Buckeyes_Suck Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, WNash said: The approach that would do the least harm long-term would be to continue the pause and give researchers and doctors time to develop effective protocols (and ideally a vaccine). But that would require literal redistribution of wealth, and the rich people who call the shots would rather see the people who do the work have their health ruined than give up some of their own hoard. So much wrong with this. No guarantee on a viable vaccine or treatment. Didn’t the swine flu vaccine developed in the 70s cause brain damage? It’s not the rich people in charge who are simply saying reopen, it’s the decline in R0 combined with pressure from their constituents. Lastly, redistribute the wealth??? Do you suggest a socialist takeover? Even if that were to happen none of the money you’re after would stay here. Almost half of Hong Kong’s wealth expatriated before it was handed over to China. The same would happen here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Dr Fauci testying on the senate floor soon. Sources saying that he will let the country know that more people will die and get sick if this country opens up too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-coronavirus-antibody-study-results-less-than-one-percent-of-participants-test-positive/amp/ MLB antibody study. Positive rate was 0.7 percent in mid April. 70 percent asymptomatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Russia is now the 2nd most COVID-19 infected country after United States https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-52629284 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Wuhan will test its entire population of 11 million after reporting new infections for the first time since its lockdown was lifted https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-11/china-s-wuhan-sees-first-new-virus-cases-since-lockdown-lifted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Dr. Fauci says football is perfect environment to spread coronavirus https://www.newsweek.com/nfl-coronavirus-fauci-says-football-perfect-scenario-spread-1503110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Unfortunately I feel like this is going to be commonplace for quite awhile, possibly until a vaccine is found. Spain to impose 14-day quarantine for international arrivals https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/spain-coronavirus-quarantine-travelers-intl-scli/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Pelosi to present latest relief bill this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said: Pelosi to present latest relief bill this afternoon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said: Pelosi to present latest relief bill this afternoon. Don't forget who spent millions of additional dollars to have his stupid name put on the stimulus checks!! Dumbass Donny. The Republicans own this mess and always will. (yes I know congress holds the purse strings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, DeltaT13 said: Don't forget who spent millions of additional dollars to have his stupid name put on the stimulus checks!! Dumbass Donny. The Republicans own this mess and always will. (yes I know congress holds the purse strings) It didnt cost millions to have his name added...maybe a $1000 to add one line to a template. Unless you're counting toner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said: It didnt cost millions to have his name added...maybe a $1000 to add one line to a template. Unless you're counting toner I had read (possibly erroneously) that changing print templates was extremely costly at the time because they had to rework millions of checks that were already through the system. I'm guessing those checks don't roll off a Xerox printer using Word in some guys office. There are massive amounts of man hours and money put into every aspect of rolling out those checks, but way to oversimplify it though. The bottomline is that Trump wanted his name on the Check, so how is this solely a democratic issue in your eyes? Trump loves handing out socialist checks and doesnt even realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Don't forget who spent millions of additional dollars to have his stupid name put on the stimulus checks!! Dumbass Donny. The Republicans own this mess and always will. (yes I know congress holds the purse strings) Fake news much? No reference to the "millions of additional dollars" it cost. Strange. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Sunday that it was his idea to put President Trump's name on the stimulus checks being sent to Americans during the coronavirus pandemic. “We did put the president's name on the check,” he said during an appearance on CNN’s “State of The Union,” adding: “That was my idea. He is the president and I think it's a terrific symbol to the American public.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said: It didnt cost millions to have his name added...maybe a $1000 to add one line to a template. Unless you're counting toner You actually make a good point. The toner for millions of reprinted checks isnt zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, vortmax said: Fake news much? No reference to the "millions of additional dollars" it cost. Strange. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Sunday that it was his idea to put President Trump's name on the stimulus checks being sent to Americans during the coronavirus pandemic. “We did put the president's name on the check,” he said during an appearance on CNN’s “State of The Union,” adding: “That was my idea. He is the president and I think it's a terrific symbol to the American public.” Such a loyal shill you are. lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, DeltaT13 said: The bottomline is that Trump wanted his name on the Check, so how is this solely a democratic issue in your eyes? Trump loves handing out socialist checks and doesnt even realize it. Fake news. Also, handing out a stimulus check is much different than universal income - a socialist policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, vortmax said: Fake news. Also, handing out a stimulus check is much different than universal income - a socialist policy. If these checks aren't socialism I don't know what is. You're ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: If these checks aren't socialism I don't know what is. You're ridiculous. Lol, could say that for any stimulus check given out in the past - here's one from the Socialist Pres Bush and Socialist Pres Obama: 2008 Stimulus Checks Stimulus checks were mailed out as follows: Individual taxpayers received up to $600.9 Married couples were eligible for up to $1,200. Households with children received $300 per dependent child. 