules like cleansing the grocery conveyer, they get more fed up and feel more harassed and get less likely to do the things that actually matter. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Just finished making an anitpasto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Just finished making an anitpasto The farther away you get from the metropolitan areas, the fewer people know what antipasto is. Where I grew up in PA, Lancaster, this was not something found anywhere. But, where my dad grew up in Hazleton, it is everywhere. Hazleton has lots of connections to NYC and has a very large Italian population. I find cultural influences and how they spread to different parts of the country very interesting. Looking at your picture brings back memories of my dad ordering it whenever he went home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Luke_Mages said: Proof of said filthiness? The dirtiest gyms I’ve been in are still way cleaner than any Walmart or Tops. Hey now! I’d put the cleanliness of my store up against any similar retailer! We’re disinfecting carts in between every shopper. Have a clerk on daily who does nothing but disinfect high touch points surfaces. We do a full clean down of the registers every 2 hours. Wegmans tried the register cleaning in between every shopper but it was a nightmare for them. It just caused a cluster **** line to the back of the store. They did away with that practice. It’s not feasible. Spread in a full sized grocery store or Target, Walmart is minimal to none. If it was we would be dropping like flies. I’ve had 2 workers test positive so far in wave 2. Contact tracing found both were infected in settings outside of work. Our health screening protocol is very strict. Anyone who has had contact with another positive person or claims 2 or more of the noted symptoms is sent home with pay. If corona was coming home on your loaf of bread from the store we would have all been infected by now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Hey now! I’d put the cleanliness of my store up against any similar retailer! We’re disinfecting carts in between every shopper. Have a clerk on daily who does nothing but disinfect high touch points surfaces. We do a full clean down of the registers every 2 hours. Wegmans tried the register cleaning in between every shopper but it was a nightmare for them. It just caused a cluster **** line to the back of the store. They did away with that practice. It’s not feasible. Spread in a full sized grocery store or Target, Walmart is minimal to none. If it was we would be dropping like flies. I’ve had 2 workers test positive so far in wave 2. Contact tracing found both were infected in settings outside of work. Our health screening protocol is very strict. Anyone who has had contact with another positive person or claims 2 or more of the noted symptoms is sent home with pay. If corona was coming home on your loaf of bread from the store we would have all been infected by now. What Tops do you work at? I worked for them for 4 years when I was a teenager doing everything from cashier, to ez scan, to carts/emptying the bottle machines, to the bakery. I met some good people while I worked there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 17 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: There were very few if any contact traced cases to gyms in Western New York. That's the facts. More likely to catch staph or gonorrhea at the gym... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 When there's a high volume of cases...its really difficult to do effective contract tracing. So its hard to say where the most likely source is of the majority of infections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 7 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Hey now! I’d put the cleanliness of my store up against any similar retailer! We’re disinfecting carts in between every shopper. Have a clerk on daily who does nothing but disinfect high touch points surfaces. We do a full clean down of the registers every 2 hours. Wegmans tried the register cleaning in between every shopper but it was a nightmare for them. It just caused a cluster **** line to the back of the store. They did away with that practice. It’s not feasible. Spread in a full sized grocery store or Target, Walmart is minimal to none. If it was we would be dropping like flies. I’ve had 2 workers test positive so far in wave 2. Contact tracing found both were infected in settings outside of work. Our health screening protocol is very strict. Anyone who has had contact with another positive person or claims 2 or more of the noted symptoms is sent home with pay. If corona was coming home on your loaf of bread from the store we would have all been infected by now. Sorry didn’t mean to pick on Tops, was just top of mind as an example of large stores allowed to be open while gyms were forced to shutdown. I agree that stores aren’t spreading corona, and gyms aren’t either. Seems like it’s being in close contact for a period of time that’s the trick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: When there's a high volume of cases...its really difficult to do effective contract tracing. So its hard to say where the most likely source is of the majority of infections. lol.. contact tracing.. you do realize that everyone in world has come in contact with you within only a few degrees of separation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40westwx Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Thank you Supreme Court for maintaining our constitution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, 40westwx said: Thank you Supreme Court for maintaining our constitution. Hopefully they known down more restrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, 40westwx said: lol.. contact tracing.. you do realize that everyone in world has come in contact with you within only a few degrees of separation? Stop polluting the board with your nuttiness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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