2009 Stimulus Checks In 2009, the Economic Stimulus Act sent out $14.2 billion in stimulus checks.6 7 The one-time payment went to recipients of Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, veterans, and railroad retirees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Such a loyal shill you are. lolz Insults don't make for productive conversation. Facts and references do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, vortmax said: Insults don't make for productive conversation. Facts and references do. To be honest, I rarely go there, but Trump supporters just enrage me more everyday. He's the worst human ever. Did you see how he treated that Asian reporter yesterday, its beyond insane at this point? Also, the irony here is AMAZING! Trump is the king of insults and name calling...and one of the dumbest, least factual, least scientific people in modern history. The cognitive dissonance with your post is off the charts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 "The Republicans own this mess and always will. " Really? Initial grant was approved under the Obama administration in 2014 for $3.7M funding research of bat coronavirus and some of that went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. What's True A portion of $3.7 million in grants awarded between 2014 and 2019 by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to EcoHealth Alliance, a global environmental health nonprofit organization, helped fund research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. What's False However, not all of that $3.7 million went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and not all of the funding took place under the Obama administration. Approximately $700,000 of the $3.7 million total was approved under Donald Trump. So instead of trying to place blame on a single person or party, let's understand the responsibility falls on many from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, vortmax said: Lol, could say that for any stimulus check given out in the past - here's one from the Socialist Pres Bush and Socialist Pres Obama: 2008 Stimulus Checks Stimulus checks were mailed out as follows: Individual taxpayers received up to $600.9 Married couples were eligible for up to $1,200. Households with children received $300 per dependent child. 2009 Stimulus Checks In 2009, the Economic Stimulus Act sent out $14.2 billion in stimulus checks.6 7 The one-time payment went to recipients of Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, veterans, and railroad retirees. I'm a fan of socialism. I think universal income is absolutely inevitable. Bailouts are fine are when the alternative is the economic collapse. I just find it amazing that Trump Supporters are notoriously anti socialism but certainly have their hands out there right now. Amazing how that works. Side Note - Obamas bailout is Bushs. We all know that. We all know the meltdown happened in Fall 08' and was built on the previous 10 years of bad banking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, DeltaT13 said: Trump is the king of insults and name calling...and one of the dumbest, least factual, least scientific people in modern history. The cognitive dissonance with your post is off the charts Doesn't make you or him right. I'M not hurling insults - YOU and I are having the conversation, not Pres Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, vortmax said: Doesn't make you or him right. I'M not hurling insults - YOU and I are having the conversation, not Pres Trump. I called you a good Shill. Thats just a factual statement. Not an insult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, DeltaT13 said: I'm a fan of socialism. I think universal income is absolutely inevitable. Bailouts are fine are when the alternative is the economic collapse. I just find it amazing that Trump Supporters are notoriously anti socialism but certain have their hands out there right now. Amazing how that works. Side Note - Obamas bailout is Bushs. We all know that. We all know the meltdown happened in Fall 08' and was built on the previous 10 year of bad banking. I'm NOT a fan of Socialism, but there is a distinct difference between a temporary stimulus package and a lasting policy of universal income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: I called you a good Shill. Thats just a factual statement. Not an insult. shill INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN noun an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others. Doesn't sound very nice to me...just sayin'. "Loyal shill" is what you said to be precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Majority of Americans hear socialism and they think Communism like China/North Korea. They don't realize that there are thousands of socialists programs already in this country that they already love. The average American is just really dumb and misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, vortmax said: shill INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN noun an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others. Doesn't sound very nice to me...just sayin'. Trump supporters seem to enjoy trolling the Left. They will defend him even when every bone in their body knows the thing he said was completely ****ed up or stupid. It's exhausting. Why can't they just say, "Boy that was stupid once in awhile". You can still like him, but the 100% all encompassing defense is phony and played out at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Trump supporters seem to enjoy trolling the Left. They will defend him even when every bone in their body knows the thing he said was completely ****ed up or stupid. It's exhausting. Why can't they just say, "Boy that was stupid once in awhile". You can still like him, but the 100% all encompassing defense is phony and played out at this point. I can't stand some of the things he says and I wish he would stop using Twitter, like 4 years ago! With that, I support and respect all US Presidents, regardless of party, as I think ALL Americans should do. I DON'T agree with all US President's policies, however, and that's how I vote - policies over people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, vortmax said: I can't stand some of the things he says and I wish he would stop using Twitter, like 4 years ago! With that, I support and respect all US Presidents, regardless of party, as I think ALL Americans should do. I DON'T agree with all US President's policies, however, and that's how I vote - policies over people. Glad to see we agree on the tweets. He tweeted 125 times yesterday. Or once every 7 minutes for 16 hours straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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